Fat burners and Prohormones...

[Jim]

... are not for teens.

why:

- fat burners affect ur metabolism, regulated by the thyroid, which regulates important hormones for proper growht. you should be at least 18. if ur a late bloomer, wait till ur 20's.

- prohormones, any kind, leads to side effects. that's a minor point. at a young age, your body is full of hormones. you don't want to introduce any external hormones into your system. wait till your 20's.

[Taekwondo Guy]

and not to mention steroids either... not the route to go at all when your young.
Your body still produces alot of natural test when your growing up and it shouldnt even come into your mind till your 21+ (after serious thought too)

[Jaime]

Bump on Bulk’s post, I’m glad you brought that up Bulk.

[Rsully16]

i wouldnt do steriods not even when im older... i and my dad have known to many people that said stuff like "the side effects only happen when you dont take them right" but then like 5yrs later even after they are off them they start to show the side effects.... not worth it at any age for me

[choiboixl]

bump

teens, dont use fatburners. trust me.

[jeffv321]

granted that your all right so many football players in my school juice and they are huge.

[johncenawordlife]

i am 14 and have ben using one stacker 2 once a day for like 5 days....is it really gonna hurt me cause i really want to loose the fat..im 6'3 190 lbs. and im only 14

[sonicasian]

yes it will hurt you! why do you think it says not to take it if your under 18!
just get some determination! go out and run o :P r do some cardio!

[Hardgainer9]

I've been lifting seriously for 2 and a half years and don't seem to be getting anyreal gains. I have done some research on different supplements, I have come across DermaGain and seen some good things about it with no real evidence of sides. I'm 19 5'11 and 150lb on a good day, I have tried creatine Animal Stak NO2, and I eat protein till I pretty much have diaharea would this be ok for me? If not is there something I could use to give myself a little kick?

[T-Bone]

Originally Posted by Incredible Bulk

and not to mention steroids either... not the route to go at all when your young.
Your body still produces alot of natural test when your growing up and it shouldnt even come into your mind till your 21+ (after serious thought too)

Im not condoning the use of pro-hormones or anabolic steroids in teens in this post, nor am I considering their usage personally but....

Im constantly reading about how teens have elevated test levels etc, and thus dont need any chemical assistance etc, But does anyone (Bulk?) have any studies/information about the actual difference in test levels between teens and say people in their 20's/30's. From what i have researched test levels dont appear to drop significantly until 40's/50's.

Any information appreciated!

[tribal]

Curtousy of Pogue -

Teenagers and Prohormones/Steroids

I have been getting an increasing number of messages from individuals under eighteen asking me advice about prohormones. Although, I don't mind having these types of discussions with them, I feel as though I have typed the side effects up for them numerous times and still have trouble detering them from using them, so I want to outline some of the potential risks involved with teenagers using prohormones.

Health Risks

When you are under 21, your endocrine system is still developing. This should be obvious as you are still going through the end of puberty, getting acne, etc. During this time peroid, supplementing with extrogenous hormones is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. There is potential for very serious and long term side effects to occur. I hear all the time some of these people saying that "I've stopped growing, so it's okay". No - it's not okay. There are many other potential side effects besides growth plates. Here is a list of a few.

1) Premature closing of growth plates. This one is the most known about. Even if you think you have stopped growing, there still is a potential for height increase over time. I have known people who are 18+ who have continued to grow in height. Scientists know that growth plates don't fuse completely in some cases until individuals are past 22. Don't be deterred just because you haven't grown taller in awhile.

2) Impotence. Supplementing with hormones while you are still growing can potentially cause PERMANENT impotence and fertility issues in teenagers. When you add testosterone, estrogen and a wealth of other synthetic androgens to your body it can cause problems with your normal testicular growth and function. Remember, some of these effects are more than just temporary.

3) Liver/Kidney Problems. I hear all the time teenagers say "Well my friends used it and they got big and nothing happened to them." Really? How do you know? Have they been to a doctor and had their liver and kidney values checked? I doubt it. Just because a person looks okay on the outside, doesn't mean that they could have a host of problems on the inside. Liver and kidney damage is nothing short of serious. This can occur even in people who are past their teen years.

4) Gyno or "***** tits". I believe this using androgens in teens can really increase the risk of gyno. Gyno has been known to happen naturally in many teenagers because of already fluxating hormones. When you add more hormones to the mix, you dramatically increase the problems. Remember that once you have gyno, its very hard to get rid of unless you take the proper precautions up front.

5) Hair loss/acne/prostate aggrevation, etc. All of these can be increased and agrevated with external androgen use. Have you ever seen a 20 year old going bald? It's not pretty. Don't think it can't happen to you.

6) Brain function. It is well known that hormones play a role in development of cognative brain function. Adding external hormones when your brain is still developing could be a disaster waiting to happen. How can you now many years down the road there won't be problems?

Psychological Problems

Being a teenager can be difficult as it is. Getting used to your own body image can be hard if you feel you're different than everyone else. Many teenagers turn to bodybuilding to help improve that image, and that can be a very healthy thing. However, when a teenager becomes obsessed or is only after short term goals of getting ripped in 6 weeks then it can be a very serious problem when prohormones/steroids get in the mix.

1) Abuse. There is a high potential for abuse when individuals turn to prohormones/steroids when they aren't mature enough to handle them. Most of these individuals had these substances recommended to them by friends with erroneous data presented to them on how to use them and how they work. I have seen teenagers on this board claim to never come off cycles of Mag-10 and 1AD. There is no reason to abuse your body like that. Never coming off hormones can have even greater risks than using them for the short term, such as halting normal hormone production permantely. If you have a problem and want to discuss it with us, please post it.

Legal Problems

Using steroids and prohormones underage can have very obvious legal implications. Since all prohormones have labels on them indicated that they are not for use for individuals under 18, you take into liability not only yourself and your family, but risk liability on the manufacturer and seller who sold these substances to you. By doing this, you are hurting the community who use these substances responsibly. Take responsibility for yourself and stay away from these. Causing harm to yourself is one thing, but everytime a teenager uses prohormones, the potential for them being banned increases. Here are some other problems

1) Drug testing. If you are a teenager playing sports, using steroids and prohormones can seem like a good idea to increase your performance. How would it look if you suddenly got tested for them? Being tested for prohormones WILL SHOW UP AS STEROIDS. You will have no recourse for this, and could potentially find yourself being investigated by the authorities.

2) Purchasing steroids is already illegal, but purchasing prohormones can have implications as well. As I already said, on all bottles of prohormones there is a label saying "Not for use for individuals under 18". That is not just printed on there as a joke, that is on there for a reason. If you bought these substances underage and then got into trouble or had one of the side effects listed above from taking these, what do you think your parents are going to do? They are probably going to sue the manufacturer, sue the seller, and possibly contact their congressmen demanding these substances be banned. You just screwed everyone because you were in a hurry to get some quick muscle. Take into consideration the rest of us before you make your irresponsible purchases.

Please read this over and think about what your goals are a long time before you decide to take your health into jeopardy and risk legal repercussions by using prohormones and steroids as a teenager. You not only endanger yourself, but all of us who want to or may want to use prohormones one day. We all want to have good gains and have pefect bodies, thats why we're here. But rushing into things and abusing susbstances is not the answer. There is absolutely no justification for teenagers to use prohormones or steroids. None. So, before you decide to use them - please take some time out, and make a post describing your training, diet and supplemenation. I know that me and the other members of the board would be more than happy to help you make some changes to your diet and training to help gain naturally, without the use of androgens. Doing this, you will save us all a a lot of grief.

[G-Unit4Life]

Good post. maybe these kids will stop using that crap

[Topgun]

Well put tribaltek, with some of the discussions going on here this need to be said.

[tribal]

Some of the mods have talked this over, and basically, we do not want anyone posting anything pro-hormone/pro-steroid/steroid related in the teen section.

It is for your own good to not use them until your mid-20's (see the post above).

Any talk of the above mentioned will be immediately locked and/or deleted.

[derekc4]

WERD^

[aikurushii]

how about CLA, it burns fats..

[VBigNate]

is m1t as bad as other pro horomones , bcuz i know that it doesnt go to your liver, thanks mods

[iNEEDabs]

i want to get sum abs but i got LOVE HANDLES THAT are interfereing iono how to lose them please reply to me!!








im 15 160 my arms are great just my stomach that is hurting mE!

[Zeke]

My brother is 18 and he just told me today that he bought some prohormones. I forget what they are called, like nonandro... something, i will go look at the bottle and report back. The bottle is about half empty already though. I guess I'm going to have to try to talk him out of it.

[thechri5]

first m1t is basically steroids, its top of the prohormone charts, it and other products that utalize 1-testosterone, such as mag-10 and 1-testabol, are really harmful for a teen, if u wanna gain some weigh eat more especially protein (whey container, eggs, milk, tuna, are the easiest, im drinking milk right now ) take creatine, i suggest TRAC by MHP, and a new one i heard of called CE2 just came out, both will minimize water retention. you dont need to take prohormones if ur a teen bc u havnt reached your bodies natural peek yet. BTW the high school roid heads will prolly be balled or fat by the time there in there 20s

* thats another serious side effect not mentioned about TEEN PROHORMONE USE may cause OBESITIE down the road, could screw up ur thyroid (regulates bodies metabolism)