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06-07-2007, 06:43 AM
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A Young Marine Speaks Out
A Young Marine Speaks Out
by Philip Martin I'm sick and tired of this patriotic, nationalistic and fascist crap. I stood through a memorial service today for a young Marine that was killed in Iraq back in April. During this memorial a number of people spoke about the guy and about his sacrifice for the country. How do you justify 'sacrificing' your life for a war which is not only illegal, but is being prosecuted to the extent where the only thing keeping us there is one man's power, and his ego. A recent Marine Corps intelligence report that was leaked said that the war in the al-Anbar province is unwinnable. It said that there was nothing we could do to win the hearts and minds, or the military operations in that area. So I wonder, why are we still there? Democracy is not forced upon people at gunpoint. It's the result of forward thinking individuals who take the initiative and risks to give their fellow countrymen a better way of life. When I joined I took an oath. In that oath I swore to protect the Constitution of the United States. I didn't swear to build democracies in countries on the other side of the world under the guise of "national security." I didn't join the military to be part of an Orwellian ("1984") war machine that is in an obligatory war against whoever the state deems the enemy to be so that the populace can be controlled and riled up in a pro-nationalistic frenzy to support any new and oppressive law that will be the key to destroying the enemy. Example given – the Patriot Act. So aptly named, and totally against all that the constitution stands for. President Bush used the reactionary nature of our society to bring our country together and to infuse into the national psyche a need to give up their little-used rights in the hope to make our nation a little safer. The same scare tactics he used to win elections. He drones on and on about how America and the world would be a less safe place if we weren't killing Iraqis, and that we'd have to fight the terrorists at home if we weren't abroad. In our modern day emotive society this strategy (or strategery?) works, or had worked, up until last month's elections. My point in this; to show that America was never nationalistic. If anything they were Statalistic (giving their allegiance to the state of their residence). This is shown in the fact that the founders created states with fully capable and independent governments and not provinces that were just a division of the federal government. These men believed that America was a place where imperialistic values would be non-existent. Where the people trying to make their lives better by working hard, thinking, inventing and using the free market would tie up so much of normal life that imperialistic colonization and the fighting of wars thousands of miles away for interests that are not our own would be avoided. They believed this expansion of power could be left to the European nations, the England, France and Spain of their time. However this recent, and current influx of nationalistic feeling has created an environment where giving up your rights, going to a foreign country to fight a people who did not ask for us to be there, nor did their leader do anything to warrant us being there, and dying would be considered honorable and heroic. I don't believe it anymore. I don't believe it's right for any American to go along with it anymore. Yes I know that we in the military are bound by the UCMJ and somehow don't fall under the Constitution (the very thing we're suppose to be defending) but sooner or later there is a decision that every American soldier, marine, airmen and seamen makes to allow themselves to be sent to a war that is against every fiber this country was founded on. I know that when April rolls around I will be thinking long and hard on that decision. Even though we in the military are just doing as we're told we still have the moral and ethical obligation to choose to do as we're told, or to say, "No, that isn't right." I believe that if more troopers like me and the professional military, the officers and commanders, start standing up and saying that they won't let themselves or their troops go to this illegal war people will start standing up and realizing what the heck is going on over there. The sad fact of the matter is that we are not fighting terrorists in Iraq. We are fighting the Iraqi people who feel like a conquered and occupied people. Personally I have a hard time believing that if I was an Iraqi that I wouldn't be doing everything in my power to kill and maim as many Americans as possible. I know that the vast majority of Americans would not be happy with the Canadian government, or any other foreign government, liberating us from the clutches of George W. Bush, even though a large number of us would like that, and forcing us to accept their system of government. Would not millions of Americans rise up and fight back? Would you not rise up to protect and defend your house and your neighborhood if someone invaded your country? But we send thousands of troops to a foreign country to do just that. How is it moral to fight a people who are just trying to defend their homes and families? I think next time I go to Iraq perhaps I should wear a bright red coat and carry a Brown Bess instead of my digitalized utilities and M16. Notice I never once used the word homeland in any of this. I have a secondary point I want to bring up now. Never once was the term homeland ever used to describe the country of America until Mr. Bush began the department of homeland security after the 9/11 attacks. Taking a 20th century history class will teach us that the most notable countries in the last century that referred to their country in this way were Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. Hitler used the term fatherland to drum up support, nationalistic support, for his growing war machine. He used the nationalism he created in the minds of the Germans to justify the sacrifice of their livelihood to build the war machine to get back their power from the oppressive restrictions the English and French had put on them at Versailles. This is the same feeling that has been virulently infecting the American psyche in the last hundred years. This is the same feeling that consoles a mother after her son is killed in an attempt to prosecute an aggressor's war 10,000 miles away. It's also known as Patriotism these days, but I say, "No more." No more nationalistic inanity, no more passing it off as patriotism. Patriotism is learning, and educating oneself to understand what their country really stands for. I heard a lot during the memorial service about how the dead Marine did so much good for others and how his helping others was like a little microcosm of America helping because we have the power to do so. Well if we have the power to help people why aren't we helping in Darfur where hundreds of thousands of people have died in the last 10 years. Saddam was convicted and sentenced to death for killing 143 Shiites who conspired to assassinate him. (I know all you "patriotic" Americans would be calling for the heads of anyone who conspired to assassinate supreme leader Bush). And yet we spend upwards of 1 trillion dollars and nearing 3,000 lives to help these Iraqis when they don't even want us there. Not to mention we don't have the legal justification to be there. I guess we should wait around for the omnipotent W Bush to decide who we should use our superpowerdom to help next. It's about time to throw him and the rest of the fascists out. Moreover it's about time to start educating Americans about their past and history, and letting them know that imperialistic leaders are not what the founders of this great country wanted.  Philip Martin has been a Marine for 2 years. He is in the infantry (a "grunt"), and spent 7 months in the al-Anbar province of Iraq. He went on more than 180 combat patrols in and outside of the city of Fallujah, where he was hit with 2 IEDs (luckily never injured) and was involved in a number of firefights. He is currently stationed in Twentynine Palms, CA, and due to return to Iraq for a second deployment in April 2007. He is 21-years-old.  "When I joined I took an oath. In that oath I swore to protect the Constitution of the United States" Last edited by POWERJIM; 06-07-2007 at 06:53 AM. 
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06-07-2007, 06:21 PM
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Nice article....The thing that annoys me the most are these 2 things
1.) People who are always i support are troops, soldiers are heros and all that...yet they dont really do anything to help the troops what so ever, in reality they dont give a crap, they just say they do because it is "right" 2.) The way the military works......they are way to focused on acting on what the public will view it as......The public needs to open up there eyes and let the military do what it has to do....people are still in iraq so we can make it seem like we have control and people are getting killed to try and kepp bush's approval ratings up....its bullsh*t
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06-09-2007, 08:35 AM
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He's five foot-two, and he's six feet-four,
He fights with missiles and with spears. He's all of thirty-one, and he's only seventeen, Been a soldier for a thousand years. He'a a Catholic, a Hindu, an Atheist, a Jain, A Buddhist and a Baptist and a Jew. And he knows he shouldn't kill, And he knows he always will, Kill you for me my friend and me for you. And he's fighting for Canada, He's fighting for France, He's fighting for the USA, And he's fighting for the Russians, And he's fighting for Japan, And he thinks we'll put an end to war this way. And he's fighting for Democracy, He's fighting for the Reds, He says it's for the peace of all. He's the one who must decide, Who's to live and who's to die, And he never sees the writing on the wall. But without him, How would Hitler have condemned him at Dachau? Without him Caesar would have stood alone, He's the one who gives his body As a weapon of the war, And without him all this killing can't go on. He's the Universal Soldier and he really is to blame, His orders come from far away no more, They come from here and there and you and me, And brothers can't you see, This is not the way we put the end to war.
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06-16-2007, 08:23 PM
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The Marine who wrote this is an idiot, if he really is a Marine. Similar to the janitor who comments on school board policy. Appearantly the age of information, individuallism and narcissism evolved a large wad of uneducated know-it-all pussies.
LOL I love "illegal war, persued for one man's ego". What if Roosvelt's men said that? Better yet, what if Roosvelt's marines read that confused man's writings? If this is a real Marine, how did he come to speak in such clear anti-Bush/anti-war terms? "illegal war", "unwinnable war", attacking the patriot act, Stalinistic tactics... As for "protecting the constitution"...maybe he missed the part of the ceremony where they said "against all threats foreign and domestic". I thought active duty military personnel are prohibited from writing libel against their commander in chief. I bet some gay internet leftist wrote this crap. If this is truly the work of a Marine, much of his "knowledge" and "opinions" came from the internet and the glorious propaganda machine of the left. Blog away, so our Marines can read it. 
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06-25-2007, 12:54 AM
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Iraq War Veteran Speaks Out Against Iraq Occupation
YouTube - Iraq War Veteran Speaks Out Against Iraq Occupation Iraq War Veteran Speaks out on Killing Civilians YouTube - Iraq War Veteran Speaks out on Killing Civilians US Army Lt. Stands Up Against Illegal War In Iraq YouTube - US Army Lt. Stands Up Against Illegal War In Iraq Anti-war Iraq veteran speaks out YouTube - Anti-war Iraq veteran speaks out "Soldiers Speak Out" Trailer YouTube - "Soldiers Speak Out" Trailer The Killing of Children, That's What War Is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVmpF...elated&search= US SOLDIER ADMITS TO RAPE IN IRAQ!! YouTube - US SOLDIER ADMITS TO RAPE IN IRAQ!! Iraqi Women Raped By US Soilders full video on auhit.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuGEh...elated&search= US soldiers murdered the entire family to rape 14 year girl. YouTube - US soldiers murdered the entire family to rape 14 year girl. Last edited by POWERJIM; 06-25-2007 at 01:15 AM.
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06-25-2007, 07:38 PM
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Funny how you libs chronicle each and every deviation that agrees with your "cause" and present it as evidence or some sort of beacon of reality. Yet, you look past the other 99.99% of the Armed Forces who don't think this way.
Your links are all equally absurd. As much as you want to believe in the "modern gestapo" or whatever your signature says, it doesn't exist, and every educated person knows it. As much as you want to believe that our Marines "hate the war", its also, to your inconvenience, untrue. What else you got?
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06-25-2007, 07:47 PM
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na fue...
im sorry, but you're an idiot.
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06-25-2007, 08:15 PM
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Im not saying i buy in to any conspiracies or argue against them...... what i am saying is people, politicians, governments do have cover-ups, they pervert the truth, we get lied to, deal with it. This day in age, i think literally anything is possible, its not a good sign that i hardly am ever surprised any more.
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06-25-2007, 11:30 PM
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As for this thread, I can cite a hundred times more evidence to debunk POWERJIM's entire platform but I won't because frankly, its childish to argue that the U.S. government bears resemblence to the Gestapo. I don't care enough about this. Anyways, there exists a certain balance between what you buy into and what you don't. Thats called common sense. Perhaps its not me who needs to excercise common sense, rather the person regergitating the leftist blogger at face value (hint err). How come if I disagree, I'm an idiot. Am I too blind to see the obvious? lol As for "questioning what I'm told", I can differentiate reality from BS. IE: What your saying is BS. There you go, I questioned what I was told. Why don't YOU question what your told, cause chances are your looking at one goofy source, and have to ignore facts in order to "believe" in what you believe. Thats fine. The UN is a do-nothing body of pontificators who line their own pockets. What else is new. The U.S. does what it needs to do to live a better day tomorrow. What are you guys trying to uncover exactly? Better start with the missing link. Last edited by na_feu; 06-25-2007 at 11:41 PM.
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06-25-2007, 11:45 PM
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06-28-2007, 04:04 AM
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"FEMA Concentration Camps are being setup for you. "
^ has to be the most ridiculous thing in any signature I've seen on this board. If identified, an active duty military member speaking out against the Commander in Chief will be punished. It happens several times a year, and has happened to every rank from E-1 to O-10 in the past 15 years. In any case - its a damn good thing there was no real media coverage (imbedded reporters, 24 hr news stations, real time video) in WW1 or WW2 - or none of us may be around or able to blog away.
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