Opinions On Weight Lifting Supplements (Football)

[Jeffc1992]

Hello everyone, im Jeff. I was reading around some forums and thought this would be a good place to discuss. I am looking to get bigger and stronger for my last season of highschool football. Heres a little bit about me before I begin.

Age- 17
Height - 6"1
Weight - 175 lbs
Bench - 205 lbs
Clean - 185 lbs
Squat 205 lbs (This is what i really want to improve)

Position - I go to small school, so I could really play offensive position I want. For my size, my coach will undoubtedly be putting me on the offensive line, but I have a hell of an arm and wish to throw a few passes as a quarterback. For defense, I will be playing defensive end (so i concentrate on athletic explosiveness)

I lift 5 times a week and have been for the best 4 months. I only have a summer to get bigger, stronger and faster. During summer I will be lifting as much as humanly possibly. And the main topic I want to explore is strength supplements.

In the past I have been on:
- MHP Up Your Mass - This **** is hard to stick with because it tastes like sand...except sand tastes better.
- Methyl 1-D - I have about two days left of this, got it from a friend, seemed to have worked but I honestly havent been keeping track of my progress with it. But i want to steer away from products like this because they cost big bucks and ****ing with hormones doesnt sound too good of an idea anyways.
- Creatine pills - They made my stomach upset, so I probably wont be doing these anymore.

I currently have bought:
- Mass Peak Weight Gainer - 1000 calories per serving, 66 protein, 130 carbs. (twice a day, plus I drink a few cans of Boost a day)
- SAN Vasoflow vasodilator (I have about 2 months worth)
- MuscleTech® Alpha Amino Prototype 216 (bought two packs)

So, with the above mentioned supplements, can you tell me what I should expect from this in combination with 5 days a week heavy lifting.
Thanks a lot!
-jeff

[JayFive]

Need 2 more, important things from you:

Diet (what do you eat besides weight gainer and boost?)
Routine (you lift 5 days a week doing what?)

[mitchcumstein]

17 years old and using methyl 1-d? Big mistake. No, huge mistake. Might as well make an appointment with an endocrinologist right now.

[PhiSigPhi]

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

17 years old and using methyl 1-d? Big mistake. No, huge mistake. Might as well make an appointment with an endocrinologist right now.

No ****. You don't need any of that ****, especially at 17. Your body will recover quick as **** at that age and if you are already conditioned.

For football, just concentrate on huge, compound movements (deadlift, squat, BP, cleans, pull ups, etc.) and eat a lot and get 8 hours of sleep a night.

Additionnally train one day a week with 20-30 mins of steady state cardio and 2 -3 days a week I'd be doing Sprints...not neccesarily HIIT (but you can if you want). We used to get on the practice field and sprint 10x100yard sprints, 9x90 yard sprints, etc.... and then end it with 10x10 yard sprints with maybe 1-2 mins b/w sprints. I can't tell you how fast I got in that summer compared to what I did when I started.

O yeah, and keep the partying to a minimum if you are serious about it.

EDIT: I swear to much

[Jeffc1992]

Thankyou everyone for your replies. Yeah, about the Methyl-1D, I had heard good things about and people had claims of great gains, but not for me. Haha well I don't know if its really ****ing up my system that bad to see an endocrinologist, but I do understand your concern. Also, about my workout. I can run you through a normal upper body and lower body workout

Upper Day

1) Bench Press
2 x 5 light (two sets of 5 reps)
1 x 5 medium
3 x to failure (but not over 8 reps, if so move up in weight next workout)

2) Dips - 2 sets until failure

3) Dumbell Benchpress - 2 sets until failure

4) Lat pulldown - 3 X 12

5) Barbell Curls



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[Jeffc1992]

(ugh, I wrote post down but submitted it by accident before finishing it)

Anyways, thankyou for your replies. Haha about the Methyl-1D I only tried it because a friend said he made good gains on it, but its not really my thing and I understand your concerns about it. But as for my normal workout routine I alternate between Upper and Lower Body. (Some of you may have advice on what to do or what not to do but the schedule I will list below isnt really going to change because my schools strength coach is right there and flips **** if we don't do his workout, but it is very effective nonetheless)

Upper Body Day (listen in order)

Bench Press
2 X 5 Light ( 2 sets of 5)
1 X 5 Medium
3 X to failure (but not exceeding 8 reps, if so, move up in weight next workout)

Dips - 2 sets until failure

Dumbbell Bench Press - 2 sets each until failure (I usually get around 7-8 reps)

Lat Pulldown - 3 X 12

Barbell Curls
- 2 X 3 Light
- 3 X 8 Heavy

Dumbbell Curls
3 X until failure (I think, I cant remember exactly)

Reverse Curls - 2 X 12

Lower Body Day

Powerclean
2 X 3 Light
1 X 3 Med
3 X 3 Heavy (It is at a weight where I can just barely make it)

Squat
2 X 5 Light
1 X 5 Medium
2 X 8 Heavy

Shrugs - 3 X 8 Heavy

Hypo-extensions (its on this weird thing)
2 X 10 No weight
3 X 10 with a 25 pound barbell plate

Stiff Legged Dead Lift
- 3 X 10 with 40% max squat weight

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So that is basically my workout, it takes about an hour and 15 mintues, uppers take a bit longer than lowers. But my coach concentrates on explosive exercises. Everything we do, when we execute rep we do it as fast as possible, therefore translating into speed on the field. I lift every school day, but I will occasionally go to some Planet Fitness or whatever to do an upper body workout there.

As for my diet. Well, basically the normal 3 meals a day and snacks in between. Usually a high caloric intake with lots of protein for dinner in beef or steak. Lunch at my school blows, its usually like chicken patties or pasta or mexican bar or something. Appetite fluctuates, I dont know if any of you are familiar with the anti depressent drug Remeron. I take it at night and it turns me into an eating maching. And jesus christ you should have seen me on Seroquel, I swear I would eat more after taking that than I did the entire days worth. But yeah, I always eat a good breakfast, usually a few bowls of cereal, occasionally french toast or eggs or eggs on toast and breakfast sandwich when I get to school.

I had shin splints for the longest time which made sprinting extremely painful, but it is for the most part gone now and will sprint regularly, especially during summer. I love running sprints with the hot sun beating down and just sweating it out. I also know I need to keep myself well hydrated throughout the day.

So thanks everyone I hope this clears some stuff up I probably should have included it in the first post but I am basically writing a book here on this forum.
Thanks
- Jeff