Right and Wrong?

[POWERJIM]

What are our ideas of right and wrong based upon? who said taking drugs is wrong, or sleeping with your brothers wife? where on earth did these perceptions come from

[BiggerGuns=LongerDrives]

They were derived from good and evil

[howardalex]

this is really messed up, it's considered moral to take hundreds of dogs, strap them into machines and make them breathe smoke until they die to prove that smoking is bad for the health, yet speeding motorists are demonised

[Vengeance]

The goverment, relgion.

drugs are bad mmmmkkkaaaayyyy.

The sleep with your brothers wife thing is sort of a social contract...like I won't kill you you dont kill me, i dont steal your **** you dont steal mine, i dont **** your wife you don't...well i'm single but you get it. My philosophy prof. explained that even if the ten comandments didnt come from God it's a good social contract not to do those things (dont worry he wasn't a christain).

[POWERJIM]

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

They were derived from good and evil

But then whats good and evil? its not that clear cut i dont think, thin line between good and evil.

[Cammo]

If it feels good it's probably WRONG!

[BiggerGuns=LongerDrives]

Originally Posted by POWERJIM

But then whats good and evil? its not that clear cut i dont think, thin line between good and evil.

OK, I see what ya mean.

Well what is the epitomy of Evil? Satan right? Well Satan used to be
God's #1 angel in heaven, so I see what you mean.

But Satan became EVIL when he chose to think he wanted to be better
than God and tried to destroy him in the battle....

I think there are clear cut lines between good and evil, but sometimes man makes it seem like there are gray areas...but I think that is a perspective concieved by all the bad stories in the media and news. The news is fvcken depressing and scary to watch.

[Cammo]

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

The news is fvcken depressing and scary to watch.

Bump.

[howardalex]

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

OK, I see what ya mean.

Well what is the epitomy of Evil? Satan right? Well Satan used to be
God's #1 angel in heaven, so I see what you mean.

But Satan became EVIL when he chose to think he wanted to be better
than God and tried to destroy him in the battle....

I think there are clear cut lines between good and evil, but sometimes man makes it seem like there are gray areas...but I think that is a perspective concieved by all the bad stories in the media and news. The news is fvcken depressing and scary to watch.

the news is terrible for information - that's why we have the dangerous dogs act (bans pitbulls, japanese tosas and other dogs even though they're not dangerous, it's how they're brought up - my japanese akita is much more aggressive than my pitbulls and he's legal :S), that's why everyone thinks that steroids shrink your penis and anyone over 150lb uses them etc etc

[POWERJIM]

If someone could please give me a reason for why Osama bin Laden is more evil than George W Bush that would be great? i cant do it myself.

[howardalex]

Originally Posted by POWERJIM

If someone could please give me a reason for why Osama bin Laden is more evil than George W Bush that would be great? i cant do it myself.

George Bush is the head of a more affluent regime, has more power and can cover up more, therefore he's a good person

[POWERJIM]

Originally Posted by howardalex

George Bush is the head of a more affluent regime, has more power and can cover up more, therefore he's a good person

Why is America a more affluent regime?

[howardalex]

Originally Posted by POWERJIM

Why is America a more affluent regime?

more money + power (not per person but that isn't so important in this), okay the Saudi Arabians have a lot of cash 'cos of their oil but they're still controlled by the americans, plus the americans have more nuclear weapons, they're a bigger threat

[POWERJIM]

See i really feel and it may not be the case, that most white people look upon non whites as the evil of the world, we have been told through the media for so many years that non whites are the evil ones the ones you dont want to bump into at night walking home, that us whites are scared of anything that doesnt look like us, i know myself that i see a group of black teenagers as being gang bangers, feel brain washed.

[howardalex]

Originally Posted by POWERJIM

See i really feel and it may not be the case, that most white people look upon non whites as the evil of the world, we have been told through the media for so many years that non whites are the evil ones the ones you dont want to bump into at night walking home, that us whites are scared of anything that doesnt look like us, i know myself that i see a group of black teenagers as being gang bangers, feel brain washed.

I know what you mean, I used to think this opinion was bullsh1t, but the media has a lot to answer for...

[BiggerGuns=LongerDrives]

Originally Posted by POWERJIM

If someone could please give me a reason for why Osama bin Laden is more evil than George W Bush that would be great? i cant do it myself.

Bin Laden is pure Evil, Bush is perhaps Evil too, at least his actions are not
Godly in my eyes AT ALL. I say fvck em both and burn them both at the stake!!!

But I'd so much enjoy watching Bin Laden burn...I'd feel humane feelings for Georgie even if I dont like him! Guess it's the American in me???

[POWERJIM]

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

Bin Laden is pure Evil, Bush is perhaps Evil too, at least his actions are not
Godly in my eyes AT ALL. I say fvck em both and burn them both at the stake!!!

But I'd so much enjoy watching Bin Laden burn...I'd feel humane feelings for Georgie even if I dont like him! Guess it's the American in me???

See thats a real honest point of view, you identify more with an American white man than an Arab, just like the rest of us and thats why wars are fought, us Brits are happy fighting along side you Americans as we see ourselves in you.

[Cammo]

Originally Posted by POWERJIM