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02-25-2008, 05:45 PM
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Why democracies fail?
i read this on the internet today and found it very interesting. there is some debate over who actually said it but i dont think that really matters all that much.
"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship" i think this is very true and more and more voters in the US are discovering that they can do preciesly what it says, vote for candidates who promise them free benefits. while i do believe that democracy is the best system of government ever devised it is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity.
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02-25-2008, 08:10 PM
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the decay process already started.....is just a matter of time before things get worse. There is money spent that frankly I really do not know where the government takes it from....which in the end will result more or less like some form of socialism.
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02-26-2008, 09:14 AM
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The reason why human society has been failing terribly is because "It does not belong to man to direct his own step", mainly due to the inherited imperfection of sin. This naturally present and evident trait won't allow for a perfect life without the intervention of a perfect being. The presence of Satan along with the control he has over all the governments.
Although many people don't believe in one and/or the other, there's substantial evidence to support the existence of both, especially the Devil and the hold it has over the earth's governments. That can be discussed whenever. (the two main reasons why society fails are in bold)
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02-26-2008, 09:24 AM
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Wow, you are just a wealth of knowledge. You have ALL the answers dont you? This fvcking guy has an expert (ahem, Google) opinion on everything. . Last edited by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives; 02-26-2008 at 09:50 AM.
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02-26-2008, 09:31 AM
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The only form of government to WORK is a benevolent dictator. Hah!
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02-26-2008, 04:13 PM
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02-26-2008, 04:27 PM
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and democracies fail because of satan? oh i see now. that makes perfect sense to bring religion into this discussion please forgive me.
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02-26-2008, 04:29 PM
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Actually, the topic of politics is right alongside religion. That's one of the most controversial topics IN politics. No need to take the cynical sarcastic approach about it though. At least, that's how I'm interpreting your response(s). If you don't understand something, don't take offense to it or attempt to make it seem foolish. It doesn't prove, or rather, disprove anything.
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02-26-2008, 04:32 PM
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02-26-2008, 08:10 PM
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religion does play an immensely important role in government, but i won't go into that as it seems like it's not wanted here.
 a major problem with democracy is that it, just like any other government, relies upon the sacrifice of the citizens to make it work. the u.s. (the country i will base my views on, since i live there) is no longer about the country as a whole, it is about the individual. democracies work because it has the collected voice of the people focused upon increasing the common good. when was the last time you heard someone speak about "our great nation" in an honest manner? i know that i haven't heard it in awhile. back in my grandpa's day, it meant something to be an american. it meant something because the citizens made it mean something. they worked not only for themselves and their families, but for the benefit of the country as well. the u.s. was a solid 3rd place in their hearts, right after God and family. all that being an american now a days means is that you are probably overweight and you vote for the next american idol instead of the next president. when we work now a days, we work for ourselves. some of us also work for our families, but it isn't uncommon to hear people bickering in a relationship about "MY MONEY!" or "MY TIME!" or "MY THINGS!" as long as we continue to place ourselves first and foremost above everyone else, instead of placing them right beside us in importance, democracy will continue to fall away. also, i happen to believe that communism is the way to go with government. the only problem is, it would be in charge of people, and people are just too greedy to make communism work properly.
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02-26-2008, 09:18 PM
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02-26-2008, 09:19 PM
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i agree democracies are the most successful but they have failed. Greece for example. they actually were not even a representive democracy like we have (where you vote people to represent you i.e. senators, congressman etc..) they actually voted on every single issue.
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02-26-2008, 11:45 PM
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This is true, but thanks to them we learned from their mistakes and there hasn't been a scenario similar to this since. Not to my knowledge at least.
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02-26-2008, 11:51 PM
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voting on every single issue is not only time consuming and demanding, but if we had to vote on every single issue we would slow to a crawl as a country, therefore our representative democ. is much better. If we had to sit, research, vote, and devote all this time to every issue of course we would fail, we would be doing nothing else, hence the fall of greece (it came in many different ways, but im just saying thats an obvious hindrance to production)
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02-29-2008, 02:39 PM
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i agree, i wasnt advocating voting on every issue. just stating that there have been other demcracies that failed.
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02-29-2008, 04:39 PM
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