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Old 07-28-2006, 08:16 AM
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I've been lurking and searching thru these forums and haven't came up with much..

My overall question is how do you know when you should be cutting?
I guess it might be personal determing which is best for you, but is there some kind of guide or advice someone could give me?

I'vebeen bulking for over a year now but have only been consistently using a "serious" routine for less than a year. My height is around 5'8" and I weigh between 160 and 170lbs (last time I got a BMI I think it indicated that I was just at the threshold of being overweight). I went on a cardio stint like a month ago for a period of weeks where I went out biking every other day - I felt great but decided I didn't want to lose muscle mass and went back to bulking (and suddenly I feel like I can't get on the bike more than once a week).

Either way, I wanna know if I should go all out on cutting or keep bulking? I am pretty muscular (mostly shoulders/back/arms) but I also have moderate love handles and a layer of flab throughout my midsection/lower body.

Any advice, or would pictures be better?
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:26 AM
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By the way-

my diet has been fairly solid as far as bulking goes... I eat a lot but over the last couples years of highschool I've disciplined myself to lots of water (3L/day, only including bottled) and to break up my big meals into smaller ones throughout the day, and eat stuff like oatmeal and eggs more. i also take in lots of proteins (just started using whey too) and eat fairly clean, but i still need to work on cravings and all that..

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Yup you better post a pic then we can give opinions.
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yeah or at least your bodyfat percentage

TBH if you manage a clean bulk that'd lower your BF but it depends how much you already have
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IMO its all up to you. If you think your too fat then cut but if you want more muscle then bulk. do whatever is more important for you right now.
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yo Thanks for the response,

Working on pics.. but the best picture I can paint for ya is a BMI of 25% (according to the net.. tho I realize calipers would be ideal). Looking at myself and my lifestyle I think I'll go ahead with "clean" bulking.. I wanna lose fat, but also get bigger.

I need some direction.. should i continue with my 3-day split and then just eat "clean" as the only change in routine? Like instead of cutting (lots of cardio, reducing my caloric intake), just continue lifting and just clean up my lifestyle? Also, how about cardio.. I've been doing HIIT a couple times a week during offdays..

In fact if anyone has some links with solid information about "clean" bulking and save time that'd be great.

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Working on pics.. but the best picture I can paint for ya is a BMI of 25% (according to the net.. tho I realize calipers would be ideal)
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yo Thanks for the response,

Working on pics.. but the best picture I can paint for ya is a BMI of 25% (according to the net.. tho I realize calipers would be ideal). Looking at myself and my lifestyle I think I'll go ahead with "clean" bulking.. I wanna lose fat, but also get bigger.

I need some direction.. should i continue with my 3-day split and then just eat "clean" as the only change in routine? Like instead of cutting (lots of cardio, reducing my caloric intake), just continue lifting and just clean up my lifestyle? Also, how about cardio.. I've been doing HIIT a couple times a week during offdays..

In fact if anyone has some links with solid information about "clean" bulking and save time that'd be great.

How about at least telling us your height, weight, and general build (skinny, a little chubby, overweight, obese). What kind of shape are you in and how much experience do you have with working out? Cutting versus bulking is a question that most people have when starting out. Either way commit to one or the other, don't sit on the fence. Spend at least 8-12 weeks doing one and then re-assess your goals.
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Alright

I'm 5'8" tall, weigh around 165 lbs, i'm "chubby" with endomorph bodytype.. I'm in relatively good shape though, I have been lifting weights regularly for over a year, but began working out 2 years ago.

Since I've been lifting I've gained significant muscle mass.. but I still have plenty of bodyfat.. I wanna lose the fat, but I would also like to continue gaining muscle (or lose as little muscle as possible in the process). Are there any routines possible? maybe i can keep up with mine now, I just need help perfecting my diet.

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you can lose weight WITHOUT exercising! try the sugar busters diet. i lost 16 pounds on it in 6 weeks.

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o rly
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Old 08-05-2006, 10:33 AM
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If your happy with the way you look, then there is no need to lose weight. If you want a stronger looking stomach then lose some weight.
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yeah diet is the most important factor - however:

cardio and most exercise'll make you generally healthier
you'll need to lift if you want any extra muscle

however, like dog20 said - if you just want to look slimmer then a diet may be just as good...the only problem is that when you get to your target level of fat you'll probs feel good about yourself and want to get more muscle and kick yourself for not lifting
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guess im gonna keep bulking and go on a diet
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Old 08-16-2006, 06:28 AM
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I am a little late on this thread, but I would say you should either bulk or cut depending on what your personal goal is within a realistic timeline.

Its very difficult for me to get cut. If I eat right, train hard, supplement with NO and creatine, I can put on the pounds and strength goes up. In order to cut up I have to drop my calories and strength goes down. But I am getting there. Once I get there, I will try to build mass without losing my cuts. Again, assess what your current goal is and take it from there.
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