ecstasy

[eeeeee!]

thank you all very much for your input!
i appreciate it. and special thanks to torontomofo
for that information.
that is what i planned on doing.
moderating the use of it, not overdoing it.

im in highschool. so (some) of you may know how
highschool experimentation goes. me personally, im
very sure just to keep it at that and nothing more.

if i do plan on taking e atleast once a month,
i will be sure to get one of those dance safe kits.
i dont think ill do it that much though.

just a curious teen. haha.
i dont party that much at all. i dont drink/smoke/eat pills on a
regular basis. on a rare basis i do things.

but anyways.
Thank you all very much for posting.
I appreciate it greatly!

[Lifter101]

What's the diff between a weed high and a ectasy high? or a coke high? I've never used any drug. I guess i'm not a loser head. hahaha

[Caferacer]

Originally Posted by NPayette

Regarding rec. drug I know pretty much.
If they cut an ecstacy (MDMA) pills with something here you have your choice :
MDA, DMZ, DXM, Ketamine, (meth)Amphetamine, Cafféine, Ephedrine, etc.
Those are all less expensive then MDMA (pure xtc --> Note that if you are in amsterdam that may not even be the case as MDMA from amsterdam is cheap as HELL too... It's not cheap in America cause it's pretty damn hard to import and it is NOT produced that much in the inside.) and are used to give the "about same effect" but much more side effect.

As a dealer I would never use a more expensive drug (in Canada/USA, coke is more expensive then MDMA in some other countries it's not the case.) then the one I put in a pills to cut it, this is a fact. UNLESS you want to create addiction in which case : heroin(opioids) has been used sometimes.

COKE is sometime cut with Amphetamine (the effect are apparant and amphetamine are cheap as hell) but not with methylenedioxymethamphetamine(xtc) nor MDMA.

Meth is sometimes cut with (meth)Amphetamine, coke, heroin.

I hope this clears things up.

Yea thats the ****ty thing. A new 'lab' will spring into the scene with low prices and relatively pure pills, and as the popularity and credibility increase, they begin cutting the pills with other things that are more dangerous in conjunction with mdma. Thats usually how the cycle grows.

It's ****ty, and because of that, if there were ANY drug I were going to touch, it wouldn't be X. Go get yourself some green and just chill

[smallfry]

just a quick question, Why or How is weed not a drug? it gets you "high".
its illegal. I've done my fair share of drugs, and i can say iv been more focused and alert when i was methed out than when i was baked. Now that being, my opinion now is that noone should ever do any drug for any reason. but again, just curious, to those who posted it...how is weed not a drug?

[csmith3518]

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

But I do think smoking weed in moderation is perfectly ok, but weed to me is not a drug and thats whole nother long topic.

Fvck E

I completely agree with this. Weed isnt going to cause you problems for the rest of your life, I dont really think having fun for one night is worth possibly fcuk!ng up your brain with meth or something being cut in it

[Will100]

weed is ok in my books (i smoke pot sometimes) and personally i see no need to go anything harder...to me theres nothin better then feeling chill and laughing at nothing...but weed IS a drug, just not a powerful one, and as long as ur not smoking alot everyday u should be ok...but theres 10 times more chemical in 1 weed joint then a cigarette...so heavy long term use can cause cancer...but i dont see why some1 would wanna be high 24\7 like that...that would just make ur life a mess...occasional use just to relax and have fun is good enough for me...pot makes me laugh uncontrollably when im really high, i giggle like a little girl HAHA...i love it tho i cant lie lol

[eeeeee!]

weed is a drug.
personally i dont like weed. the week after i toke
i cant think clearly or respond all that clearly.
haha. i also dont like feeling that "out of body"
type that weed brings. to me anyway. lol.
idk. ecstasy sticks out to me. i like the music
and that sort of thing. so
it makes me kinda want to try some
hehe. im tired as ****. sorry if i say ne thing stupit.
anyone ever had DMT?
i want to try some x, dmt, lsd, shrooms before i die.
damn.

[Traps]

Originally Posted by csmith3518

I completely agree with this. Weed isnt going to cause you problems for the rest of your life, I dont really think having fun for one night is worth possibly fcuk!ng up your brain with meth or something being cut in it

I completely disagree with this. I've seen weed ruin people's lives left and right. When used in every sense of the word "moderation" as in once a week or every couple weeks...month...etc...... It might be ok. But this is an addictive drug, and more often then not, people will drift from moderate use to heavy use (as in everyday). And it is most definately a gateway drug, leading on to experimenting with other high's like X, LSD, shroom, etc.

[jack5r]

Ye in my eyes weed is worse than pills, well the way it is taken in my friendship group anyway. I dont smoke weed at all (weel havnt done for 4 months now). Eight out of ten of my best mates are pretty much addicted to it now. It seems a normaly thing for everyday 5 of them to spend £50 and the stuff so consuming a tens a day on averages. (1.3grams) I have seen the difference in them the last few months. They dont come to college (16-18 year old edgucation) some of the smartest guys i know failing and making jokes about with a hays in their eyes. My best friends out of all of them, the youngest in our group, just turned 15 and still hasnt done his GCSE's major exams you take when your 16 in the UK. Has also took this route and hes still 2 years behind us in life. He misses school all the time, doesnt work, really lazy, i just see people pretty much ruining their lives infront of me everyday. I try to talk to them like why the **** do you really need to spend £10 before school on weed and smoke half of it as soon as you get up then the other half at lunch. They doss around college with their eyes basically closed. My 2nd best mate is the one i talk to the most about this, i tell him come on mate, you've resorted to smokin in it by yourself at once (once seen as the dumbest and most uncool, loser like thing to do about 6 months ago) but now its the norm for my mates.

Now coming to pills. Iv taken them 5 times in the last year. Im doing well in school still i have spent mabie £30 quid on them in a year. My mates spend about that every week on weed. WHERE do these 16 year old boys with NO jobs because they cant get off there ass in any form on life other than friday/saturday nights get their money for this. None of them have resorted to mugging people yet but i can see it coming, i find one 2nd best friend does even worse. Pretty much day light robbery from his mum. He has resorted to things like this. 'Mum i need another hair cut and i want a good one can i have £20' She gives. 'He comes to school with his £20 worth on weed in his pocket and is like lollool my mum is so dumb, let me miss all of todays work and just sit in the park ****ed. Oh now hair cut? na he begged some girl in our year to cut it for him.... 2 weeks later. Phone call while im in class from this boy "il phone u back in 10 mate". Ok but be quick man please. I phone back, "u alright?." "ye man, you see that hair dressers round your area will e give me a cut for £5. I say na i think it might be 6 or 7 cant remeber." "But i need to know! can i get it for £5 iv only got £5 left lol" "im like as a joke why you spend it all on weed or sumin" (hes at home on his own at 11 in the afternoon while he should be at school). "ye man hahah". he says... "im like i think its £6-7 mate" hes like ah man go check please (im at school... and like u go) hes like oh comon man please (hair dressers in 15 mins away) na go yourself, hes like hmm il phone them, get me their number please... "IM AT ****IN SCHOOL". "Ok ok il go now, safe" he says.. Get two more phone calls from him in 30 mins sayin are you sure its 6-7.

FOR YOU this might seem like nothing. But these are my best mates, the people iv grown up with and seeing them like this is ****ed up. Seen from the Matrix now. Take the weed pill like all your mates? Or take E pill? Yes please. Once every few months.

ALso like to mention my mates also take the E's along with coke and stuff. 4 of them, while they should of been in college on thursday, in there hazy bubble thought it would be funny to take Ketamine (horse tranquilizer)

SEE WHAT IM SAYING?

Im not the only one who is in the weed crew, a few mates arnt (not my best oldest friends though) and most the girls we are friends/ boys friends to dont. They all take E's though every now and then. Also they are the ones doing well at school along with me. Not stealing from their parents. Not sitting on their asses all day laughing at how one of them just picked up a empty class and tried to drink from it.

WELL THATS MY STORY

[eeeeee!]

yeah i have seen people different from constant use of weed.
people smoking there lives away in their 30's to 50's.
and friends get more agitated easy. starts to not like people.
stuff like that. great athletes getting into the stuff and going down.
you know. i think weed is sometimes worse than what its portrayed to be.
but thats just me.

[flecks]

take it eeezy

[csmith3518]

Originally Posted by Traps

I completely disagree with this. I've seen weed ruin people's lives left and right. When used in every sense of the word "moderation" as in once a week or every couple weeks...month...etc...... It might be ok. But this is an addictive drug, and more often then not, people will drift from moderate use to heavy use (as in everyday). And it is most definately a gateway drug, leading on to experimenting with other high's like X, LSD, shroom, etc.

I was talking about in moderation. I completely agree that its a gateway drug which can cause people to try harder things, any high isnt worth possibly ruining your brain

[karl]

Originally Posted by Traps

I completely disagree with this. I've seen weed ruin people's lives left and right. When used in every sense of the word "moderation" as in once a week or every couple weeks...month...etc...... It might be ok. But this is an addictive drug, and more often then not, people will drift from moderate use to heavy use (as in everyday). And it is most definately a gateway drug, leading on to experimenting with other high's like X, LSD, shroom, etc.

i completely disagree with this. weed ruin peoples' lives? lol! i am all for marijuana legalization. ugghghhg

[BiggerGuns=LongerDrives]

Weed isnt a "gateway" drug, thats a dam cop out...
If you are going to use hard drugs, you will use them no matter if weed existed or not...
Weed doesnt motivate one to go farther and IT IS NOT A DRUG.
It's about as much of a drug as sugar is.

The facts are if you are a fvcken loser, then weed will make you a bigger fvcken loser, thats what this is all about. So If you are a dumbas$ who cant even get a high school diploma or work at Mcdonalds, maybe you should pass on pot

But If you are a good dude who is motivated and has his head on his shoulders, then weed will not affect you in a negative way. I know a few bodybuilders/lifters with great physiques and they smoke daily. This is a testament that it all a mindset. Losers will always be losers.

I also know plenty of people who hold down aweseome jobs and some who own businesses and make well over $300K a year and they smoke weed DAILY.
I have 2 uncles that run floor covering business and are very well off and they have smoked weed everyday of their lifes since they were teenagers, so you are talking close to 35 years and both are in perfect health and hold down lives that most of you would wish for in a heartbeat.
I will admit they both dont have the best of memories though, that is a clear side effect of Weed, we wont argue that one.

And the latest studies have concluded that it DOES NOT CAUSE CANCER.
The facts are, you can smoke weed everyday of your life and chances are you will live a full normal life.

But do a drug like cocaine, speed, E, acid, etc, etc AND do it everyday of your life and I bet you die well before your time.

[karl]

thats exactly what im saying dude. drugs (especially marijuana) do not "ruin peoples lives". poor stupid highschool dropouts ruin their own lives and blame drugs for their problems instead of taking responsibility for their own actions.

[jack5r]

Disagree Karl. My friends aren't 'high school drop outs.' Iv seen how weed/skunk has changed them. They were ambitious, sporty, in good shape, enjoyed life, smoked a little weed and drank abit on weedends like everyone else. Then it was like ok lets invent something called a 'blaze up' All put in a 10er each and go to someones house after school. Its only once every school week so it wont matter will it. Once a week blaze ups turned from daily blaze ups with people not going to school the next day because they couldnt get up. They go meet up with some friends later and because they are dependent on it buy some more weed. These aren't people that were always lazy and obvious failers. These are people that have changed so much because of weed. You might think well im not smoking it everyday so it doesnt matter, their idiots. Their only idiots for letting it take over and become uncontrolable though. These are friends from all different backgrounds, rich, poor naturally very very smart, naturally great at sport but now its wasted. You might say as people have been saying above oh their just the odd few losers that dont get off their ass in life. Litterally 6 months ago whe nthe weed was on a low it was a completely different story. So weed is fine? It doesnt do anything? I know for a fact that isn't true. Its easy for me and you to say it doesn't do anything with out joint in our mouth once every week or so, because we arn't addicted and for those that are, their in denial anyway as my best friend is....

[NPayette]

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

Weed isnt a "gateway" drug, thats a dam cop out...
If you are going to use hard drugs, you will use them no matter if weed existed or not...
Weed doesnt motivate one to go farther and IT IS NOT A DRUG.
It's about as much of a drug as sugar is.

The facts are if you are a fvcken loser, then weed will make you a bigger fvcken loser, thats what this is all about. So If you are a dumbas$ who cant even get a high school diploma or work at Mcdonalds, maybe you should pass on pot

But If you are a good dude who is motivated and has his head on his shoulders, then weed will not affect you in a negative way. I know a few bodybuilders/lifters with great physiques and they smoke daily. This is a testament that it all a mindset. Losers will always be losers.

I also know plenty of people who hold down aweseome jobs and some who own businesses and make well over $300K a year and they smoke weed DAILY.
I have 2 uncles that run floor covering business and are very well off and they have smoked weed everyday of their lifes since they were teenagers, so you are talking close to 35 years and both are in perfect health and hold down lives that most of you would wish for in a heartbeat.
I will admit they both dont have the best of memories though, that is a clear side effect of Weed, we wont argue that one.

And the latest studies have concluded that it DOES NOT CAUSE CANCER.
The facts are, you can smoke weed everyday of your life and chances are you will live a full normal life.

But do a drug like cocaine, speed, E, acid, etc, etc AND do it everyday of your life and I bet you die well before your time.

From experience, weed is as bad as pills can be.
There's no 100% rules on this. I know people who make 300K$ a year and take ecstacy/coke/speed 2-3 times a week (and also have awesome physique)... It's always a personnal thing.

I prefer a drug that gives me energy then a drug who gets me lazy. Weed gets me smooth and lazy for days after I smoke, this is me, not everybody is like that but MOST I know become lazy with weed.

Anyway your life, your choice. Your price to pay.

[Weecrack]

There is no safe drug and any drug out there will cause some type of impact mentally, physically, and socially, wheather you realize it or not...

I know from persoanl expierence that the Supposed "Xtc" out there is not like the real MDMA that Merck Pharmaceutical company produces.....

To eat his own i guess.....


But i wouldnt decide to choose one drug over another because you believe that it may be safer or it has less side effects....

Or even go as far as to say that all drugs are just as bad as another....

Taking Lsd, Shrooms, Mesculin.... Can no where be classified as smoking a joint....

Same as comparing Coke to heroin, which falls into diffrent classifications as drugs period....

All drug a deteriorating upon the body somehow even weed.... Long term uses of weed can now cause bi polar disorders, and depression when your normal intake is limited or when you stop smoking it, Also there is now facts about a mental dependency upon it now.....

All drugs are bad from the illegal ones you purchas eon the street to the ones your doc decides to give, Its ultimatly your choice on what you decide to do to your body in life, and the side effects you endure wheather you think you feel them or not will be your doin and no others......

[Traps]

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives