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What? No Skullcrushers! I agree with everything else though.
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alot of people wont see a "horse shoe" because they dont put in enough work to make the inner head grow, its a very stubborn muscle.
most over head tricep extensions hit the inner head. kickbacks are ok for this if done right with the elbow pointed upward at an angle and not parrel to the floor. and as for pushdowns and close grip benches those are primarily for the medial and outer heads. |
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The whole concept of growth is based on overload, so do you seriously think you can get a good overload from using 15lbs worth of weight on kickbacks because your shoulder can't stabilize the weight, or from doing something like overhead cable presses where you have a solid platform to press from? Narc, you mentioned a 'burn' but a burn doesn't mean growth. I could curl a soup can for 20 reps and get a burn, but that doesn't mean I am growing. Especially when he asked for a routine to get results, I don't think kickbacks would replace any of the standard movements like CG bench, dips, or overhead presses. There are people going against shrugs now becuase asking for growth from a isolation kind of movement as opposed to something like trap deads, traditional deads, or rack deads, is like saying you can get big arms from curls only instead of compound movements. Shrugs aren't always considered the best movement for traps, there is a good number of people who feel shrugs are useless. Are pushdowns best for triceps just because it's an isolation movement? Some people love em. I'll stick with rack deads or deads for traps and keep my compound movements. Oi, lets get boyd over here, he would have a field day over people saying shurgs are best for traps.
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Good post Cafe...........
I'm sorry - I just don't see how a 1" movement can product any results or growth. Just because you "feel" a burn doesn't mean jack. Do some research on your own, rather than expecting everything to be handed to you regarding kickbacks and shrugs.........you will find plenty, trust me. |
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This is the answer i was expecting as it helps members here rather than just leaving them guessing... thank you for taking the time to post it as we can refer to your post in future. Quote:
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I agree i would find sh*t loads of info out there on the net, i wanted a reply so we can refer to in future questions when kickbacks are on next weeks cover of suave muscle mag
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