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Old 01-20-2009, 12:53 PM
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Unhappy Sad day....

Well it happened again. Last night about one in the morning I got the call. I have been a police officer for 5 years now and it never gets easier to hear that one of your fellow cops got killed on duty

A pretty good friend of mine this time. He was on a traffic stop arresting some idiot for drugs and got hit by a looky loo passing by. He was rushed to the hospital and died a couple hours later of his injuries....

Sad sad day - he was in his early thirties and just had a baby in november.

Makes me wanna cry and hit someone at the same time...
thats all.

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What kind of charges does the moron get for getting your friend? Manslaughter?
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the looky loo's are pretty dangerous..........whenever i can i approach the passenger side........sorry to hear about your friend
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What kind of charges does the moron get for getting your friend? Manslaughter?
She got a f*ckin citation for careless driving, his family lost a dad and husband....somehow doesnt seem fair

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the looky loo's are pretty dangerous..........whenever i can i approach the passenger side........sorry to hear about your friend
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Sorry to hear the bad news dude....sucks!
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Citation - are you kidding me?

Sorry to hear the bad news man.
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I guarantee there will be more than just a citation. Could be reckless homicide, recklessness with a vehicle causing death. There are several charges that will be brought up.
And yes, Im sorry to hear about your friend. It does hit home no matter where an officer gets killed from.

I remember almost getting hit by a huge Dodge pick-up while I was performing a traffic stop. I nearly climbed into the window of the vehicle I stopped. I felt the air from the truck real strong on my back. Needless to say I didnt ticket the guy I stopped but I radioed in what happened and an officer from the next town got that truck stopped and was issued a couple citations and got a good butt chewing.
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I guarantee there will be more than just a citation. Could be reckless homicide, recklessness with a vehicle causing death. There are several charges that will be brought up.
And yes, Im sorry to hear about your friend. It does hit home no matter where an officer gets killed from.

I remember almost getting hit by a huge Dodge pick-up while I was performing a traffic stop. I nearly climbed into the window of the vehicle I stopped. I felt the air from the truck real strong on my back. Needless to say I didnt ticket the guy I stopped but I radioed in what happened and an officer from the next town got that truck stopped and was issued a couple citations and got a good butt chewing.

No, she really only got a traffic citation...in NM we have could have charged her with manslaughter, reckless endagnerment resulting in death, an slew of things.....but, no, our DA says is was an accident and no cahrges are to be filed...
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Obviously you don't have Jack McCoy as your DA.
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Soooo, if I accidentally drop a hand grenade inside a KFC I can walk away with just a ticket?
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Dang bro. THat is really sad. I'm sorry for your loss of a friend.


My sister's fiancee was killed by a lady who ran a stop sign.

She got a ticket for running a stop sign.


Although she wasn't out to hurt anyone, she deserved a huge fine a a license revocation AT MINIMUM.


She should have been charged with manslaughter IMO. I don't necessarily believe her punishment should have been a prison sentence, but she needed to know that she royally ****ed up peoples lives. Although I'm sure she feels guilty about killing someone, she got a fine for $150. That doesn't mean ****.

If I had 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 Dollars I'd pay it to save someone's life that I care about.


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No, she really only got a traffic citation...in NM we have could have charged her with manslaughter, reckless endagnerment resulting in death, an slew of things.....but, no, our DA says is was an accident and no cahrges are to be filed...
da's like that suck, our dept. deals with that on a regular basis, air tight cases getting dropped or plead down....nobody is held accountable.......his family should go after her in civil court
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I'm so sorry to hear about this. I'm sure it is very hard to deal with. My thoughts are with you and his family! My husband wanted to go into law enforcement at one time and it scared the daylights out of me..... so sad that something like this happened at a ROUTINE traffic stop, all because someone wasn't paying attention....
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I'm so sorry to hear about this. I'm sure it is very hard to deal with. My thoughts are with you and his family! My husband wanted to go into law enforcement at one time and it scared the daylights out of me..... so sad that something like this happened at a ROUTINE traffic stop, all because someone wasn't paying attention....
they preach in the academy that NO traffic stop is ROUTINE....in police homicides, complacency can often be blamed.......for everyone that think law enforcement is an overpaid field, this is what we get paid for....the things that MIGHT happen, not the things that happen routinely......
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they preach in the academy that NO traffic stop is ROUTINE....in police homicides, complacency can often be blamed.......for everyone that think law enforcement is an overpaid field, this is what we get paid for....the things that MIGHT happen, not the things that happen routinely......
well said...

lately i have heard people( mostly civilians) say "well she will have to live with that for the rest of her life" ...who cares...because she did not give 100% of her attention to the road she killed a good man...there were 3 cop units and 1 tow truck ...all with lights on and instead of slowing down and pulling her head out of her ass she sped up and hit him at 62mph. i have no compasion for her ...let god forgive her i will not ...and everyone else thank you for the kind words
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If that was our department, the protocol would of been to first and foremost, do a breath test for any type of alcohol and do field sobriety tests, license check, then transport her to the hospital for a blood draw to determine if she was under the influence of alcohol or drugs. If she was under the influence, then its a C felony possibly B felony if it was within the past 5 years.

If she wasnt under the influence, the accident reconstruction team would be working overtime to get all the facts straight. Unfortunately if she had a valid license, no drugs or alcohol in system, and she stopped and cooperated with the police, then there really is no legal charge to bring her up on reference just being an accident causing death. Not saying thats right, but that's how the law works here in Indiana.

However, with that being said there is another infraction you could and should write and that is failure to yield to an emergency vehicle. By state law, it requires a driver to move into the far lane if possible and/or slow speed down to a safe speed when passing the emergency vehicles that are stopped on the road. You could also write her for unsafe speed maybe.

She could also be charged with Involuntary Manslaughter which is a D Felony. She could also be charged with Criminal Recklessness with a vehicle which is a C Felony since it resulted in death.

If your prosecutor doesnt at least try to go for one of these felony charges then I have to say that is pathetic. And remember this, the prosecutor is an elected official so when his term is up for re-election, vote in someone else.

Again, sorry for the loss. Im just trying to clarify the way the law reads in reference to this type of incident.
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Sorry for your loss man. I have had that phone call a few times in my time and no matter how many times it happens it hurts just as much. May God bless you and give you strength. You and your department and your friend's family are in my prayers.
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