Looking for some advise

[noliver2003]

Whats up. I guess that I am am looking for some advise. I thought I knew what I was doing but it isn't working the way it use to.

A little background: I am a very active guy 23, recently re-dislocated my shoulder and have been told not to lift. I am at the guy 5-6 days week working on the elipticle, bike, and gazell (strength trainer) 1-2 times a day for between 20-50 minutes. I try to change intensity and length. Fairly good diet, around 2500 calories a day, w/ four meals. I am taking lipo 6 x, and drink lots of coffee. In s very demanding school right now. Been at it for about a month now, but am not losing any wieght. Actually gaining pounds. I have cut an inch around the waist. I dont think that I am gaining fat but can not afford the extra pounds. I have large (muscular) thighs and can see the increased definition.

I guess that I am looking for advice on either diet or supplements. Maybe even traing frequency/intensity. Please let me know if you have any ideas.

[biglc0]

Oh come on, (no offense) but just because some guy tells you that you can't lift again doesn't mean it'll happen. I tore my ACL twice, and I came back with a BANG and took D1 scouts by SURPRISE. The best thing I would suggest is to feel it out on your arms. Shoulder raises by far are the best. I'd start around, idk, 15-20 lbs. with a shoulder like that. A dislocated shoulder is pretty serious, but I know so many people who can work through it. You have to get that socket stronger so it doesn't pop out (or whatever it's called someone inform me). Hell, I love that exercise, my shoulders are so big from it they don't even match my body.


Also, you said you eat 4 times a day. I can tell you, eating 6 times a day helps so much. I used to eat NOTHING and walk up to 3 miles a day (annorexia anyone?) and not lose anything. I'm not the expert on this, but someone will help you for sure as they have helped me many a times.

I feel as if you're on a plateau like me. I'm working through it, and I can tell when I wake up and look in the mirror, I see me getting smaller and smaller, and it's awesome.

I think the best way to keep motivation is to go to the member picture forums and just look at the transformations. It's the best thing for me.

Everyone is here for you, as they are here for me, (my topic is unnecessarily long) and they will get you through this. I'm not the best answer, but I would really like to help someone out.


OH! Also, read up on HIIT. It's AWESOME. And, what I do 4/6 days of the week when I run is jog fast enough to where I can keep a conversation.

[RyanLRams]

I think what he meant was he was told not to lift FOR NOW. Ame I right? I dislocated my shoulder once sledding and it SUCKED! Very akward and uncomfortable. I would give it time to heal before I started to stress the allready strained muscles. After awhile, start to do exercies again with a LOW weight and work from there. There is a difference between being hurt and being injured. You chould be able to tell when you lift and adjust accordingly.

What do you four meals look like? I eat 6-7 meals a day and hit about 2200 calories. I need to eat more, but I am eating so clean right now and trying to lean down. The deal with eating all day long is that it keeps your metabolism up and helps your body to burn more fat for energy and fuel. It is prbably not necessary to take Lipo 6 or any other fat burner at this stage. If you are eating right and exercising, as you say, You shouldn't be gaining weight, unless you are a beanpole to begin with I guess, but even then... I was 245 Jan 1 and today I weighed in at 235. I eat all day long (eating oatmeal as I am writing this), and work out hard. I bust my ASS in the gym. I have lost ten pounds of fat, but you can see clearly that I hav gained muscle, so I have probably lost more pounds than my scale shows because the muscle weight added back on. Muscle weighs more than fat btw.

Anyways, here is some information on that HIIT:
HIIT Cardio

[Gill]

Your M.O. doesn't seem clear. Are you trying to cut fat/lose weight or just trying to maintain? If you're taking LIPO6 then I assume you're trying to lose weight. If thats the case, you should drop your daily calorie intake to around 1800-2000 depending on height/weight. By eating more calories than your BMR, you are promoting muscle growth and fat storage... not losing weight.

To lose weight, you have to have a caloric deficit. Even with all the cardio you are doing, you probably aren't exceeding your BMR enough to burn off the extra calories you're eating as part of the 2500.

Hope that makes a little sense. Bottom line, 2500 calories, unless you're a giant, is too much if you're trying to cut.

[MindFreak]

Originally Posted by biglc0

Oh come on, (no offense) but just because some guy tells you that you can't lift again doesn't mean it'll happen. I tore my ACL twice, and I came back with a BANG and took D1 scouts by SURPRISE. The best thing I would suggest is to feel it out on your arms. Shoulder raises by far are the best. I'd start around, idk, 15-20 lbs. with a shoulder like that. A dislocated shoulder is pretty serious, but I know so many people who can work through it. ,.

are you kidding? you're giving this guy advice to workout with a dislocated shoulder after his DOCTOR told him not to? i really hope you were kidding and i really hope he doesnt take this ridiculous advice.

[phat chick]

noliver, i'm sorry to hear about your shoulder dislocation. Perhaps to clear the record, you can elaborate? Are you seeing a physio therapist? Is it a chronic thing?

Quick notes: increase meal frequency so you're spreading the calories more throughout the day. Try 6 meals instead of 4 (not necessarily eat MORE, just less per sitting and more often).

If you're seeing visible changes in the right direction, why are you concerned about the scale? I dont' mean this in a snobby tone at all--- i'm just curious if you need to "make weight" for something?

Lipo 6 is fine, i've used it myself and i've liked it. Drink lots of water too. Make sure your coffee is black, no milk, sugar, creme, etc.

What works doesn't alwasy work forever. That's the frustrating beauty of the human body. Once you hit a plateau then you need to change some factors. You can try shaving off your cals slightly or manipulating your protein-carb-fat ratios. Keep up with the variety of training.

We'll talk about lifting weights when we know more about your situation