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Old 07-03-2007, 11:20 PM
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Your silly personal attacks show that you are immature and hateful.

I do not like that Kennedy quote, he was so far off the mark with that one. As for military service I did not serve due to the fact I was told by my father who is a Vietnam vet not too. I respect my father and he explained to me that it was not a good life decision, so I went to college instead.
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Old 07-03-2007, 11:45 PM
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Boyd.....Jamiel ....... chill fellas....... please........ serious discussion, lets leave the personal attacks out.

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Area 51, man. Who knows what they have hear, I was watching some show in the history channel about future weapons, tech and all that they said in 20 years or so our troops are going to have a uniform/camo that changes colors/adapts to the enviroment around them. Also possibly in 40+years our troops will be invisible, but highly doubtful. haha

The Military channel will be having a special series on new technology being made by the US, it starts on July 8th at 8:00pm, every Sunday.
Yeah dude, there is technology being developed that when perfected can be made into a suit that bends light around it. Here, let me try to find the article. Pretty damn cool. Right now they have it to the point where they can bend like a certain wavelenght. It could make objects invisible to night vision.

This isnt the original article I read but it's still interesting. I'm pretty confident that we will have a cloaking technology in the near future.

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Email Scientists have created a cloaking device that can reroute certain wavelengths of light, forcing them around objects like water flowing around boulders in a stream. To creatures or machines that see only in microwave light, the cloaked object would appear nearly invisible.

"The microwaves come in and are swept around the cloak and reconstructed on the other side while avoiding the interior region," said study team member David Smith at Duke University's Pratt School of Engineering. "So it looks as if they just passed through free space."

The device [image] only works in the microwave range of light, so cloaked objects are still visible to humans. Also, it only works in two dimensions and only for microwaves moving in a plane. A three-dimensional invisibility cloak would hide an object completely.The microwave cloak is also slightly reflective and casts a partial shadow.

Despite these shortcomings, however, the new device is "a very good achievement," said Ulf Leonhardt, a theorist at the University of St. Andrews in England who was not involved in the study.

"It's surprising that it's as simple as it is and that it works so well," Leonhardt said in a related news article about the work in the journal Science.

The achievement, reported online today by the journal, comes five months after the same team published a study detailing the precise mathematical specifications a needed to build such a cloaking device.

Metamaterials

The apparatus was made using "metamaterials," artificial materials engineered to have precisely patterned surfaces that interact with and manipulate light in novel ways.

Although called a cloak, the device is not something that can be worn. Rather, it consists of a series of concentric circles, made of copper rings and wires patterned onto sheets of fiberglass, and resembles a loosely coiled reel of film.

The patterns enable the manipulation of light, and the size of the patterns determines which wavelengths of light can be manipulated. Smaller patterns affect shorter the wavelengths. Microwaves have relatively long wavelengths and can be affected with metamaterials having relatively large patterns. Manipulating visible light, which has much shorter wavelengths, will require metamaterials with much finer patterns.

While making those finer patterns is possible with current nanomanufacturing technologies, the metals used to make the microwave cloak would behave differently with visible light, Smith said.

"They act very differently at optical wavelengths; they become very absorptive. A cloaked object would just become very opaque, rather than transparent," he told LiveScience.

But even if metamaterials are made that can deflect visible light, don't expect the kind of invisibility offered by Harry Potter's cloak or Star Trek cloaking devices any time soon.

Human eyes are sensitive to many different wavelengths of light, as evidenced by the rainbow of colors that we see, and it's still uncertain if metamaterials can deflect so many wavelengths simultaneously.

Still useful

But even imperfect cloaking devices might be useful, the researchers say. Cloaks that deflect radio waves could render an object invisible to radar or improve cell phone receptions by rerouting signals around obstructions. They might also be used to protect people from penetrating and harmful radiation.

"If you knew that you had radiation of a certain bandwidth frequency, you could have it skirt around some region that you wanted shielded," Smith said.

The team says the next step is to create a cloak that works in three dimensions and to perfect the cloaking effect.
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Old 07-04-2007, 12:28 AM
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Yeah dude, there is technology being developed that when perfected can be made into a suit that bends light around it. Here, let me try to find the article. Pretty damn cool. Right now they have it to the point where they can bend like a certain wavelenght. It could make objects invisible to night vision.

This isnt the original article I read but it's still interesting. I'm pretty confident that we will have a cloaking technology in the near future.
ya thats cool, but scares the crap out of me too.... im not a conspiracy guy or anything, but if they get that technology, so will the wrong people with a lot of money, and some illegal things will happen, im sure of it.
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That is crazy, who knows what other kind of technology they got and we don't know about. They already tested this one thing where an airplane has lasers mounted on each end, circles around the battlefield and if the enemy shoots a missle the plane detects it and shoots it out of the sky w/ the laser. The laser will hit the missle in the stages of take off so all that was blown up will fall back down on those who shot it at us.
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Amazing when you look at the history of how sh1tty the troops have been treated over the last 50+ years that people still volunteer.

isnt funny how the ones that never served are the ones doing the complaining. the ones that truly dispise the military even though it is what gives them the freedom to even make this post. how come the troops arent complaining? im sure someone on here will find some quotes of a few disgruntled soldiers but the MAJOR majority arent complaining. in fact most are saying they want to stay in iraq until the job is done. they want the handcuffs taken off of them and be allowed to fight like they were trained to do. and there is a reason why 80% vote republican every election and its not cause they are brainwashed which is what the far left, anti american (and anti UK) whackos want you to believe
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As for military service I did not serve due to the fact I was told by my father who is a Vietnam vet not too. I respect my father and he explained to me that it was far better to sit back and complain about the country while at the same time leeching off of it.
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musclesntx i'm proud of you. I'm not sure why you don't post more often in the serious discussions, you obviously have your head on straight.

i agree totally. keep it coming boyd you obviously are a educated in this area (and to me your a real, true american)..
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That wasnt musclesntx posting those thoughts....... That was Beard!
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I would never serve in the military but I'm glad the poor kids do.
Not a very nice comment bro. try reading Peoples History of the United States, I think you need a non American propaganda book to get some real facts about war.
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I would never serve in the military but I'm glad the poor kids do.
nice try with that fake comment but i actually did serve in the military (and funny thing, i wasn't poor) so get your facts straight before you create a fake quote and put someone's name on it.
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Old 07-04-2007, 09:13 PM
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Well mindfreak, I do believe you were the first to "fake" a quote by jamiel.

I see nothing wrong with what jamiel has posted. He is entitled to his opinion just as much as anyone else.

Whatever the next serious discussion topic is, lets all try to act a little more like intelligent adults, instead catholic school girls .

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