Allow Gay Marriage?

[jlozan84]

Hey Merk, why don't you post of picture of your life partner dude.

[mitchcumstein]

Originally Posted by Merk0135

What's wrong with teaching our kids that gay people are allowed to marry once it's a law? It's not like they're teaching them to be gay, lol. No matter what I learn about homo's I'll never be gay. If anything it will teach them acceptance. Something you obviously lack. Fear is not the answer and your anger doesn't make anyone cower.

Because eventually theyll be teaching it in sexual education. I dont want my kids knowing about how gays have sex any more than I want them to know how a guy fvcks his pet sheep. Its a sexual deviance. So you may or may not be born with it, its really irrelavant and it certainly doesnt mean its OK and should be accepted. Pedophiles are born pedophiles, its not learned. Do you think they should be afforded rights under the constitution? Dont be ridiculous.



Use your fvcking brain, if you have one. Liberalism is EXACTLY whats wrong with society today.

Originally Posted by jlozan84

Hey Merk, why don't you post of picture of your life partner dude.

Pwnd

[Merk0135]

Originally Posted by jlozan84

Hey Merk, why don't you post of picture of your life partner dude.

Why don't you say something intelligent?

[Merk0135]

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

Because eventually theyll be teaching it in sexual education. I dont want my kids knowing about how gays have sex any more than I want them to know how a guy fvcks his pet sheep. Its a sexual deviance. So you may or may not be born with it, its really irrelavant and it certainly doesnt mean its OK and should be accepted. Pedophiles are born pedophiles, its not learned. Do you think they should be afforded rights under the constitution? Dont be ridiculous.

The agruement isn't over sex education, it's over gay marriage. And having sex with someone under age and pedaphilia isn't the same as two adults having consenting sex.

[fitme]

I would be afraid of my kids learing about it too but I'm not going to stop my child from playing or becoming friends with a child whose parents are gay.

Life is too short! Let us all live happily ever after! As long as they keep their gayness to themselves and act respectful, why not? I would be afraid for my kids to go over to the kids house whose parents were gay though. LOL

[mitchcumstein]

Originally Posted by Merk0135

The agruement isn't over sex education, it's over gay marriage.

read my earlier post fool, gay marriage opens the door to gay sexual eduaction in public schools because you dumb liberals in your infinite stupidity have included sexual orientation as a from of discrimination.



Bigotry in the traditional sense only applied to race or religion. Now you pussy liberals have tried to apply it to sexual orientation. Doesnt work that way, theyre not the same thing. I suppose next we shouldnt be discriminating against the mentally insane. I mean they were born with it, they cant help it. They should be allowed to do whatever they want right even if it includes going on a killing spree, right?


Like Tommy said, if you wanna be gay, you should be happy you can do it without fear of being killed for it as in other countries. But you liberal pussies just cant leave it at that. We dont want anybodys feewings to get huwt.

Liberal Fools

[BiggerGuns=LongerDrives]

Originally Posted by Merk0135

Exactly, people who think gay couples can't raise "normal" children are just ignorant and really have no real world examples or justification to pull from. If they feel it puts kids at a "disadvantage" in school because of being ridiculed then maybe they should stop preaching bigotry.

Bro, accept the facts, children prosper the most in a normal up bringing with a mother and a father, this is a fact!

Whats next, is someone going to make an argument for single mothers?
Are you going to say it's perfectly healthy for a child to have one parent only?
That having one parent doesnt affect the child in any way shape or form?
Thats an apologist perspective. In other words, the only ones arguing this as fact are the single mothers who cannot accept the reality of their situation.

My parents were divorced when I was 2 yrs old, I lived my life without my father in it for the most part until I was a teenager and he got his act together. So I know myself this fvcked me up inside my head as a kid and I will tell you this, alot of kids got their as$es kicked because of it.
I channeled all that negative energy into fighting and it was a major problem growing up for me. It took me years to understand that I was a frustrated child, that deep down I couldnt accept that I didnt have a real family like the other kids did.

So please dont sit back and tell me it's perfectly ok on the children.

[Merk0135]

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

read my earlier post fool, gay marriage opens the door to gay sexual eduaction in public schools because your dumb liberals in your infinite stupidity have included sexual orientation as a from of discrimination.

oh, here comes the name calling and "owned" statements, huh? You debate like a two year old.

Why can't gay people get married and not teach about it in school? I don't see why it matters, though. So what if kids learn about gay sex? It happens, they should know about it. What are you afraid of? It's going to turn them gay and into social deviants? LOL.

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

Bigotry in the traditional sense only applied to race. Now you pussy liberals have tried to apply it to sexual orientation. Doesnt work that way, theyre not the same thing. I suppose next we shouldnt be discriminating against the mentally insane. I mean they were born with it, they cant help it. They should be allowed to do whatever they want right even if it includes going on a killing spree, right?


Fool

Your reasoning skills is that of a neanderthal. Mentally imbalanced people do have the same rights as everyone else. Name one law that says since someone has a "mental condition" they can't do something or are not protected by law? If they're institutionalized that is obviously a different story. Also, not all mentally unstable people are "born" with their condition.

[fitme]

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

Bro, accept the facts, children prosper the most in a normal up bringing with a mother and a father, this is a fact!

Whats next, is someone going to make an argument for single mothers?
Are you going to say it's perfectly healthy for a child to have one parent only?
That having one parent doesnt affect the child in any way shape or form?
Thats an apologist perspective. In other words, the only ones arguing this as fact are the single mothers who cannot accept the reality of their situation.

My parents were divorced when I was 2 yrs old, I lived my life without my father in it for the most part until I was a teenager and he got his act together. So I know myself this fvcked me up inside my head as a kid and I will tell you this, alot of kids got their as$es kicked because of it.
I channeled all that negative energy into fighting and it was a major problem growing up for me. It took me years to understand that I was a frustrated child, that deep down I couldnt accept that I didnt have a real family like the other kids did.

So please dont sit back and tell me it's perfectly ok on the children.

I strongly agree that every boy NEEDS a father! The lesbian couple I knew had a girl so I didnt see it that way. Some of these lesbians are more manly than some men.

[Merk0135]

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

Bro, accept the facts, children prosper the most in a normal up bringing with a mother and a father, this is a fact!

If it's a fact then where are "facts" to back it up? Again, plenty of scenarios where criminals come from a father and mother raised or just a father or just a mother. Also, plenty of scenarios law abiding citizens come from being raised by a gay couple.

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

Whats next, is someone going to make an argument for single mothers?
Are you going to say it's perfectly healthy for a child to have one parent only?
That having one parent doesnt affect the child in any way shape or form?
Thats an apologist perspective. In other words, the only ones arguing this as fact are the single mothers who cannot accept the reality of their situation.

A single mother is sometimes better than having the fvcked up father around and vice versa. Gay people are very capable and have raised very well educated and law abiding children. Sexual preference has zero indication of your ability to be a parent.

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

My parents were divorced when I was 2 yrs old, I lived my life without my father in it for the most part until I was a teenager and he got his act together. So I know myself this fvcked me up inside my head as a kid and I will tell you this, alot of kids got their as$es kicked because of it.
I channeled all that negative energy into fighting and it was a major problem growing up for me. It took me years to understand that I was a frustrated child, that deep down I couldnt accept that I didnt have a real family like the other kids did.

So please dont sit back and tell me it's perfectly ok on the children.

It depends on how you're raised, bro. My family is just as fvcked up as the next. In fact there are more "dysfunctional" families than "normal" ones I'd say. Plenty of good and bad come from both sides.

[mitchcumstein]

Originally Posted by Merk0135

oh, here comes the name calling and "owned" statements, huh? You debate like a two year old.

Why can't gay people get married and not teach about it in school? I don't see why it matters, though. So what if kids learn about gay sex? It happens, they should know about it. What are you afraid of? It's going to turn them gay and into social deviants? LOL.




Your reasoning skills is that of a neanderthal. Mentally imbalanced people do have the same rights as everyone else. Name one law that says since someone has a "mental condition" they can't do something or are not protected by law? If they're institutionalized that is obviously a different story. Also, not all mentally unstable people are "born" with their condition.

But its exatly that reasoning that gays should not be discriminated against according to you liberals, because theyre born with it and cant help it. Its utterly foolish. There needs to be some common sense. Born black, shouldnt be discriminated against. Born a jew, shouldnt be discriminated against. Born a pedophile, gay, horsefvcker, dogfvcker= you get no rights.


Seriously, why is it liberals completely lack any common sense?

[BiggerGuns=LongerDrives]

Originally Posted by fitme

I strongly agree that every boy NEEDS a father! The lesbian couple I knew had a girl so I didnt see it that way. Some of these lesbians are more manly than some men.

What? So a girl doesnt need a father in her life?
Tell that to my 8 yr old. If I were to just miss one of her soccer games it would crush her.

EVERY CHILD NEEDS A MOTHER AND A FATHER

Originally Posted by Merk0135

If it's a fact then where are "facts" to back it up? Again, plenty of scenarios where criminals come from a father and mother raised or just a father or just a mother. Also, plenty of scenarios law abiding citizens come from being raised by a gay couple.
.

Please stop Merk, you are a very inteligient guy, I know this.
So please dont let trying to argue your viewpoint cloud your sense of reality.

It is undebatable. PERIOD!
A child is more likely to become a normal human being if he is raised in a normal family setting....
There is no debating this.

If not, then I as a single father I would be allowed to just go adopt a child right?
But it doesnt happen this way right? The adoptions are based around 2 sets of parents and a family setting and this is a for a reason, BECAUSE IT'S BEST FOR THE CHILD

[fitme]

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

What? So a girl doesnt need a father in her life?
Tell that to my 8 yr old. If I were to just miss one of her soccer games it would crush her.

EVERY CHILD NEEDS A MOTHER AND A FATHER

That's why I said a lot of these lesbians are more manly than REAL men. lol

I kinda agree but it doesnt mean it's a "perfect family" like merk said either. It depends on the family itself.

I'm sure their are kids that have been brought up by single parents and they are TOTALLY normal and fine.

[Merk0135]

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

But its exatly that reasoning that gays should not be discriminated against according to you liberals, because theyre born with it and cant help it. Its utterly foolish. There needs to be some common sense. Born black, shouldnt be discriminated against. Born a jew, shouldnt be discriminated against. Born a pedophile, gay, horsefvcker, dogfvcker= you get no rights.


Seriously, why is it liberals completely lack any common sense?

There's nothing wrong with being gay. I don't agree with it and find it disgusting but that's not to say they shouldn't have the same rights as everyone else, regardless if they're born with it or not. If you want to talk about beastiality and pedophiles then that's another story. They get no sympathy from me either. You argue that bigotry against gay people is not the same as bigotry against blacks but you say gay people are the same as pedophiles and horsefvckers? You can't have it both ways. The main difference is gay couples are consenting adults. Pedophiles rape and abuse children and beastiality...well animals are innocent, lol. You want to restrict rights against gay people then what's to stop people from restricting rights against any other group that cause no harm to anyone else?

[mitchcumstein]

Originally Posted by fitme

That's why I said a lot of these lesbians are more manly than REAL men. lol

I kinda agree but it doesnt mean it's a "perfect family" like merk said either. It depends on the family itself.

I'm sure their are kids that have been brought up by single parents are they are TOTALLY normal and fine.

There are kids out there that will turn out fine DESPITE their upbringing. There are always exceptions.



But were talking about the rule of thumb here.

[Merk0135]

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

There are kids out there that will turn out fine DESPITE their upbringing. There are always exceptions.



But were talking about the rule of thumb here.

There is absoultey no proof whatsoever that people raised by a gay couple will turn out "worse" than if they were raised by a mother and father. Again, plenty of examples in real world situations that have shown that.

[mitchcumstein]

Originally Posted by Merk0135

There's nothing wrong with being gay. I don't agree with it and find it disgusting but that's not to say they shouldn't have the same rights as everyone else, regardless if they're born with it or not. If you want to talk about beastiality and pedophiles then that's another story. They get no sympathy from me either. You argue that bigotry against gay people is not the same as bigotry against blacks but you say gay people are the same as pedophiles and horsefvckers? You can't have it both ways. The main difference is gay couples are consenting adults. Pedophiles rape and abuse children and beastiality...well animals are innocent, lol. You want to restrict rights against gay people then what's to stop people from restricting rights against any other group that cause no harm to anyone else?

Btw, the vast majority of pedophiles are gay in case you didnt know that. Its a sexual deviance, a sickness any way you slice it. Why is one sexual deviance any better or worse than another? Because one has a victim and the other doesnt? Thats ridiculous. Its bad enough kids find out about this **** on the internet, it doesnt need to be forced down their throats by govt.



It ironic how everyone talks about their god-given rights. You dont have a god given right to be gay. In fact, god hates gays.

[fitme]

Didnt Rosie Odonnell just get married recently? LOL

[Merk0135]

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

Btw, the vast majority of pedophiles are gay in case you didnt know that. Its a sexual deviance, a sickness any way you slice it. Why is one sexual deviance any better or worse than another? Because one has a victim and the other doesnt? Thats ridiculous. Its bad enough kids find out about this **** on the internet, it doesnt need to be forced down their throats by govt.

Show me one study that shows the "vast majority of pedophiles are gay." You keep making claims with no proof or facts. Now, I do believe the gov't has no right teaching our kids "moral" issues. That's for the family to teach.

[BiggerGuns=LongerDrives]

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

Btw, the vast majority of pedophiles are gay in case you didnt know that. Its a sexual deviance, a sickness any way you slice it. Why is one sexual deviance any better or worse than another? Because one has a victim and the other doesnt? Thats ridiculous. Its bad enough kids find out about this **** on the internet, it doesnt need to be forced down their throats by govt.

True and the vast majority of strippers come from broken homes too, or were molested a child. Some sure come from the normal marriages too, but we are talking about the majority here

Kids being raised by homosexual parents are more likely to:

* Report having had sex with a parent,
* Experience homosexuality as their first sexual encounter,
* Be sexually molested,
* Be teased and taunted by their peers
* Become homosexual or bisexual
* Report dissatisfaction with their childhood.
* BECOME ALL FVCKED UP THE HEAD ....LOL

We talk about parents rights and gay rights and womens rights, BUT WHAT ABOUT CHILDREN'S RIGHTS?
Each every child should have the right to have a set of natural parents!!!!!!!!!