ecstasy

[Cammo]

Originally Posted by TorontoMoFo

We'll you see, it was not the bridge itself that killed you, it was the choice to jump off it that did.

Same as the choice to not drink water while rolling.. might kill you. Not the mdma itself.

This is bullsh*t.

If you hadn't taken the mdma in first place, you wouldn't heat up.

It's like saying "it's not the fire that burnt down the house, it's the fact that we didn't put it out fast enough"

What a crock!

[Papasmurf]

The past few pages are a perfect example of what users do- constantly try to rationalize drugs. People read crap posted by other users on the internet and use that as rationale for doing drugs. The only thing more common is saying "Oh alcohol does the same stuff." I dont recall this conversation ever being about alcohol?

[TorontoMoFo]

Originally Posted by Cammo

This is bullsh*t.

If you hadn't taken the mdma in first place, you wouldn't heat up.

It's like saying "it's not the fire that burnt down the house, it's the fact that we didn't put it out fast enough"

What a crock!

it is. i agree.

what yo have to realize is that MDMA itself does not KILL. It's IMPOSSIBLE to OD of MDMA alone.

People have never ODed off the drug alone. They have died of a combination of taking dirty X pills, dancing for HOURS and not drinking a drop of water. It is their irresponsibilty that killed them. Not only that, i would urge anybody with a source relating to a RECENT E oversode. Within the last year.

Just like a stupid driver speeds in a busy street and crashes, killing himself with 2 other people. Was it the car or their stupidity?

Be fukin smart.

If you like to party hard, do it, just do it smart.

[Papasmurf]

Originally Posted by TorontoMoFo

We'll you see, it was not the bridge itself that killed you, it was the choice to jump off it that did.

Same as the choice to not drink water while rolling.. might kill you. Not the mdma itself.

Not really. The choice didnt literally kill you- the fall did. When you overdose on E, you cause yourself extreme dehydration. The only thing that causes that is the E, your lack of drinking might add to it- but had you not been rolling on E, you MOST DEFINITELY would not be NEARLY as dehydrated- i think i prove my point on that one. And referring to your next post, i dont think cammo was agreeing with you. An E overdose is characterized by several factors, including extreme dehydration. Cocaine OD's are characterized by **** like heart attacks- so when you OD on coke, does that mean it was the coke, it was your poor heart condition? because you didnt pop a couple bayers? No. Plain and simple- E overdoses can kill you. In a sense you are right- its the choice to take E that kills you. No matter how you slice it- you take a person sitting on a couch watching TV, and a person on a couch watching tv while rolling, and the only one who will be in danger of grave dehyrdration is the one rolling.

[hollywood473]

With ex you are also facing dehydration's. Not to mention that often ex has "extras". What I mean is that the dealer might add more things to it such as Chlorine or windex.

[hatz]

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

If you do anything more than WEED, you are a fvcken loser in my book.
And dont give me no sh!t about "drugs are ok in moderation"..

Meth heads, coke freaks, heroin addicts, E-holics and all the rest, they make me sick.
Fcken scumbags are just killing yourselves softly, not too mention all the rest of society that pays the price for their bullsh!t..The Family members, the friends, the victims of their theivery, etc..etc..They are just the scum of the earth. I've seen it turn good people into piece of ****s that you wouldnt turn your back on for a second.

But I do think smoking weed in moderation is perfectly ok, but weed to me is not a drug and thats whole nother long topic.

Fvck E

Couldnt say it better myself.

[vassille]

Interesting discussion, but what I do not understand is why anybody at 15-25 years old needs hard drugs when your bodies and especially the brain is still developing?
It kind of makes sense to not get involved with any drugs IMO

I remember being bored and having too much energy as a teenager so I drunk and smoked cigarettes a little but stayed away from hard drugs.

It is a life altering decission to do drugs at a young age, one that will stick with you for a long time especially if you happen to have an addictive personality

[landzw]

Well i just had a quick , its pretty clear that most of have used some sort of drug in our days

How many of you have actual problems from taking drugs , mentally or physically ?

I remember my first days of smoking and i just couldn`t stop laughing , then over time i moved onto speed , pills , trips , coke , other prescription drugs

After only a 3 year of pure partying it happened ! i was never alone again ! schizophrenia had moved in , i lost all my friends , i stopped going out , i became trapped in my own world .

It took me a further full year to get of the drugs but still mentally i was shot !
over a further 3 years or so ive worked hard sorting my head out , at times i still gets a little twitchy when i`m around people who have taken drugs

I would like to say stay away from drugs but i guess we all have to make our own decisions in life but saying that the statistics for increasing metal problems within our society are starting to show

[BlackWinterDay]

man, I d ecstasy years back at a rave...that's right I went to a rave...woke up in the backseat of my car with a girl named Tracy, took her out to Ihop for breakfast and never heard from her again...Don't even remember that night...so yeah, I'd say it damages brain cells.

[Hannainnc]

Originally Posted by landzw

Well i just had a quick , its pretty clear that most of have used some sort of drug in our days

How many of you have actual problems from taking drugs , mentally or physically ?

I remember my first days of smoking and i just couldn`t stop laughing , then over time i moved onto speed , pills , trips , coke , other prescription drugs

After only a 3 year of pure partying it happened ! i was never alone again ! schizophrenia had moved in , i lost all my friends , i stopped going out , i became trapped in my own world .

It took me a further full year to get of the drugs but still mentally i was shot !
over a further 3 years or so ive worked hard sorting my head out , at times i still gets a little twitchy when i`m around people who have taken drugs

I would like to say stay away from drugs but i guess we all have to make our own decisions in life but saying that the statistics for increasing metal problems within our society are starting to show

woah....I hope you can continue to keep away from drugs.