ecstasy

[Weecrack]

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

I understand your point brother, but causing Asthma?
Marijuana does not cause asthma. It may make it worse if you have it, no doubt.

And of course your lungs will not be as strong as someone who doesnt smoke.
BUT, that doesnt mean you cant still have strong lungs.

I used to run for miles and smoked daily, never affected me.

But to each his own.

Look, I wouldnt preach to anyone to start using pot, I just refuse to accept the bad publicity it has obtained and it's not as worse as soceity thinks and myths like cancer have been proven wrong.

So perhaps it's not a good thing to do, but it certainly is not as bad as some are making it out to be - Thats my point.

So to use it or not to use it needs to be evaluated by each individual.
Some need to use it for medical reasons and that is perfectly acceptable in all cases.

But drugs like coke, E, metch, etc...Those are hardcore drugs and never should be used as they destroy you and everyone you come in contact with.
Point said.

Ill agree with you on the point of other drugs...

All those chemicals are far worse than smoking pot, i know from first hand....

The side effects found from pot def is not as bad as for inctance, coke, dope, or meth......



And ill admit when i usta get stomach pains pot always curbed them.....

But like you said everybody takes it a diffrent way i guess, i had my negative expierences with it not to do it anymore, and i dont go around telling people its goint to kill you, cause its probally not unless its laced,

But i just wanted to put into perspective, thats everything has somewhat of a negative impact no matter what it is....

[BiggerGuns=LongerDrives]

Originally Posted by Weecrack

But i just wanted to put into perspective, thats everything has somewhat of a negative impact no matter what it is....

I agree with this, no doubt

[Papasmurf]

I dont do any drugs, nor do i associate with those who do. Drinking in moderation is one thing, drugs however have serious negative consequences.

[NPayette]

Originally Posted by Papasmurf

I dont do any drugs, nor do i associate with those who do. Drinking in moderation is one thing, drugs however have serious negative consequences.

What are those "Serious negative consequences" associated with drugs used in moderation (I am talking every couple of weeks, month.) that are worst then alcohol??

Do you think you are better then them?

Anyway out of it, I hate when people decide to judge simply because they don't do it theirselves.

There is extreme case in everything which is a problem. There's moderation in everything and it can be a good thing.

I am not recommending it to anyone, but will never judge someone because he is doing it unless he is hurting others while doing it --> WHICH IS NOT the case in the majority of the drug user that I know of. Including myself.

[eeeeee!]

does Merck still manufacture the "ecstasy"? i would think so, but not sure.
so the only real problem with ecstasy is that it may or probably is cut
with more harmful drugs?
and if pure ecstasy is safe, why was it made illegal? is that because
people started puttin bad sh!t in it?

[NPayette]

Originally Posted by eeeeee!

does Merck still manufacture the "ecstasy"? i would think so, but not sure.
so the only real problem with ecstasy is that it may or probably is cut
with more harmful drugs?
and if pure ecstasy is safe, why was it made illegal? is that because
people started puttin bad sh!t in it?

No in fact it's not Illegal, it's used as a medication to treat depression in certain countries.

It has been made illegal because with abusive use it can be dangerous for health. And now what we find called E is mixed with DANGEROUS cheaper chemical substance associated with some of the nastiest side effect of the so called xtc.

[Weecrack]

Techinically its not "Extacy" Its called MDMA.......

And pure MDMA, dosent have the side Effects As the Illicit "Extacy"

Dont get me Wrong, like i said before, everythign has its positives and negatives....

[NPayette]

Originally Posted by Weecrack

Techinically its not "Extacy" Its called MDMA.......

And pure MDMA, dosent have the side Effects As the Illicit "Extacy"

Dont get me Wrong, like i said before, everythign has its positives and negatives....

well the other way around, pure extacy is called mdma anyway you got my point. The stuff on the street contains between 0-70% mdma in it.

in america the pure stuff is expensive as hell to import and very dangerous to make.

[Weecrack]

Actually i Know The street terms around here im in the newark Nj area in the usa, Pure Mdma Is Known As "Molleys" ..

But as regards to what you said, I didnt mean it For your Post But The One Above

[Papasmurf]

Originally Posted by NPayette

No in fact it's not Illegal, it's used as a medication to treat depression in certain countries.

It has been made illegal because with abusive use it can be dangerous for health. And now what we find called E is mixed with DANGEROUS cheaper chemical substance associated with some of the nastiest side effect of the so called xtc.

Sounds like you are using the legality of the original substance to make it sound less harmful. Fact is, anti-depressants are some of the most powerful psychological chemicals on the planet, and have very specific uses. Only people with severe depression have any use for them, and even for those people they still have side effects.

[Papasmurf]

Originally Posted by NPayette

What are those "Serious negative consequences" associated with drugs used in moderation (I am talking every couple of weeks, month.) that are worst then alcohol??

Do you think you are better then them?

Anyway out of it, I hate when people decide to judge simply because they don't do it theirselves.

There is extreme case in everything which is a problem. There's moderation in everything and it can be a good thing.

I am not recommending it to anyone, but will never judge someone because he is doing it unless he is hurting others while doing it --> WHICH IS NOT the case in the majority of the drug user that I know of. Including myself.

Maybe i worded that post wrong. Drinking is something that most countries do, and for the most part, its unavoidable. I dont condone binge drinking or anything like that, i just recognize that it is prevalent in ALL kinds of people and literally unavoidable. However, in my experience, not only do i just seem to not get along with drug users (i think most of them are losers), but the negative legal and social connotations that go along with them are enough to keep me away.

Edit: The serious negative consequences? Lets see, not being able to get a decent job because you cant pass a drug test, getting busted for having a dimebag in your pocket and getting arrested, driving while being a little high and getting a DUI to name a few? How about having your child need emergency medical attention and you are under the influence and cant do it properly? These are all real life things ive seen happen myself. When i used to use in my teen years, i am thankful now that i got out of the drug culture without and consequences. And besides, havent you been arrested for drugs? Im not sure where you are from, but in america, theres plenty of consequences, more than just physical ones.

[gatorguy]

Dont do it kid its one of the worse drugs. Alot are so dirty with Heroin.

your not going to be able to get mdma, though i knwo you can get someone to sell you pure mdma. Get my point. Your going to get some crappy **** so laced with bad ****. yeah it will mess you up but it could kill you and will damage your brain. You will be a loser with no future.

the funniest thing about drugys or people who smoke weed is that they think EVERYONE else does. It seems that way to them because that is the world they are surrounded by.

Once you do this drug parties will no longer be fun without being high. I know you will probably do it and honestly i dont care that much. But you should be mature and not do it. When you grow up you will look back and be proud of yourself.



Some good info
Ecstasy / MDMA / methylenedioxymethamphetamine : Informationxchange at Stuartxchange

[Taekwondo Guy]

I dont know if its the same case in the US but ecstasy tablets in the UK are cut with fillers and reformed the further it goes down the chain and passes a new pair of hands. i.e. the more people to handle the drug, the weaker it gets.

so people take half or a full tab and carry on their merry way. Then they come across a tablet thats:

1) stronger mix, only cut once or pure a tab and they O.D. This has happened a few times in the UK when dealers switch sources, overdoses are popular newspaper material here.

2) its cut with fillers that are harmful such as rat poison or other chemicals to give your body a preverbial 'kick in the nuts'.

[narcsarge]

I am going to through my narcotics experience in here. Anyone that takes some sort of pill or capsule or granular "drug" is playing Russian Roulette. Unless you are absolutely certain your getting the real drug, taking dope is just plain crazy. You have no idea what your buying, though you think you do. You have no idea what "cuts" have been made and what chemicals have been used. I'll give an example:

All of us BB'ers know about Ephedra right? Ephedra was over-the-counter stuff until some genius figured out a way to cook it down and make crank, ice, methamphetamine, call it what you will. What most people don't know is that the cooking process usually involves a cutting agent of say, clear fuel (ie: Coleman camping fuel), and phospheric acid. Who in their right mind would ingest either of those 2 substances. To make matters worse, at least with Methamphetamine production, the byproduct of this "cooking" is red phosphorous cake. This cake can explode with just simple agitation. Methlabs are routinely found, the area sealed, and a Hazmat team from the EPA is called to dispose of the crap!

My 2 cents.

[Papasmurf]

I have to especially agree with the post a few above this one.... When someone does drugs, they seem to think everyone does. And its pretty far from the truth.

[NPayette]

Originally Posted by Papasmurf

Maybe i worded that post wrong. Drinking is something that most countries do, and for the most part, its unavoidable. I dont condone binge drinking or anything like that, i just recognize that it is prevalent in ALL kinds of people and literally unavoidable. However, in my experience, not only do i just seem to not get along with drug users (i think most of them are losers), but the negative legal and social connotations that go along with them are enough to keep me away.

Edit: The serious negative consequences? Lets see, not being able to get a decent job because you cant pass a drug test, getting busted for having a dimebag in your pocket and getting arrested, driving while being a little high and getting a DUI to name a few? How about having your child need emergency medical attention and you are under the influence and cant do it properly? These are all real life things ive seen happen myself. When i used to use in my teen years, i am thankful now that i got out of the drug culture without and consequences. And besides, havent you been arrested for drugs? Im not sure where you are from, but in america, theres plenty of consequences, more than just physical ones.

All of your consequences that you did underline can happen even with alcohol except for the being busted. And I don't know how it works in your country but we can't get arrested with a dimebag in our pocket except if they have a <mandat> to check on ourself here in Canada.

I don't condone it but I won't judge somebody who takes an e once in a while worst then somebody who get drunk once in a while. To each his own.

[eeeeee!]

you would be suprised of how pure a pill you can get.
ive done my research. the pure kind isnt very harmful.
no it doesnt poke holes through your brain.
and the amount of meth in a tab isnt going to be
a ton of meth, heroin. its not gauranteed youll get
either one of those. you dont die from mdma. you die
from dehydration. ive read that as many as 2 or so
people have died purely from taking ecstasy.
your way more likely to die from alcohol.
but im still on the hunt for some e.

[Caferacer]

Originally Posted by eeeeee!

you would be suprised of how pure a pill you can get.
ive done my research. the pure kind isnt very harmful.
no it doesnt poke holes through your brain.
and the amount of meth in a tab isnt going to be
a ton of meth, heroin. its not gauranteed youll get
either one of those. you dont die from mdma. you die
from dehydration. ive read that as many as 2 or so
people have died purely from taking ecstasy.
your way more likely to die from alcohol.
but im still on the hunt for some e.

Lmao, thats like saying jumping off a building doesn't kill you, it's the sudden stop at the bottom.