Back problem. help

[thatsall]

My bakc does not hurt on a normal basis. In fact i recently noticed it only hurts when i workout certain workouts. for instance when i do tricep pushdown(back straight in all workouts) i notice it started hurting in my right shoulder/lat area. To the point i couldnt do any more reps. Its like it clenches up and gets real tight then doesnt hurt anymore. And also when i do back it really doesnt hurt whiuch is weird. Pushupos i could feel it goin weak. I am young too. What can this be and how can i help

[CraigC]

Not sure what it is but you should stay away from all exercises that are painful. There are many exercises a lot better for building triceps than pushdowns so it's no real loss. If it gets any worse take some time off working out or go to a doctor.

[thatsall]

Thank you. Could you give some of the best things that would build size in the tricep department other then pushdowns.

[Builder101]

Skull crushers?

[Odin92681]

Dumbell tricep extensions

[CraigC]

Sorry, forgot to check back on this thread.

For mass building tricep exercises my top 2 would be close grip bench press and
weighted dips. I also like EZ bar skull crushers on an incline bench.

All I do for tri's is the weighted dips. My routine includes other compound exersises that also hit the tris.

[thatsall]

what exactly is skull crusher. and what do you mean when you say weighted dip. like u add weight to a regular dip, right? or you use weight as an aid for an easier dip?

PS. seen bumper sticker today:"My student is an honoroll studetn..."

now since honoroll mstarts with a concinent shouldnt it be "a" instead of "an"?
just curious...
also seen a user used?

[hutru01]

If your back hurts when you are doing any exercise its either one of two things.

1.) Your back isn't strong enough to support the stress you are placing against it. Try strenthening your lower back by doing back extensions, planks, and supermans/alternating supermans (on the floor). The key word is "stabilization".

2.) Your primary muscles that you are working aren't strong enough to lift the weight you are lifting. Decrease the amount of weight and try going up gradually. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Most people don't realize how important it is to develop a strong core. Its much like that of building the foundation to a house. Without the foundation, the house will just crumble. The same goes for your body.

[thatsall]

thanx that sounds like good info. Ill have to try to strengthen the core more. and lower back

[CraigC]

For dips I add weight using a weight belt to make it harder. You may be fine using your bodyweight. If you can't do your bodyweight use one of the stations with the weights that make it easier. See link below.

http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/excercise/dips.htm

Fpr skull crushers I meant something like this, but with your elbows up at a 90 degree andle with your body and let the weight down towards your head.

http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/exerc...extensions.htm

Here is another good tri exercise that is also known as the skull crusher( i think, i get names mixed up, lol) Can also be done with barbell instead of DB

http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/exerc...nchpresses.htm

[thatsall]

these excersizes are great but i have a question : Is it important to keep my elbows as close to my head as possible? It just seems like this would be the best bet, and also i far down on teh last excersize do you think, the seated one? This was one of my excersizes that didnt bother me , but i just had those two questions, i was goin down as far as i could while keeping form and elbows in as far as possible,..

[CraigC]

Yes form is very important but there is no need to really squeeze your elbows to your head. I am a bit lax on form on this one. I usually have my elbows about half way between my head and the farthest they go out (well maybe a bit closer to my head). I do down until my arm is just beyond parallel to the floor. If you make these slight changes it you allow you to add a considerable amount of your lifts. I find going too far down adds strain on my elbows. I guess you could take what I said as guidelines but do whatever feels comfortable.

[huknuts]

I would be careful the best advice for the back is judge by pain, be careful between actual back pain and back fatigue. also pelvic tilts help me an awful lot, there very simple to do to, just lay on the ground or hard surface with you knees bent and put your hand as a guider between your lower back and butt. hten basically try to "crush"your hand with you back(you dont litarely crush your hand (just pretend you humping the air )