Sesathin, Sesalean, Sesaslim???

[thuway]

With all of these Sesamin products, I am having a hard time - more or less - begrazzled idea of which product is effective and reliable. I don't want to be stuck with a nitrotech made Sesamin.

I took Hot Rox at one point in time, and as soon as I got off of it, I gained all the weight back, I just don't want that to happen again...

So my question is, which Sesamin product, and what should I stack it with?


Thanks guys in advance,

And as a payback, I will post a journal of how effective this product is, as an in depth of a review as I can give.

[sputnik]

SesaThin is the original sesamin product by Avant Labs that some have knocked off. I say knocked off because no one has tried to enhance it to develpo something new with it, their just copies except in gel cap. You can get the original in either the liquid, caps or the coming gel caps.

SesaLean was developed using SesaThin as its main ingredient because afterall, SesaThin is meant to be used with meals, particularly meals containing fats and carbs. So the next logical step was creating a cooking oil with SesaThin, blended with other key ingredients to make it a a versatile and great tasting oil. Someone will eventually knock this off as well.

Can the 2 be used together? Yes and that's I'm currently doing. I for example take the SesaThin recommended dose, then I'll use 2 tablespoos in my PWO shakes, use it for frying eggs and ham, put some in my yoghurt with muesli, and also for stir fries. In fact I made a stir fry for my family last night. We'll actually be coming out with a recipe book, as a number of people have been testing the product and giving recipe ideas.

So there you go...

[thuway]

I just ordered the "cap" version of the Sesathin. I am going to stack it with some Omega Fatty Acids. I opted not to go with the stumulants because

A) I'm young -19 years old

B) I've had negative results overall when I took Hot Rox and gained all the weight back plus some

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MY QUESTION IS:
What type of effects should I expect?


My biggest concern is, since I didn't opt for something like Lipo-6 or Hot Rox, I am handicapping myself, however, from what I have read Sesathin and some sort of fatty acid working side by side has given MORE than desirable results.


How are you results btw?

[thuway]

Oh and one more thing, I am thinking about adding CLA to this mix, do you think this would be effective over a long term period of 2 months?


http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=2233


What do you think of the specs on that product? It seems to have the best of both the thermogenic world and the Natural world, without "looking" too troublesome.

[sputnik]

Yes I recommend not going down the road of stimulants at your age, and even then, when one can use supps that are effective and not stimulants, then all the better I say.

Stacking with fatty acids is good, as it would also be with Green Tea.

NOW CLA is a good brand for sure.

I hope you have ur weight training, diet and cardio in check. And remember SesaThin is not a magical supp.

Let us know how u progress.

ps as to my progress? u have to remember I'm biased, as I'm an Avant rep, but I'm honest...I've been using Avant's supps long before becoming a rep, and yes I use a wide array of Avant supps incuding SesaLean, SesaThin, Leptigen, HEAT and SuperCarb. Why, because they work for me. However, I do use other supps to.

[thuway]

Well sir,

My biggest question is, how do you think this stack will be effective as opposed to say Hot Rox or the old ephedra burners out there.

[sputnik]

Honestly I can't say myself as I havent tried those supps. Ephedra can be very effective, however it does have is potential side effects. Also I wouldn't recommend you use it at your age. As to Hot Rox, as you say, you put all the weight back on. Nuff said.

Stacking SesaThin and Green Tea caps/powder will def help you in either cutting down, or minimising fat accumulation during a bulk - in conjunction with good eating, a routine consisting of squats, deadlifts etc, and cardio such as sprints/interval training - and they're natural and healthy to boot.

[hrpiii]

if you lost weight because you were taking a supplement, then gained it all back when you came off is an indicator that your diet is not good. Plus, you need to remember that some of those "diet" pills are nothing but diuretics, so it's doing nothing but keeping water off of you.. once you stop, the water weight returns.

You need to look at your overall diet and exercise program.

Now sesathin has many other benefits, such as reducing cholesterol, improving your HDL, LDL values, etc. I do recommend these as year round supps. to promote a healthy body.

[macro]

as far as sesamin/episesamin,

Sesapure is the best value.

[sputnik]

good one macro

[macro]

Originally Posted by sputnik

good one macro

its true. Sesathin was the first but SesaPure is the most competitively priced.

[sputnik]

Bud I think just leave it at the comment u made earlier. Yes Avant put out the original and everyone since has just copied without actualy enhancing it. We've also come out with SesaLean, which actually shows innovation, which others just, well, knock off.

So let's just leave it at that.

[macro]

now your just being mean, your company takes someone elses idea, yes the use of sesamin for weight management was not an avant labs idea, and then sell a product based on that idea. THEN when other people come along and do the same they are bad guys making knock offs.

wow, thats an interesting world you live in.

just to clarify adding sesamin to enova is not exactly rocket science.


btw- it was avants "advertising" that led people to think that sesamin was an EFA (it is in point of fact a lignan). so you can put that feather in your cap.

SesaPURE is just a better priced product.

[sputnik]

Look Macro, I don't hop on to every thread that asks about sesamin and tell them about buying SesaThin like you do on Sesapure on various boards...the thread specifically asked about SesaLean and SesaThin, so don't jump on and try to flog your product. I don't go on threads asking about Scivation's Sesamin product or you Sesapure, trying to market SesaThin. Because I'm not a pimp. I see doing that as being disrespectful. I will only do so if someone has 'asked' for alternative products.

And yes since you've brought it to a head, sesapure IS a knock off. Did you guys rsearch it as thrououghly as Avant? Did u bring it to market?Did you guys at least try to improve on it? No. However, Avant went one step further with SesaLean.

Nuff said.

[ajkim]

whoa whoa hostility. now lets not make this a thread where everyone jumps on everyone else. the thread did originally start off by asking about avant products and sputnik is just responding to the question and just giving a little backgroud info, no need to pounce on the guy for going above and beyond answering the question. it is in my experience that sputnik is very helpful in more ways than one. BESIDES all the companies that have fat burners essentially all have the same idea and are selling the same thing