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Old 01-20-2007, 12:27 PM
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hey, here is my routine, im looking for help on improving it. i have been lifting for around 1-2 months using this. and i dont want to waste any time training wrong. im 16 y/o ht-5,6 weight-115-120. im trying to gain weight, and bulk up since im very skinny. all suggestions are appreciated!!!


Day 1: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps

Dips (as many as possible x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Dumbbell Flies (8 reps x 3 sets)

Dumbbell Bench Press (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Barbell Bench Press (8reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Military Press (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets

Lateral Raises (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Tricep Extensions (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets




Day 2: Back, Biceps, Forearms

Pullups (as many as possible x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Barbell Rows (8 reps x 3 sets)
Dumbbell Shrugs (hold at the top for 2 seconds 8repsx3sets) 1 mintute between sets

Barbell Curls (8 reps x 3 sets)1 mintute between sets
Dumbbell Curls (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets


Day 3: REST

Day 4: REST



Day 5: Back, Biceps, Forearms
Pullups (as many as possible x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Barbell Rows (8 reps x 3 sets)
Dumbbell Shrugs (hold at the top for 2 seconds 8repsx3sets) 1 mintute between sets

Barbell Curls (8 reps x 3 sets)1 mintute between sets
Dumbbell Curls (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets



Day 6: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
Dips (as many as possible x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Dumbbell Flies (8 reps x 3 sets)

Dumbbell Bench Press (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Barbell Bench Press (8reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Military Press (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets

Lateral Raises (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Tricep Extensions (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets


Day 7: REST

Day 8: REST

i dont have a leg/abs day since i skateboard and walk alot every day.
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well skateboarding and walking doesnt make your legs stronger, sorry about that. You do need a leg day, it is imperative to help your overall growth. you also need to do some dead lifts on your back day. They are very beneficial and build a lot of overall strength. i also see a lot of bicep work, that isnt necessarily bad, but I think it can be a waste of time, maybe a few sets a week, but whatever. Pullups are cool, BB Rows are good exercise as well. I would recommend adding a leg day though. Good luck. There is some more stuff I could suggest, I have to go though, so i am sure someone else will chime in.
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ok thanks wnx i will add a leg/abs day, and ill add in dead lifts.
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to much shoulder work IMO. also r u trying to pre-exhaust or do u just like dips first?

also i would get rid of the db press and change it to incline/decline or rack bench.
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also i would get rid of the db press and change it to incline/decline or rack bench.
did u mean change it to bb incline/decline bench press or db incline/decline bench press? any other suggestions? is 1 minute between sets to long/short? and is 2 days off enough rest?
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did u mean change it to bb incline/decline bench press or db incline/decline bench press? any other suggestions? is 1 minute between sets to long/short? and is 2 days off enough rest?
you never addressed my comment about not doing any leg work or dead lifts.
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you never addressed my comment about not doing any leg work or dead lifts.
well i added deadlifts to my routine, i need some leg and ab workouts. so far i have...

Sprints
Crunches
Squats (8reps x 3) 1 minute between sets
SLDL (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 minute between sets

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Dude, you are doing too much shoulder work. Drop one of the bench movements, especially since you are going twice a week.

I would also recommend you drop the shrugs.

You need to have hips & calves on leg day also.

Since you are just starting out, why are you trying to get complicated and do a rotating split over 8 days?
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well since im very new to weight lifting im not sure what to drop.. do you have any suggestions on what bench movement i should get rid off? and i also need some hips and calves exercises, i dont have any machines, just a bench and free weights, i also have something that connects to the bench that is for legs.
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Old 01-20-2007, 07:44 PM
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Just do flat bench for now.....

Standing barbell calves are fine....

Do you have a pic of what you have that connects to the bench........is it a cable or some sort? If you are talking about a leg extention, that won't work. You would need to buy some bands.
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Yeah, might as well take that piece off the bench and use it as a weapon. Only thing it is good for is bashing your knee into it when you get up from benching.

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Day 1: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps

Dips (as many as possible x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Dumbbell Flies (8 reps x 3 sets)

Dumbbell Bench Press (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Barbell Bench Press (8reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Military Press (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets

Lateral Raises (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Tricep Extensions (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets




Day 2: Back, Biceps, Forearms

Pullups (as many as possible x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Barbell Rows (8 reps x 3 sets)
Deadlifts (8 reps x 3 sets)

Barbell Curls (8 reps x 3 sets)1 mintute between sets
Dumbbell Curls (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets


Day 3: Legs/Abs
Sprints
Crunches
Squats (8reps x 3) 1 minute between sets
SLDL (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 minute between sets
Standing barbell calves (8 reps x 3 sets)



Day 4: REST



Day 5: Back, Biceps, Forearms
Pullups (as many as possible x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Barbell Rows (8 reps x 3 sets)


Barbell Curls (8 reps x 3 sets)1 mintute between sets
Dumbbell Curls (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets



Day 6: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps
Dips (as many as possible x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Dumbbell Flies (8 reps x 3 sets)

Dumbbell Bench Press (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Barbell Bench Press (8reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Military Press (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets

Lateral Raises (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Tricep Extensions (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets


Day 7: Day 3: Legs/Abs
Sprints
Crunches
Squats (8reps x 3) 1 minute between sets
SLDL (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 minute between sets
Standing barbell calves (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets

Day 8: REST


how is this? or do u think im not resting enough??
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- Only do flat bench on push day.
- Back & Legs need to have 2 days between them because a lot of the same muscles are used during squat & deads.
- Drop the 8-day stuff man. If you are just starting out, just use the 7 days that there are in a week. Unless there are 8 days in a week for you for some reason. lol

Like this:

Monday - Pull (back/bis)
Tuesday - Rest
Wednesday - Push (chest/tris/shoulders)
Thursday - Rest
Friday - Legs
Sat/Sun - Rest

Make sense?
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ya i get it now. thanks alot for your help. ill start this monday.
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NP - start a log in the diary section. Intensity and consistency is key.
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- Only do flat bench on push day.
- Back & Legs need to have 2 days between them because a lot of the same muscles are used during squat & deads.
- Drop the 8-day stuff man. If you are just starting out, just use the 7 days that there are in a week. Unless there are 8 days in a week for you for some reason. lol

Like this:

Monday - Pull (back/bis)
Tuesday - Rest
Wednesday - Push (chest/tris/shoulders)
Thursday - Rest
Friday - Legs
Sat/Sun - Rest

Make sense?
this is what u want.

and god damn it, get rid of the db press, and put flat bench first, same as deadlifts and squats. they r the most taxing so they should b first. u can add in dips in first as well as flies (well flies r crap but some ppl swear by it still) as a pre-exhaustion exercise, but u wouldnt know what that is since ur new so no need to get complicated. flat bench, DL's and squats first on there respective days.

hip work is also good, very under-rated IMO.
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"- Only do flat bench on push day."


so you want me to take out dips, flies, military press, etc and only do flat bench?

Monday: Back, Biceps, Forearms (pull)

Deadlifts (8 reps x 3 sets)
Pullups (as many as possible x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets
Barbell Rows (8 reps x 3 sets)

Barbell Curls (8 reps x 3 sets)1 mintute between sets
Dumbbell Curls (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets

Tuesday: REST

Wednessday: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps (push)

Barbell Bench Press (8reps x 3 sets) 1 mintute between sets


Thursday: REST

Friday: Day 3: Legs/Abs

Squats (8reps x 3) 1 minute between sets
SLDL (8 reps x 3 sets) 1 minute between sets
Standing barbell calves (8 reps x 3 sets)
Crunches


Sat/Sun: REST

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cut your curling in half as well your working your bis with pull ups and rows at the most do 2 sets of bb curls and a set or 2 of db
Military press is fine, dips are fine for tri work, and flies are ok to for stretching after everything else is done Jlo is saying drop the db presses the rest of the chest day is ok.
If you want to only rest 1 minute thats fine but I'd puke doing squats with 1 minute rest. On my squat, deads, bench I go for 3-5 minutes rest depending on what I need its a personal preference some can do 1 minute and be fine for the next set I want to have full strength when I go into the next set so I wait a little longer.
Check out my journal I do a 3 day push pull leg split. I'm currently training for a push/pull meet in Feb so I'm not squating right now and my wieghts are a little on the lite side right now so I can peak out on meet day, after the meet the squat will be back in full effect. My journal should give you some ideas its based on what JLo just told you but will give you some choices on ways to change it up later on down the road.
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