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Old 04-19-2007, 05:21 PM
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ya i didnt say what i wanted to properly in my first post(well the one sentence, which apparently makes me a retard)...i corrected myself in the last few posts, u can take the time to read or not, i dont really care

and to be honest BUFF, i dont think you should take any1's advice about your kid unless the person knows your kid...every kid is different and unless some1 knows him then its too difficult to just throw out advice...my advice works for a well adjusted kid (which u said urs is)..it worked for me when i was younger,but ho knows about your kid. but like i said u know your kid best, just dont underestimate his ability to make the right choices...good luck
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Old 04-19-2007, 05:24 PM
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Well you are partially right as the personality they say is formed at a very young age ( I believe once they hit 3-4 it's already formed)
So I now understand what you are saying in that aspect, but you just confused the 2 by putting that with raising your child....2 total differnt things bud.

After 6-7, you are still there as a parent to make sure they dont step out of line and if so, then as a parent you deal with it.
There are rules that need to be enforced as a parent and this goes right up to adulthood of the child

see mindfreak, you coulda just taken a mature and rational approach to your disagreement with what i said like BGLD did. I dont mind people disagreeing with me, i like a good debate. Next time debate, dont bash...follow BGLD's example, hes clearly a mature person
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dude, you said something stupid and then tried to lie about it and say you didnt say it. next time just admit you said something stupid. i guess im not mature because clearly you are retarded
I just came here to give advice, cause a guy wants to be the best father he can. I have read this all, and thought what Will said was silly, I however, can control my "internet temper" and decided to just avoid it. I later read his correction, yes, what he meant to say was not initially said, he acknowledged his mistake, and corrected it. You have just been insulting him the whole time. You are making claims about his lack of maturity because of a communication mistake, but obviously, you don't have very high standards for your own maturity levels. Can you please stop being so difficult, Will is obviously trying to clear himself up, please let him.
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Old 04-20-2007, 02:28 AM
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hey f*ck-tards stop filling this thread with your childish bickering...
wading through mindfreak and will's posts there is something regarding the origional serious discussion and debate... but peppered with 'your a retard' comments.

your both retards, problem solved.

any more shiet and i'm locking this, keep it on topic please
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hey f*ck-tards stop filling this thread with your childish bickering...
wading through mindfreak and will's posts there is something regarding the origional serious discussion and debate... but peppered with 'your a retard' comments.

your both retards, problem solved.

any more shiet and i'm locking this, keep it on topic please
i agree Taekwondo Guy. Now that it is a day later i realize i probably shouldnt have called the guy retarded. Will100 i only read your original post which even you admit was pretty stupid but i apologize for the retard comment.
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Personally no i dont think theres anything wrong with it at there age, i think theres a point at 16-17 where the serious feelings are begining to occur and people need to start really considering when the appropriate times are there to say those words. But at 14 i hardly think the girl is going to think..oh wow he said it..my god i dont wanna get married to the guy and run for the hills or something...i think its kinda cute =P. I dont see the harm in it, and i think it sounds daggy if shes like i love you and hes like...oh i really care about you..haha..just my 2cents
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Kids say all sorts of things at that age - they see love as attraction from watching tv etc. The kid's not hurting anyone - leave him be I say.

This is where political correctness starts.... fvck that - let kids be kids.

Will100 - as far as instilling moral values into your kids after the age of 6-7, I know many people who are my age (around 30), who's parents instilled good manners & moral values into them until they left home at around 17-18, and even then, some of them decided to be dirtbags in their 20's.

A parents job is NEVER done - whether it be instilling values or just offering advice & a supportive shoulder in bad times.
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Still!!! Im Confused.

This Guy Is 20 And Your Trying To Have A "serious Discusion" About His 14yr Old Son. Now That Is Retarded.............
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Still!!! Im Confused.

This Guy Is 20 And Your Trying To Have A "serious Discusion" About His 14yr Old Son. Now That Is Retarded.............
age is not a prerequisite for wisdom

i havent bothered going through the whole thread, but put it simply, if u post something like this ur going to get lots of answers. if u didnt want advice from ppl who dont have kids...well damn how about u talk to ur 'adult' friends instead of coming to a bodybuilding forum where most r in there teens to late 20's, with a couple of 30+.
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i havent bothered going through the whole thread, but put it simply, if u post something like this ur going to get lots of answers. if u didnt want advice from ppl who dont have kids...well damn how about u talk to ur 'adult' friends instead of coming to a bodybuilding forum where most r in there teens to late 20's, with a couple of 30+.
i wasnt talking about wisdom, the reason im confused is that at hes 20 and his sons 14. its physicaly impossible.... 20 --- 14 HELLO!!!!!!!!!

HE HAD A KID WHEN HE WAS 6???????????????
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Back in the 12, 13 and 14 year old days we told every boy we "dated" I love you. It was just something we said, probably because we heard adults say it. But at the age of 14 I DID have my first serious boyfriend. And I really DID love him. We dated for 1 year, 3 months, 2 weeks and 5 days. Can you believe I still remember that? I'm freaking 28 now! So, after 14 years I still remember that. My world was CRUSHED when he broke up with me. I believe he did really love me too, but once we hit 16 he didn't want to be tied down anymore. It broke my heart and I didn't get over him for close to 2 years. I can still to this day say he was my first love. Although I love my boyfriend now in a very different, more mature, for a lifetime way, I still did love this first boyfriend of mine. And as much as I hate to admit it, we did have sex at that young age. I can very much understand having rules for your son and you should. But just keeping them away from her house when her parents aren't home may not be enough. Yes, you should take EVERY PRECAUTION that you can. My point is - if they want to do it bad enough - they will. The ex that I speak of above and I used to do it in his living room while his mom slept upstairs because she worked 3rd shift. Or we would go to a friends house who's mom or dad wasn't home. I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS WHAT YOUR SON WILL DO or that you shouldn't make an effort to stop it, because you should. My point is, if they want to they will find a way and it's not always easy to stop. IMO, the best thing to do is sit down with your son and talk about sex. The emotions involved and the consequences - especially if she got pregnant. Encourage him to use protection EVERY TIME, whether he tries to have sex now - or if he waits 10 years. The more you make it seem like a "bad" thing, the more curious he may be to try it. It sounds like you're trying to instill good values in him and that's awesome. You don't see enough of that these days. But as far as the "I love you" thing, I wouldn't worry too much about that.
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Back in the 12, 13 and 14 year old days we told every boy we "dated" I love you. It was just something we said, probably because we heard adults say it. But at the age of 14 I DID have my first serious boyfriend. And I really DID love him. We dated for 1 year, 3 months, 2 weeks and 5 days. Can you believe I still remember that? I'm freaking 28 now! So, after 14 years I still remember that. My world was CRUSHED when he broke up with me. I believe he did really love me too, but once we hit 16 he didn't want to be tied down anymore. It broke my heart and I didn't get over him for close to 2 years. I can still to this day say he was my first love. Although I love my boyfriend now in a very different, more mature, for a lifetime way, I still did love this first boyfriend of mine. And as much as I hate to admit it, we did have sex at that young age. I can very much understand having rules for your son and you should. But just keeping them away from her house when her parents aren't home may not be enough. Yes, you should take EVERY PRECAUTION that you can. My point is - if they want to do it bad enough - they will. The ex that I speak of above and I used to do it in his living room while his mom slept upstairs because she worked 3rd shift. Or we would go to a friends house who's mom or dad wasn't home. I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS WHAT YOUR SON WILL DO or that you shouldn't make an effort to stop it, because you should. My point is, if they want to they will find a way and it's not always easy to stop. IMO, the best thing to do is sit down with your son and talk about sex. The emotions involved and the consequences - especially if she got pregnant. Encourage him to use protection EVERY TIME, whether he tries to have sex now - or if he waits 10 years. The more you make it seem like a "bad" thing, the more curious he may be to try it. It sounds like you're trying to instill good values in him and that's awesome. You don't see enough of that these days. But as far as the "I love you" thing, I wouldn't worry too much about that.
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This thread is making me dizzy. 20 years old with a 14 year old son? What did i miss? Did a mod delete a page or 3 somewhere?
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This thread is making me dizzy. 20 years old with a 14 year old son? What did i miss? Did a mod delete a page or 3 somewhere?
he said it isnt actually his son. not sure.
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