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05-11-2008, 08:12 PM
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Overtraing?
Hey guys, Im new to this forum so any advice would be greatly apprciated....
This summer(after school ends) I will be entering my senior year and I'm a very dedicated basketball player. Since this is my last year of HS Bball I wanna go all out this summer and improve alot Heres what my schedule will look like Monday: 7-9AM: Summer Basketball Camp(pretty intense) 2-4 PM: Chest+Abs 7-9PM: Basketball Practice(AAU Team) Tuesday: 7-9 AM: Same as Monday 2-4PM: Legs+Calves 7-9PM: Summer League Games(2 40-minute games, Ill likely play 30 Mins a game) [b]Wednesday[b] Same as Monday except Back+Abs for the lift Thursday Same as Tuesday except Shoulders+Traps for the lift Friday 7-9 AM: Summer Basketball Camp 2-4 PM: Tris+Bis+Abs NO GAMES OR PRACTICE AT NIGHT Saturday Rest; maybe some light b-ball drills like ballhandling or shooting but not intense at all Sunday 4-5 Games for various basketball teams(AAU, Club, park district) I have a very clean diet and my stack looks like this: ON Whey(Thourghout Day) ON Nitrocore(Before bed) NO-Xplode(Prelift) Hydroxycut Hardcore(thourghout day) USPLabs Powerful(Recomened Times to use) Multivitamin Vitamin C Fish Oil Flax Oil Tons and tons and tons and tons of water(Maybe 2 Gallons?) So what do you think guys....I want an honest opinion on this Is it overtraining? I want to get really good at basketball(I already am pretty good but I want to get D-1 good) If I do go thourgh with this what kind of diet should I have? Lots of complex carbs? Any supplements I should add to the stack? Any advice is appreciated....Peace 
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05-20-2008, 05:12 PM
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unless your trying to lose weight id stay off the hydroxycut hardcore your taking in alot of caffeine with the no-explode and hydroxy. always try to get a lot of carb heavy snacks like energy bars/protein shakes. i don't think thats over training just make sure u get a nice refreshing sleep every night. lots of whole foods.
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05-23-2008, 10:28 PM
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I strongly suggest you drop the NO-Xplode from your stack. I took it for a while but until I found out it contained large quantities of caffeine which inhibits your ability to build lean muscle mass. As a matter of fact, the makers of NO-Xplode have a tort against them at the moment because the plantiffs believe that it is counter-productive to muscle building. Knowing what I know now I wouldn't touch the stuff if you paid me, let alone pay eighty dollars for the crap. Even though you feel a million dollars while you're on the crap, it's no good for you. Come to think of it, I'd drop almost all the supps from your stack except the whey and the multi-vitamin because you probably don't need all that crap if you eat right. Post your diet so we can give you a little more feedback and tell you if you actually are "eating right". If you want to get big and strong all you need to do is lift heavy, eat lots and rest up. No amount of supps is going to change that. Also, I think your split is kind of retarded but that's just me. On the topic of your split, could you post your whole routine so we can actually determine whether or not you're overtraining...
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05-24-2008, 11:22 AM
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-Sunny,
just wondering where you heard the stuff about caffeine inhibiting lean mass growth(post a website maybe)? I'm not questioning that you are right, I'm just curious as a person who takes in caffeine on a daily basis. Sorry for getting away from the thread topic, I agreed with Sunny that you should drop most of the supps. As for the working out I dont think you are over training at all, like said in an earlier post, eat right and get a ton of sleep.
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05-25-2008, 01:37 AM
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maybe because the caffeine constricts blood vessels?
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05-26-2008, 09:46 AM
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Caffeine DOES NOT inhibiting lean mass growth
Haha, guys have been drinking black coffee before their workouts dating back to the early days of BB'ng
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05-26-2008, 12:57 PM
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05-26-2008, 02:36 PM
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Caffeine can be a superior fat burner, not too mention what it can do for the average lifter trying to obtain more lean muscle mass. Research it, you will see what I am talking about Here's a few benefits I have listed just off a quick search. * Increased Definition * Increased Vascularity * Greater Pump * Increased Fat Burning * Increased Workload Capacity * Increased Endurance * Increased VO2 Max (Oxygen uptake) * Increased Workout Intensity * Increased Alertness and Concentration * Less Perceived Effort mentally Here's also a article that substatiates it further Caffeine For Muscle Building! | Blogging About The Truth To Gain Weight & Build Muscle Mass! Last edited by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives; 05-26-2008 at 02:42 PM.
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05-26-2008, 08:03 PM
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good find. Yeah, this girl who was a nursing major at my school kept telling that I was stupid to workout with caffeine because it restricts blood vessels. My one qaualm with black coffee preworkout is it gives me reflux like whoaaa.
thanks for the info
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05-29-2008, 01:01 PM
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Thanks for replies guys....heres my usual diet
6 AM: 20 G Whey, 1 Banana 630: 3 Whole Eggs, 1 Cup Oatmeal 9 AM: 1 Cup Almonds 11PM: 4 Slices Turkey, 2 Slices Multigrain bread, lettuce, 1 apple 430PM: 2 Cups Pasta 6 PM(Preworkout): 30 GM Whey, 5 G Glutamine, 5 G Creatine MOnohydrate, 1 Banana 8 PM(Postworkout): 45 G Whey, 5 G Glutamine, 5 G Creatine 9 PM: Leftover of what mom cooked, usually like a little ground beef or some baked chicken sumthin likfe that 1030 PM: 40 GM Casein Shake
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05-29-2008, 11:54 PM
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do you have a job to support your addiction to supps?....good luck on training....hopefully you get a scholarship
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