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Dont mind Mr. Larkin, has has special needs and rode the short bus going to school.
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I dont even know where to start. There is so much garbage in this thread. All this physics BS. There is no way that man can actually prove something that happened millions of years ago, even with calculated evidence. satan's main job is to sway you from the truth, to cause confusion so you dont believe in the Holy Trinity (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). I will just say that the bible is very accurate. EVERY prophecy about Jesus has come true thus far, except for the rapture, armageddon, etc, which are still to come. Prophecies made way before Jesus' existence have come true even after his death. Are these just lucky guesses? NO! They are actual accounts in the BIBLE taken from real events and writings. I just have to say that if you dont believe in Jesus, then you are a fool. Im passionate about my beliefs, and I wont refrain from spreading them to avoid stepping on your toes.
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lol at bg=ld, and Vbignate. right onman, Proverbs says only the fool has said in his heart there in no God.
And talking about Bible credibility, kind of continuing from my earlier post. heres some interesting stuff. This is chopped up a little... ARCHAEOLOGY is not about faith. Its purpose is not to make us believe or to not believe in the Bible. We already do or we don't. It does not prove or disprove the Bible. The Bible stands by itself and does not need the support of modern scientific study. The Bible is about living, archaeology is not. So who needs it? What does archaeology have to do with the Bible? First of all, archaeology provides a general background to the events of the Bible. Everything in the Bible, all of its personalities, occurred in the context of their own particular environment or geographical setting. A simple reading of the Bible does not always show the significance of the situation in which the narrative takes place. Often knowing about the location where something occurred will help us to understand why a statement in the Bible was made. When we can get behind a statement, we can begin to discover some of the nuances of the Bible. In addition, the Dead Sea Scrolls have helped to underscore the hand of God in getting his word down to us over a period of hundreds of years. The story of how we got the Bible is very interesting. You might expect that with all copies that were made of it by hand before Guttenberg ever got his hands on it, many words might have been changed, been added or dropped altogether for all kinds of reasons. But, when the Old Testament texts that were found among the Dead Sea Scrolls were examined, we found that they for the most part, verified the earliest version we had up to that point. And the Scrolls are 1000 years older than that. Finally, archaeology strengthens the historical credibility of the Bible. It constrains the imaginings of those who would make the Bible just an interesting collection of folklore. Archaeology has contributed substantially to the historicity of the Bible overall. Discoveries such as the water tunnel beneath Jerusalem dug by King Hezekiah, the Well of Jacob where Jesus spoke to the Samaritan woman, the Pool of Bethesda where Jesus healed a crippled man, the stone in the Roman theater at Caesarea inscribed with the name of Pilate, the tribunal at Corinth where Paul was tried, and the theater at Ephesus where the riot of silversmiths occurred, to name a few, help to give historical credibility to the Bible. Archaeology, like all academic disciplines, does not exist in a vacuum. It influences and is influenced by other fields of study. When Biblical studies and archaeology intersect, they are both enlightened by the combination. There is no doubt that the events of the Bible are firmly rooted in general world history. Even so, there are still many questions to answer. There are still many sites that need to be studied and excavated further and many more that are yet to be excavated at all.
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GOOD POST!
And also to BigNate and PJ
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You are completely missing the point.
i am not questioning the history of events i'm sure that some of them are true, what i am questioning is the thread title. for starters Smallfry, you are giving an absolute ("i know there is a god") the facts still remain that there is no proof, so you dont know!! i cannot for one second say "god does not exist" because i dont know, neither does anyone else and just like you all try to support the bible with facts and figures i too can do the same against it. VB-Nate, you say that anyone who does not believe in god is a fool, it is you that are the fool for also believing in an absolute.. Even if something where to happen to me now, be it, a near death experience, seeing a white light, being touched by the so called hand of god, anything that religious people would say is god, would still not make me say, "oh yeah it must be god" i cant think like that, why? because i am limiting myself to the billions of possibilities that could be out there. It hard for me to try and comment on this subject since i seem to be the only one here that is sceptical, but i am trying my hardest to make people understand the possibility that god may or may not exist. If someone can provide 1 million percent that god exists and i'll eat my hat and believe but no-one can, NO-ONE!!
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You are missing the point Mr. Larkin.....WE DO KNOW! Notice the only people in existance that dont KNOW for ABSOLUTE are the ones who have not taken a step in faith. I repeat the ONLY ones......who dont have an ABSOLUTE are the one who question his existance.......and choose to spend their energy proving he isnt there ...than putting thier energy into seeking him.
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To me, honestly, believing in God just so you can be in heaven is the wrong reason to be religious. Maybe that's not what you meant but I'm just saying. I think religion (regardless of God, or any other higher beings) should be there to guide you becoming a better person, hence you'll enter heaven as a good person, not just because you believe.
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i have seen fear tactics used (threatening someone with hell) to talk to people, and its just sad to be honest. ministry should be relational. based on love and compassion and a desire to find the truth, not a numbers game or scaring someone into it.
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I agree.. I believe when people say that God is within them or talking to them, and i also believe that everyone is a part of God, if not God himself. That is why, when youre told God is watching, i think it literally means you're watching yourself. Not sure if that makes sense, i'm a bit sleepy.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you marry a Christina or a catholic, you have to convert into their religion? If it's true, that's one thing I don't like.
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warning my boring thoughts.
It's hard for me to decide, yes or no. I have thought about this subject for the last couple years on and off. I have not done much research just talked to some close friends about god once or twice. When I took my biology courses on evolution it really interested me, and I got right into it. At this minute I do not believe, just because I dont think the earth is 5-6 thousand years old like you guys say it was in the bible. I would like to think I can change my mind at any time.There is no way possible (IN MY MIND) that the earth is a few thousand years old like you say, and there IS proof of this just like when you posted proof of it being 'young'. It really pisses me off when someone who believes in god says to me if you don't then you will burn in hell. wtf!!! GOOD then I can cook my chicken breasts easier LOL  There is this guy on TV he cures people then knocks them down with a touch, totally fake. I bet if I went there he wont be knocking me down :] I have a lot of other thoughts/stories like after life which I somewhat believe in, and ghosts and such. Kind of makes me a hypocrite I know, but im only 18 and have time to think about this. If your reading this im really sorry to bore you 
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