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09-02-2006, 06:20 AM
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I'm wondering about the 'roid rage' that I grew up hearing about in connection to steroids. Is that a reality for most users? If so why? Why not? Do you find yourself short tempered, easy to set off, that kind of thing? Is it something you have to learn to live with? Or is it just a myth?
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09-02-2006, 07:02 AM
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Its a myth. Surfer
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09-02-2006, 07:18 AM
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Its over blown, also if your an angry aggressive person anyway higher test levels wont help that rage, its a shame a few a-holes put a bad stamp on an otherwise controlled substance by many decent bodybuilders.
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09-02-2006, 08:23 AM
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Its more misleading information that the media got a hold of and started putting it out there like it was fact in which it isnt.
Alcohol will cause more rage and its perfectly legal... 
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09-02-2006, 10:40 AM
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Thanks guys, I guess that explains why there isn't a thread about it. Always wanted to know what was up with that. Could it be that back in the day it was more likely because of the specific steroids being taken then?
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09-02-2006, 02:52 PM
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This is the kind of crap the media comes out with....
Ex US marine guilty of Leeds police murder BEN JUDGE An ex US marine found guilty of murdering Leeds traffic policeman Ian Broadhurst on Boxing Day last year has been sentenced to life imprisonment with no chance of parole. 38 year-old David Bieber, an American citizen, was also convicted of the attempted murder of two of PC Broadhurst's colleagues. Passing sentence, Mr Justice Moses said: "the murder of PC Broadhurst was so grave that I must order that the early release provisions shall not apply and you must spend the rest of your life in prison." PC Broadhurst was shot when he and his colleagues stopped Bieber in a stolen BMW. PCs Neil Roper and James Banks were also shot. Bieber was using the name Nathan Coleman when he was stopped in a routine traffic patrol last Christmas. PC Ian Broadhurst who was shot dead while trying to handcuff Bieber. As PC Broadhurst and PC Roper attempted to handcuff Bieber in the back of their patrol car, Bieber opened fire, hitting PC Broadhurst in the chest. During the trial the jury heard an audio tape of the traffic officer pleading for his life. The tape included the sounds of gunfire and screaming. After the shootings, Bieber stole a car at gunpoint and went on the run but was arrested on New Year's Eve after staff in the Gateshead hotel where he was staying tipped off police. One of the staff there said Bieber arrived at the hotel wearing an absurd disguise - very large glasses and a woolly hat likened to the spectacles made famous by the Coronation Street character Deirdre Barlow, and the hat that odd job man Benny wore in the defunct soap Crossroads. At his trial, Bieber maintained his innocence, claiming the shootings were carried out by a firend, who he could not name for fear of reprisals to his family, and becase he was not a 'grass'. The jury of six men and six women returned a unanimous guilty verdict. Bieber was a bodybuilder said to have abused steroids as a young man. He joined the marines but dropped out after a year. He was forced to flee from Florida where he was wanted by police on suspicion of hiring a hitman to kill a love rival. He arrived in Britain in 1996 from France, using a false passport and he was allowed to stay in the country as a tourist, later marrying girlfried Denise in 1997. They divorced in 2002. When he was arrested, he was working as a doorman at a club in Leeds As well as Nathan Coleman, Bieber used two other false identities, with a birth certificate and social security card in the name of David Michael Dudgeon, a US citizen. He was also in possession of a third birth certificate. Steroids changed obsessed body builder Man convicted of murdering PC Ian Broadhurst faced deportation to the US and possible death penalty, over shooting of love rival Helen Carter Friday December 3, 2004 The Guardian To the regulars at the back street gym he frequented in Yorkshire, he was just another avid body builder obsessed with working out as frequently as possible, for hours on end pushing his body to the limits. David Bieber went to the Spartan Body Works gym in Barnsley every other day, exercising for between three and four hours on the weights machines with other bouncers equally committed to building up their muscles. Christopher Motherby was one of the doormen who also used to work out there. He supplied Bieber with vitamins and protein powders to help his training programme and sold him a bulletproof vest for £100. Bieber was also a regular at Rail's gym in Leeds where, the manager said, he used to go two or three times a week, paying £3 a session. Imderjit Rail said he was shocked when Bieber approached him and asked if he knew anyone who would sell him a gun. Little did they realise that Bieber, jailed for life yesterday for murdering PC Ian Broadhurst, had been on the run since 1996 from the police in Florida, where he was wanted on charges of murder and attempted murder after he ordered a hit on a love rival and he shot a former girlfriend. A large quantity of Nubain, an opiate which allows athletes to over-train, was discovered by police at Bieber's flat in Leeds. It is a prescription drug which is moved illegally in the bodybuilding world. Bieber had come a long way from his American roots to this world of illicit drugs and body-building. He was born on February 13, 1966, in Fort Myers, Florida, to a respectable but unremarkable middleclass family. His father, Frank, is a retired headteacher and his mother, Sandy, is a retired schoolteacher. He has a younger sister, Michelle, now married. He was apparently a happy-go-lucky teenager and a natural athlete. He lived with his parents in the palm-lined streets of Fort Myers. In July 1992, he was crowned South Eastern USA man's light-heavyweight bodybuilding champion. Mr Bieber senior said his son changed drastically because of the steroids. "That was the beginning of the end," he said. "He was once a nice quiet young man. Who would have thought it would turn out like this?" Bieber was wanted over the murder of Markus Müller, a German-born bodybuilder, who was shot dead in February 1995. Both men had been romantically involved with Danielle Labelle, from Bonita Springs, Florida. She married Bieber a week before Müller was murdered, but left him to be with his rival. Police in the US believe the two men were also bitter enemies in the lucrative steroid trafficking business. Bieber is suspected of hiring John Saladino, 31, to find someone to shoot his rival for $1,000 (about £520). The gunman, David Snipes, is serving a life sentence for first degree murder in the US and Saladino admitted second degree murder and was jailed for 15 years. The supreme court of Florida heard that Danielle Bieber found her lover's body and told police her husband, David, "could have done this". His former girlfriend, Michelle Stanforth, sought a restraining order, claiming he attacked her and had told her: "You'll be sorry." She was shot outside her home in August 1995, but survived. It was a world away from Bieber the talented swimmer who set a Florida state record in the 100-yard breaststroke at the age of 13. Two universities scouted him for their American football teams but his college career never took off after he left Fort Myers high school 20 years ago. He joined the US marines, where he lasted just over a year before he was dishonourably discharged for punching an instructor. He said boot camp in South Carolina did not suit him. "We got to march round like a bunch of idiots and we were yelled at a lot," he said. He gained a sharp shooter qualification, but was at pains to play down his connections with guns, having previously owned a Magnum and an AKS assault rifle in the US. The first sign of trouble came in 1990 when two women sought restraining orders against him - Virginia Boies and her two daughters lodged a complaint that Bieber had beaten them. The lawsuit was dropped after 12 days. His former girlfriend, Michelle Stanforth, also sought a similar court order. Bieber disappeared from his home in Florida after arrest warrants were issued over the two shootings. Although Bieber's name was on a Florida department of law enforcement website, it was not picked up by immigration in the UK when he arrived on a tourist visa with a bogus identity. He met a British woman - Denise Horsley - a divorced mother of two young sons. They married at Kendal register office 17 days before his visa expired. At the time of the marriage, unbeknown to Ms Horsley, he was still married to Danielle Bieber in Florida. The couple had been known as Mr and Mrs Hulk because of their muscular stature. Bieber began work as a doorman at various nightclubs in Kirklees and Selby. Throughout his brief marriage to Ms Horsley he lived out of a suitcase and never bothered to unpack. His behaviour made her suspicious, as he had insisted no photographs be taken at their wedding and he kept many of his belongings in a locked case. She eventually prised it open and found a false ID card, birth certificate, several syringes and a brown substance she believed to be drugs. There was also a large bundle of US dollars. She asked her brother to check out his name on the internet, but it drew a blank as he had been using the name of Coleman. During the police hunt for PC Broadhurst's killer, Bieber's British former wife recognised his voice. She and her third husband were taken to a safe house. The police hunt led to a lockup in Leeds where a bullet-making press and hundreds of rounds of ammunition were found. Five days after the shooting, after several sightings and one false alarm when York station was closed for several hours, armed officers caught up with him at a £29.50 a night hotel 90 miles away in Gateshead. He was naked and asleep. Bieber had checked into the hotel using a false name and address. His odd behaviour and strange appearance - he had died his hair orange and was wearing ill-fitting glasses and a black woolly hat - immediately aroused suspicion among staff at the hotel. The murder weapon was hidden beneath the mattress of his single bed. The gun was ready to fire and had his DNA on the trigger. Among the items removed from the room were £6,006.14 in cash and a birth certificate in the name of Nathan Coleman. Despite the weight of the evidence against him, Bieber maintained it was a case of mistaken identity. He claimed the shootings were carried out by a mystery friend known as Mr X whom he repeatedly refused to name. The description of the gunman had varied wildly - that he was Greek, Asian or of Turkish appearance. Rather conveniently, Bieber claimed one of the few differences between him and Mr X was that he was as pale as a ghost while his friend was tanned. Had he been found not guilty, Bieber could have been deported to the US where he would inevitably have faced the death penalty. Edited transcript of the shooting Roper Do you wanna, er.. put cuffs on him? Broadhurst Up to you, d'ya wanna? Roper Yeah, double safety, mate [Sound of car door opening, loud whistling] Roper Stop. Hold there, mate, just stop there. Bieber Right Roper Cos we're transporting you, we're having to put handcuffs on you, all right? Bieber No [pause] I got... Roper Claustrophobic Bieber Yeah Roper Well, I'm sorry you can't sit behind us when we're ... er ... [Sound of handcuff ratchet] Bieber Mate, lis ... lis... listen don't, don't Roper He's got a gun [Gunshot 1, loud screaming. Shots 2, 3 and 4. More screaming] Broadhurst No don't, don't [pause] please, please no. [Shot 5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bieber The man himself Last edited by POWERJIM; 09-02-2006 at 03:00 PM.
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Roids and pot are two things that alot of people make arguments for legalization but in reality it will never happen. My guess as to why is that they are not "PC" especially roids witch are me demonized by the media as of late. I am getting to the point that I don't even want to talk about legalization anymore because I will bet money that it will never happen.
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09-02-2006, 04:34 PM
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I don't personally know, but I have always heard it was a myth. However, I thought I recall reading an Anabolic Diary on here where someone first started juice and was commenting on how agressive he felt. Something about his coworker and wanting "to bust him in the teeth" lol. Maybe it was Sean?
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Also, Sean if you read this man, I am not getting down on you. Just remember reading it and wanted to post it. Share your thoughts on this now, if you don't mind....... Last edited by jlozan84; 09-02-2006 at 04:41 PM.
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09-04-2006, 07:01 AM
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 I dated someone years ago, that I sweared suffered from roid rage.. I only suffer from road rage!!!
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09-04-2006, 10:31 AM
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I think we all suffer a little of that from time to time. Driving can be very aggravating at times.. 
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09-06-2006, 02:57 PM
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Wonder how I will feel when I do the test/tren run next month...lol I hear some have it and some don't, go figure. I have to admit that I am naturally aggressive anyway so maybe it just felt more intense...
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