Fred Thompson For President

[na_feu]

I think Chauncey has the facts right. However, like I said earlier, there is a specific reason that the Democrats are polling the way they are right now and that reason is because the left wing agenda they adopted from their base does not resonate with most Americans, even registered Democrats. Who cares who polled lower, bottom line is the Democratic party is out of touch and does not realize it. Both parties are out of touch. The Dems want to make Bush's last year a living hell and brighten their chances for '08, and the Reps want to cater to hispanics to better their chances for '08. They are both wrong. The American people want a leader, not a panderer. Bush, as monkeyish as he is, is a leader and I think most Americans know this. Harry Reid is a traitor as far as I'm concerned, and so are most of the Dems who proclaim defeat in Iraq because it means defeat for Bush. War is supposed to unite the AMERICAN political parties against the enemies of AMERICA, but what we have is a party that united with the enemy. They are invested in our defeat in Iraq so they can win in '08 and say "haha you republicans made us lose in Iraq". What a bunch of scum.

I wish Thompson would run as an independant so we could get rid of this Bush-Clinton oligarchy.

And the majority of hispanics dont even vote, someone send Karl Rove a friggin memo.

[Chauncey11]

The immigration Bill has more to do with helping Businesses than trying to get the hispanic vote.
And nobody wants us to lose in Iraq. Like every General has said, Iraq will be won Politically and not militarily. We are not engaging in battles in Iraq. Our troops are getting killed by IED while transporting from one point to another. The Iraqi Government and Iraqi people need to decide for themselves what kind of country they want to live in. It's this Pussy-footing that Bush keeps doing, If this was to be won Millitarily than send 500,000 troops in there and let them take care of business, but it's not. We have to sit and wait(while The Iraqi Government was on vacation for 2 months) and watch our troops die while they take there sweet ass time figuring out how to create a government. we need to set up a time-table, regroup and redeploy to stomp out terrorism, Pakistan,Afghanistan, and Saudi Arabia.

[na_feu]

Originally Posted by Chauncey11

The immigration Bill has more to do with helping Businesses than trying to get the hispanic vote.

I think both. Republicans forget two things: 1. Hispanics are Republican by nature. 2. Illegal immigrants are Democrat by financial situation. That and most hispanics don't vote.

Originally Posted by Chauncey11

And nobody wants us to lose in Iraq. Like every General has said, Iraq will be won Politically and not militarily.

Touche.
Iraq will also be lost politically not militarily. There are people in Congress who are activly engaging in the political defeat of the supporters of the war, thus the defeat of America. (Your own words).

Originally Posted by Chauncey11

We are not engaging in battles in Iraq. Our troops are getting killed by IED while transporting from one point to another. The Iraqi Government and Iraqi people need to decide for themselves what kind of country they want to live in.

Couldn't be firther from the truth. Are you familiar with General Petreus' troop surge which now has 40% of Baghdad in our control, as well as dozens of other previously notorious terrorist hot-spots? We are moving and engaging and very fast, just don't rely on your nightly news to tell you about the progress we make.
Frankly I don't know why the government there is incompetent but probably has to do with a lack of organization and fear. Fear of the very people who we are trying to kill. So, maybe the competence of the government depends on their sense of security which we need to provide by STAYING THERE.

Originally Posted by Chauncey11

It's this Pussy-footing that Bush keeps doing, If this was to be won Millitarily than send 500,000 troops in there and let them take care of business, but it's not. We have to sit and wait(while The Iraqi Government was on vacation for 2 months) and watch our troops die while they take there sweet ass time figuring out how to create a government. we need to set up a time-table, regroup and redeploy to stomp out terrorism, Pakistan,Afghanistan, and Saudi Arabia.

I agree on the pussy-footing. The planning was obviously awful and the rules of engagement...well we all know about that. Yes we should have sent more troops in there and taken care of business, and if you ask me we should have a sequence of surges. The left in this country has to be a appeased to some extent however, and as soon as the journalists start showing dead people on TV, the war is over..politically. I think Bush considered this and decided to fight a clean war. But the sad reality is that war is war and kids die and mothers cry, and either you do right or don't do it at all. This was his fatal miscalculation which will be his legacy.
Terrorism will not die in Iraq. It will be around long after we pull out, until every society on earth stands up to these bozos. They are not fighting the U.S., they are fighting the west, the non muslim, and the disagreer. They are at war with everyone who doesn't agree.
I love me some good political discussion. Oh Boy!

[ShortBucRising]

Originally Posted by iknowboyd

Anyone else who wants to copy something off a website and paste pro/anti stuff on here of someone's voting record to prove a point, maybe you should first consider actually LOOKING at the bill as a whole for several reasons.

1 - you might want to find out how many Congressman/Senators actually voted for/against something before you single out one person on their vote ... good chance your candidate is right in the mix with the same vote
2 - there are these little things called earmarks that Congress loves to add to bills that often times cause a bill to sink or float - so a final vote often times is not because of the merit of the bill, but because of the earmarks (and/or amendments) attached to it ... so saying he voted "for" or "against" one thing isn't the full picture ... that would be like saying "Chris Benoit died" ... yes, he did - but is that really a fair statement to make considering what happened?
3 - 3/4 of what you posted - do you even know what any of that does or how it affects you or the taxes you'll end up paying out?!! If it's just something you think "doesn't sound good," do your research and don't just talk out of your ass ..........

Out of the candidates out there right now - R or D - Fred Thompson has the lowest negatives and highest positives ... That's not a biased opinion, that's facts. In other words, he has what a good percent of the public thinks it will take to make a good president. He also has something that few - if any - of the other candidates have and that's a true understanding of the philosophy and role of government. There are plenty of things that the gov't should keep their hands out of - not put their hands further into ....

Isn't that the truth! May not support the guy, but this goes both ways.