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07-17-2006, 07:14 AM
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5 Months... is it possible?
I've posted before, but I guess I just wasn't serious enough. I didn't have enough inspiration and now I do.
So here it goes.. I'm setting a goal, I weigh 228 and i'm 5'9. I've been taking Hydroxycut for the past day and I can honestly say, I notice the difference with regards to energy. I feel great, I have the will to exercise and it supresses appetite like a charm. I no longer crave bad foods etc. I don't even get the urge to eat. I feel hunger pains and then I eat something that is relatively healthy, yogurt, tuna, fruit, carrots. And i've been drinking about 5-6 16 ounce water bottles a day. I'm REALLY enthusiastic about this, but the thought of setting up a diet schedule and a workout schedule is intimidating to say the least. I'd like to get down to about 180 in 5 months. Is this possible? I just don't know where to begin, but i'm willing to try anything. 
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07-17-2006, 07:41 AM
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sure, it's possible. But don't lean on the hydroxy too much, focus more on your diet, second on your exercises. Why the magic 180 lbs? ..just curious. You don't want to supress your appetite too much.. you have to eat healthy to lose weight. Skipping meals or not eating is the worse thing you can do. If you make it to 190 lbs, feel good about yourself, because that would be 30 lbs in 5 months... might be more healthier than 40 lbs. in such a short time. Losing a 1-3 lbs a week is much safer/heathier and would less likely to put it back on in the long run.
Eat smart!! Are you looking for exercise tips? Or more diet tips? Or both. Tell us what your diet is currently (on a good day), your typical meals and exercises.. and we'll give you some tweaks for improvement.
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07-17-2006, 08:17 AM
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The 180 is just a random goal, still not sure about what to shoot for. I don't like the condition i'm in, I really feel that once I shed some of this weight off, I'm going to have some muscle. I don't have a whole lot of definition to my arms, theres some, but there isn't a whole lot of curves.
When I flex, my arm is rock solid though. To be quite honest, i'm just done with this weight, i've dealt with it for 6 years and really, I don't care if I have to do this unhealthily if it delivers good results. Bleh, I don't like the idea of 1-3 pounds a week, is that my only option?  I'm looking for direction, I have no clue where to start with an eating plan and really have no organization to my exercises, just random bursts until I get tired. My current diet? Well, whatever is there. Thats a big part of what I want to change. What i'm really worried about, is even if I shed this weight off, theres still going to be the whole "loose skin" thing. I read the articles about it and how it isn't "loose skin" per say, more of fat drooping down and pulling skin with it. EDIT: The only consistant exercise i've done is a quick run every morning, sometimes every other morning. Not really that far, just around the neighborhood.
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07-17-2006, 08:26 AM
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Don't get discouraged right off.. you will probably lose a lot to start with, then drop down to the 1-3 lbs a weeks. Look through the diet section here at many other post, maybe some of the journals in that section to get an idea of what you need.
Maybe what would help us out here is for you to write down what you are currently eating. You will want to keep track of your diet.. try fitday.com or make you a spreadsheet and keep track of calories,protein,carbs, and fat gms. This is a very useful tool to assist you and make sure you are staying on track. Running=Good!! Now what did you eat yesterday for each of your meals??
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07-17-2006, 08:31 AM
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I'm really bad when it comes to eating three meals a day.
I usually don't eat breakfast. But yesterday I had Breakfast Strawberry Yogurt (6 oz) Lunch Packet of tuna (3 oz.) Bagel 95 g Dinner Nothing Thats all I ate.
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07-17-2006, 08:40 AM
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If that's your goal, you're going to have to lose rougly 10 pounds a month if you want to do this in 5. That to me seems a little high and unrealistic, especially when you cut your initial weight after that it gets tougher.
Instead of weight why not make a goal of inches off your measurements? You also never really listed your exercise.
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07-17-2006, 08:42 AM
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Well, as I said, I don't really have anything that I do everyday, just kinda here and there.
I do run every morning/every other morning, but it's for a short distance. Is it normal for my throat to burn after running?
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07-17-2006, 08:51 AM
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For breakfast. Yogurt is good, but add a glass of OJ, maybe a piece of toast or a bowl of oatmeal around 9:30-10. Lunch, not bad, but this should be your best meal of the day since you are trying to cut carbs back. Have your carbs early in the day, not for dinner. But dinner, you definitely need a high protein meal. Steak, chicken, fish, Lean hamburger..something. Then add in some veggies.. carrots, corn, squash, beans, something. Might even try a protein shake mid afternoon for some added protien and very little carbs. This will also cut mid afternoon cravings.
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07-17-2006, 08:58 AM
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Okay. Now, can I eat the same thing every day or do I HAVE to mix it up? I don't have any desire to eat, I have only been eating just to get rid of the hunger pains so a repetitive diet wouldn't bother me by preference. I was also told carbs were bad, I guess it's just that mainstream bull**** eh? Could you give me a quick rundown on why I should stock up on carbs? I know I should do cardio in the morning, but what about weights? At night? I'm pretty limited when it comes to equipment, I do have a weight bench with (not sure what it's called) the lift on the end for leg exercises. I have a barbell with 50 lbs. total of weights. I also have two 10 pound barbells and I don't know what your opinion is on this, but I have an abslide  I'm not sure how an exercise routine should be set up, can I get an example along with exercises that would be possible for me to do with the equipment I have?
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07-17-2006, 09:04 AM
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I would set small goals first. As for a long goal of 5 months 195 would be healthier and more realistic.
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07-17-2006, 09:09 AM
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Starvation diets don't work for long term. Correct, your body will burn more muscle than fat, and I'm pretty sure that this is not a goal of yours.
You can eat the same thing every day, just up to you whether you want some variety. This is where keeping track comes in and you can see what you can and can not have based on your totals. Carbs are not bad, only too many carbs are bad. You do need some carbs for energy throughout the day.. only the excess carbs will be stored as fat. And it matters when you eat those carbs. A bowl of oatmeal for breakfast is good.. a bowl of oatmeal before bed..not so good. A half a cup of rice for lunch, really good, half a cup of rice for dinner.. not as good (but better than other choices). Weights are good for maintaining strength, because you will not be building any additional muscle wtih the depletion of carbs from your diet. Exercising is going to help burn some additional calories. The goal is to let your body know that it has a good source of constant nutrition coming in, so it can release/burn that fat (stored energy). This is why you will read so much about eating 4-5,6 meals a day. Every time you eat, your metabolism kicks in a little to process that food. Those meals don't need to be sit down, 5 course meals.. just something healthy to let your body know it's getting nutrition.
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07-17-2006, 09:17 AM
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No, it's not :P
Hmm, how many calories/fat etc. should I be consuming daily? Hmm... so what you're saying is I won't be able to burn fat and gain muscle at the same time? "Those meals don't need to be sit down, 5 course meals" I don't understand exactly what you meant by that. Did you mean that instead of eating all of breakfast at one time I can spread it out but before lunch? I think i'm starting to get this. Tell me if I got this, my unhealthy eating habbits have caused my body to believe that there is a lack of nutrients available so it's storing whatever it can in order to keep me alive. So by eating right, my body will see that it's okay to "let it's guard down" and burn the fat stores. The exercise just enhances the whole process, correct?
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07-17-2006, 09:31 AM
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My advice would be to research this site on threads that apply to your diet, workout routine, etc. and try to formulate a sensible plan. With no real exercise routine or healthy diet, it's going be hard to lose any weight at all.
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07-17-2006, 09:50 AM
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What i've got so far is that I should get a diet together and focus on mainly cardio. Or should I be lifting weights while cutting?
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07-17-2006, 10:06 AM
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Drink alot of water and get a good protein. You can get in depth as you want, but the basics are all you need to get on track to losing weight. Try lifting 3 days a week and doing cardio 2-3 times a week.
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07-17-2006, 10:18 AM
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You need to get the basics of diet and exercise down first before trying more advanced strategies. You are correct on your "unhealthy eating statement". What I meant by 5 meals a day, is eat a good breakfast (meal 1), eat a healthy snack around 10 (veggies or bananaor cup of chicken breast - meal 2), healthy lunch (tuna or chicken breast on wheat bread) as meal 3, healthy dinner around 4:30-5 as meal 4, then maybe a protein shake before bed (meal 5). Find what works well for you. But all these meals need to be tracked so you can tell what you have left to hit your goals. try this as a starting point to get your calorie/protein/carb needs http://www.eas.com/training/calcalc.asp
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07-17-2006, 10:18 AM
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So basically what you're saying is I don't really have to count every single calorie, just keep on top of things?
EDIT: Alright, i'm starting to get confused. It seems i'm getting two different strategies here. Am I incorrect? I have another question, is rest really that important when cutting(thats the correct term for shedding fat right?)? Because I tend to have some.... unhealthy sleeping habbits, kinda have insomniac spells. Last edited by Iforgotmyaliasatwork; 07-17-2006 at 10:22 AM.
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07-17-2006, 11:18 AM
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It's all one strategy. Find your limit of your calories to lose weight based on that link. Once you know what your limit is, plan your meals so you stay close to that. Keep track of everything that goes into your mouth (protein, carbs, fat, calories). Write it down, and keep a total so you know what you have left to eat. It's okay to miss it over/under by a few gms, but not way over or way under (unless we are talking about the fat gms).
Eat your meals, write them down, by the time you have finished your lunch, you should be able to calculate what you have left to eat for the day. Either one or two small meals. If you have consumed all your alloted Carbs, well then, I guess you are just having meat for dinner. You don't want to do this, but it could happen. If it does, just do better planning next the next day. Cutting if the correct term. You are trying to "cut" the fat while at the same time, maintain your current muscles mass. Unhealthy sleeping may be due to your poor diet.
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07-17-2006, 11:37 AM
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I did it. 225 to 175 in 3 months with a little help from phentermine. I wouldnt do it again though now that I know better.
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07-17-2006, 12:02 PM
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