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Old 10-02-2008, 04:39 PM
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bottom line, we will never know the answer to these "questions" until we die.
But how do you know we will know at that time?
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faith. i can't even comprehend what happens when i die. i can't comprehend an absolute nothingness, there's gotta be something after
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If God knows the past, the present, and the future; and if He/She knows the plans He/She has for us; and if He/She already knows what we want to say or do even before we say or do it, how is there free will?

Also, (i'm assuming) since we know the only choices we have are to 1. go to heaven and 2. go to hell, who would WANT to go to hell? That means we only have ONE choice - to CHOOSE heaven. If not, we have NO choice at all!

Critical assumption: Heaven is a nice place and hell isn't.

There are probably certain theological elements in my statements above that some of you might not agree with. But let's put all "religious theory" aside and try to focus on "free will".

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Critical assumption: you assume we believe in a Christian god.
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:34 AM
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Or Muslim or Jewish. They're basically the same being (all seeing, all knowing, creator of all) but with different teaching and etc.

Basically, my opinion is that we're all rats in a maze with infinite paths. He sees all the possible outcomes but has no idea which way we'll go till we do. And even if that's not true, who cares? It's free will if you think it is, how would you know any better?
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