Abs.. good machine, i think, ideas & suggestions please

[shyong]

so anyways i didnt really used to do abs before but im started to, so on mondays i do this machine

http://www.pro-fitness.com/photos/ab_crunch_bench.jpg

as many times as i can (usually around 15 times) x 4 sets with a 35LB plate i hold on my chest, i go all the way down and as far up as i can(plate touching my legs), (i know, killer on the back, not doing them properly, blah blah dun care) then followed by 4 sets of captains chairs leg raises thingers (10x4 sets)

anyways my abs hurt for like, at least 3 days after i do this, and i was wondering if theyre hurting that it must be doing something good?, or if u figure im not doing enough??... im like, fat, so my abs dont show but im currently losing the fat and i want to have nice abs so u think i should do more, or u figure this is good? it seems to be hurting fairly decently and not in a bad way.

[leonadas]

I believe the hurting is a good thing. I have been currently doing ab workouts like crazy just the fact that I need some deffinition in my stomach, and my stomach has some burning sensations when I repeat the process, but this burning sensation is good, it makes me more focused into wanting abs. I think your workout is working just fine, keep it up and hopefully you and I shall get some great results.

[Will100]

8 sets is way too much for abs..stick to 3-4 sets ONCE a week....MAX twice...once works tho, and do maybe 2 on the full ab motion, and 2 on the leg raises, or alternate weeks

HURT IS BAD...thats from doing too many sets and completely draining glycogen pools and extending your recovery period

[shyong]

yeah only do it once they start feeling better like after 4-5 days... u think im over doing it? the hurt im pretty sure if from forcing myself to pull up, cheating if i have to, anthing to get that 15x4 in

[jlozan84]

What does the rest of your routine look like? There are plenty of movements that indirectly target the core, so you really only need to do a few sets of direct work if you are doing other important compound exercises.

My personal favorite are heavy rope crunches, but weight decline crunches are fine too.

[shyong]

mondays i do bench press flys incline press cable crossoversand my ab routine thing i told u about.

tuesdays i do alternating bicep curls , preacher, and forarms workout,

wednesdays i take off,

thursdays i do dumbbell presses, incline bar raises? lol and military press

fridays i do skull crushers, dips, close grip bench press, and the ab workout


15 minutes of cardio everyday

[mitchcumstein]

Originally Posted by shyong

mondays i do bench press flys incline press cable crossoversand my ab routine thing i told u about.

tuesdays i do alternating bicep curls , preacher, and forarms workout,

wednesdays i take off,

thursdays i do dumbbell presses, incline bar raises? lol and military press

fridays i do skull crushers, dips, close grip bench press, and the ab workout


15 minutes of cardio everyday

I suppose your legs are gigantic so you dont feel the need to work them out?

[shyong]

i KNEW someone was going to be like "hey man u should do legs" or soemthing similar to that... wednesdays were my leg days but i cut them out because 1: wasnt seeing any results and 2: dont care what legs look like

and to answer your question no, my legs arent big at all, the only thing i do for them is running everyday, and the occasional squat if i hit up the gym on wednesday

[Fonz]

Originally Posted by shyong

i KNEW someone was going to be like "hey man u should do legs" or soemthing similar to that... wednesdays were my leg days but i cut them out because 1: wasnt seeing any results and 2: dont care what legs look like

and to answer your question no, my legs arent big at all, the only thing i do for them is running everyday, and the occasional squat if i hit up the gym on wednesday

I used to have the same mentality when I was just starting but you are gonna hurt your gains greatly all over your body if you dont do legs. Think about how much muscle mass is on your legs compared to the rest of your body. Its a whole lot of muscle. You need to stimulate as much muscle as possible to get the maximum amount of hormonal release and growth factor release.