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05-17-2007, 03:23 PM
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ecstasy
i really dont know if this is an appropriate thread to discuss here
on these forums, please admins delete it if you see a problem with it. Regard my age and all that. Awhile ago i was doing abunch of searching on this drug. As far as i have seen, the only very serious negative side effect is that "Ecstasy damages brain cells by causing the nerve branches and nerve endings to degenerate. These cells then regrow abnormally, failing to reconnect to some brain areas or connecting elsewhere to the wrong areas. It is as if the brain switchboard was torn apart, then rewired backwards." I have been wondering if there is any other very real serious problems with this. Or your thoughts about it. 
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05-17-2007, 03:34 PM
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While a 'few' damaged brain cells may not seem like a very big price to pay for an evening of fun. I can assure you that the collective damage over the years will catch up.
Having come from a very wild background I am now seeing the problems with some of my old party friends cognitive functions. Many of them are only in their mid 40's and are already showing signs of memory problems. A few are definitely showing signs of slowed/delayed reaction time. And a couple are also showing signs of problems with their speach. You play ... you most certainly will pay.
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05-17-2007, 05:38 PM
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Ecstasy is a pretty hard drug believe it or not. I used to do my fair share and it had me hooked in no time. I believe it is worse for you than you think. It heats up your body to levels that are unsafe and the stuff is cut with meth or coke. If your into fitness at all than kiss your gains goodbye and say hello to skinny. Its not worth the high if you weigh out the danger. I'm just speaking from my experiance with it. I used to hallucinate every time I was rollin and thats not good for the brain! My advice is to stay away.
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05-17-2007, 08:18 PM
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Moderation with this drug is key.
I would recommind no more than 6 crazy parties a year, but this is very difficult to do because it is one helluva good time. Infact, I will be going to a rave on Sunday that is going to be HUGE! I'm talking like 10,000 beautiful people that all want to party like animals. MDMA is the main thing you want... because it is very, VERY low in toxicity, and it causes NO known physical/mental damage. It is a very clean and beautiful drug in truth. You usually get mdma in caps or as powder. But! XTC is always sold in pressed pills. Now, what any smart drug user would want is an X pill that is 100% MDMA. But nowadays that is basicaly unheard of. It is almost impossible to know what is in your pills because they usually have other garbage drugs in them like methamphetamine... Meth is what will short circuit a few wires in your brain... its disgusting. The problem is that the majority of X pills always have meth in them... along with maybe 50% MDMA and a % of something else, usually MDA (a more trippy version of MDMA, which aint bad). Sometimes there will be K, which is another drug all on its own, that doesnt put holes in your head or anything, but its just not something you want to be doing without your knowledge. The reason the way things are like this, is because many of the head honchos of the drug game... or should i say the chemists... are fukin losers who are all looking for the way to make the most profits. So basicaly my friend: -keep researching -be smart -dont party too much (extreme moderation)
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05-17-2007, 08:24 PM
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Also know that rolling on XTC causes your serotonin levels to deplete temporarily.
You will feel like a sack of empty ****.. literaly. You will feel like "nothing". You will have gone from having the best time of your life, to have the most useless and dead time of your life. Serotonin is the chemical in the brain that is responsible for regulating things like mood, sleep, hunger. When your serotonin levels are low, you will basicaly be in a pretty much "neutral" mood... an empty one, which is most certainly the crapiest mood to be in. It's like feeling like an empty void and it sucks. Remember... moderation is key and youll be alright. Just stay smart, know what you're putting in your mouth and be real with yourself. And yea if you spend every weekend partying on XTC you will lose weight, muscle, fat, everything. So just dont roll every weekend. Do it very sparsely if you can. Last edited by TorontoMoFo; 05-17-2007 at 08:27 PM.
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05-17-2007, 10:07 PM
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there are various other dangers assiciated with the adverse use and over stimulation of the CNS, loss of sleep and appetite that come with it. all of those things are bad in themselves. you gotta look at the side-effects of the smaller things as well as the more known things associated with it.
toronto has it right with 'moderation'. and reliable sources are always a must with anything you buy.
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05-18-2007, 12:21 AM
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the average pill weighs around 2g.... the average pill were i come from costs £2.00 and trust me its good stuff! in fact if you buy a 100 E's you can get them for around £1 each in bulk.... now lets say that you cut the raw materials of the pill with coke  half a gram of coke costs on average around £20 (pounds not dollars) can you see my point...... what crazy ****ed up drug dealer is gonna start cutting a dirt cheap drug with one that has a celebrity price tag... its like me going out... buying a 5 ounce gold necklace for £500 and then spraying it silver and selling it AS silver.... it dont make sense........ now on the other hand it is very popular for dealers to cut COKE WITH PILLS and sell it AS COKE as you can see if they did that theyd hit around 6-700% profit on each sale!!!  another thing like this what pisses me off is all these old time smokers saying that they wont smoke todays skunk/cannabis they will only smoke weed. they wont touch skunk because "its sprayed with crack" again a ridiculous concept......."OH HOLD ON ILL JUST GET THIS 8TH OF SKUNK WORTH £20 AND ILL SPRAY IT WITH £20 WORTH OF CRACK AND THEN ILL GO SELL IT FOR £20 ANYWAY" SPECULATION SPECULATION SPECULATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
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05-18-2007, 02:41 AM
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If your an idiot you can overheat of overhydrate and die. Also the comedowns are pretty ****ty.
But ye mdma is a better thing to take if you know the dealer well as its less likly to be cut with as much **** as they put into pills these days.
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05-18-2007, 08:07 AM
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Im with hawk on this.. YOU PLAY, YOU PAY!!! In your youth you feel invincible but it will follow you as you age. And it only takes once...one bad trip.....JUST ONE and your life will change forever or cease, for that matter. Is it really worth the risk. ANd lets say you get thru your lil ride just fine....As hawk mentioned, its likely you will see residual affects later in life.
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05-18-2007, 08:11 AM
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I did my share of ecstasy. I always wanted it to make me feel like I was taking acid though. So then I would take ecstasy & acid. Eventually I figured out the $20 a pill was stupid and $5 for acid was all I needed
 And yes, I certainly feel the effects of partying hard for those years.
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05-18-2007, 09:59 AM
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I don't normally comment on these topics, but this one hit home a little since I buried a very good college friend way too soon over it.
I don't care what anyone says...there's no such thing as a "safe way" to do ecstasy, or any other illegal drug, because the effects will catch up to you. If you choose to do it, you will later have to deal with the consequences of doing it. Can you live with the consequences?
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05-18-2007, 10:36 AM
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05-18-2007, 10:45 AM
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If they cut an ecstacy (MDMA) pills with something here you have your choice : MDA, DMZ, DXM, Ketamine, (meth)Amphetamine, Cafféine, Ephedrine, etc. Those are all less expensive then MDMA (pure xtc --> Note that if you are in amsterdam that may not even be the case as MDMA from amsterdam is cheap as HELL too... It's not cheap in America cause it's pretty damn hard to import and it is NOT produced that much in the inside.) and are used to give the "about same effect" but much more side effect. As a dealer I would never use a more expensive drug (in Canada/USA, coke is more expensive then MDMA in some other countries it's not the case.) then the one I put in a pills to cut it, this is a fact. UNLESS you want to create addiction in which case : heroin(opioids) has been used sometimes. COKE is sometime cut with Amphetamine (the effect are apparant and amphetamine are cheap as hell) but not with methylenedioxymethamphetamine(xtc) nor MDMA. Meth is sometimes cut with (meth)Amphetamine, coke, heroin. I hope this clears things up.
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05-18-2007, 02:37 PM
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when i was seventeen i spent a month in rehab. there is NO such thing as a nonaddictive drug. weed is even addictive. good weed which isn't laced with anything, i'm talking pure weed is still addictive, not to all, but to some. some drugs like coke contain chemicals in them that will get YOU addicted to the drug. but some people have the brain make up that will addict the DRUG to THEM. it's risky but i'd say try it. but if you start to think about it out of the blue then you probably have an addictive personality. someone with an addictive personality (and i'd like to bet the majority of the people on this site do have one) are usually obsessive compulsive, have anxiety, bored easily, and depressed.)
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05-18-2007, 03:03 PM
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sorry if i touched a nerve!! i can sense the tension in your post..... wether you said METH or COKE you still said COKE... I dont see how the fact you set METH or COKE changes anything?????????? im not diggin at you im just saying its a ludicrous concept to mix coke in with a pill and then sell it for half the price!! why did you take that so personaly.... i never ever said YOU WERE WRONG.... I said that the concept of mixing those 2 drugs and selling them as E's was ridiculous.... if you ask me i think you have a complex of feeling threatened and insecure. my post was written in good spirit, shame te reply wasnt... but then again i geuss im wrong?
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05-18-2007, 03:16 PM
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If you do anything more than WEED, you are a fvcken loser in my book.
And dont give me no sh!t about "drugs are ok in moderation".. Meth heads, coke freaks, heroin addicts, E-holics and all the rest, they make me sick. Fcken scumbags are just killing yourselves softly, not too mention all the rest of society that pays the price for their bullsh!t..The Family members, the friends, the victims of their theivery, etc..etc..They are just the scum of the earth. I've seen it turn good people into piece of ****s that you wouldnt turn your back on for a second. But I do think smoking weed in moderation is perfectly ok, but weed to me is not a drug and thats whole nother long topic. Fvck E
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05-18-2007, 03:22 PM
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I use "regular" weed when i was in highschool regurlarly but never was addicted. I was more addicted w/ cigarettes. And IMO weed aint a drug.
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