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Old 07-24-2006, 12:07 AM
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hopefully isreal will wipe them off the face of the earth
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The war isn't going to end until one side gets exterminated. Thats what is going to happen with you have 2 religions claiming one spot of land and stating the other one's religion is a load of hooey. I really think other countries need to step back and just let it run it's course, otherwise there will never be peace.

Unless somehow WMD's get involved.
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The war isn't going to end until one side gets exterminated. Thats what is going to happen with you have 2 religions claiming one spot of land and stating the other one's religion is a load of hooey. I really think other countries need to step back and just let it run it's course, otherwise there will never be peace.

Unless somehow WMD's get involved.
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The war isn't going to end until one side gets exterminated. Thats what is going to happen with you have 2 religions claiming one spot of land and stating the other one's religion is a load of hooey. I really think other countries need to step back and just let it run it's course, otherwise there will never be peace.

Unless somehow WMD's get involved.

Well, we know Israel wont be wiped out. They will never lose thier country again...God's Promise.

I am on Israel's side.
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the u.s.a will restore peace to the region
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Let them all die, I could care less about either side.
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I have to back Israel on this one - the leaders of Lebanon have made it quite clear in the past that they despise Israel & they've made it extremely cruisy for Hizbollah's existance - Israel is doing the right thing, unfortunately there are innocent casualties as there are with any war & these are what the media are focusing on.
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hopefully isreal will wipe them off the face of the earth
sounds like a plan to me
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Well, we know Israel wont be wiped out. They will never lose thier country again...God's Promise.

I am on Israel's side.

i'm guessing somewhere in the bible...what passage?
i like reading biblical things that refer to present day
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thats their battle cry. "Never Again".

In Short, Israel will go along taking care of Lebanon, and if one of those extreme countries (Syria, Iran) makes a mistake of attacking them, Israel will wipe them off the face of the earth. They have nukes, and when you hate someone that much, i wouldn't be surprised if they used them.

Would anyone here dare say "Go Hezzbolah"? I wonder, since it is a "vs." thread..
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I back Israel. I also believe that there should be a Palestinian state. Where the borders should be is something that 2 "serious" leaders from each country should iron out. They will have to live with each other for centuries. The borders must be respected by both sides! Any incursion across the borders to do harm to the "other side" should be considered an act of war and the offending nation should be admonished by the U.N. (Un-Necessary institution). Whatever retalliation the injured nation does should be supported by the U.N. also. Here is my issue with the situation in that region. Israel has been attacked over and over again. Their response is usually smash mouth. They retaliate with overwhelming force and yes, innocents suffer. I am sorry that they do but, if their government can not, or will not, reign in these terrorists, that is the price that is paid for having an ineffective government.
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Stay out of it and let them fight, it's what they do best (both sides). Probably never be peace no matter because "my invisible friend is tougher then your invisible friend" reigns with the morons there.

I am also strongly against any nukes being used in any way, I prefer my food *sans* radiation.
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this is a religious was...it will end the day the world does unfortunately

what bothers me is how so many americans (NY TIMES especially) continue to bash america saying that america is wrong in everything we do and that if we leave the terrorists alone then they will leave us alone...how many times do terrorist leaders have to say "this is a worldwide jihad, we will not rest until our religion rules the world" for people to understand that no matter how unfortunate the situation, it has to be dealt with but in this case, i hope israel deals with it because they have more of a reason to fight. also, despite not having the military power the US has, they will hopefully use 100% of thier capabilities and fight harder than our politicians let our military fight
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this is a religious was...it will end the day the world does unfortunately

what bothers me is how so many americans (NY TIMES especially) continue to bash america saying that america is wrong in everything we do and that if we leave the terrorists alone then they will leave us alone...how many times do terrorist leaders have to say "this is a worldwide jihad, we will not rest until our religion rules the world" for people to understand that no matter how unfortunate the situation, it has to be dealt with but in this case, i hope israel deals with it because they have more of a reason to fight. also, despite not having the military power the US has, they will hopefully use 100% of thier capabilities and fight harder than our politicians let our military fight

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Having been in military service, and being an American, I'll chime in:

First off, Hezbollah's actions were an act of war. Sneaking into a military site and kidnapping uniformed soldiers can be interpreted in no other way. The idiots who like to point out that their actions were against military servicemen and not civilians (in this ONE isntance) are just stupid. Israel moved OUT of Lebanon 5 years ago, met all demands of Hezbollah.....yet they still terrorize Israelis and now have captured soldiers threatning to kill them.

Secondly, the Hezbollah propoganda agents like to point out that Israel has thousands of detained Lebanese and Palestinian citizens. They like to compare 2 to thousands. This is total BS. Those detained are terrorists, people linked to terrorists, and criminals trying to inflict pain on Israel. Trying to bargain 2 non-engaged soldiers for war criminals doesn't float.

Finally, Hezbollah should be wiped out or atleast crippled severely. Let's just say that MExico was harboring a huge terrorist organization hell bent on hurting the U.S. Do you think we'd want them just sitting there, growing and expanding? No way.

BTW- If these mideast governments don't want to grow some balls and take action against these terrorist groups, they should be dealt the same hand as the terrorists. Allowing them free passage and harbor is the same as what they're doing.
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Finally, Hezbollah should be wiped out or atleast crippled severely. Let's just say that MExico was harboring a huge terrorist organization hell bent on hurting the U.S. Do you think we'd want them just sitting there, growing and expanding? No way.

BTW- If these mideast governments don't want to grow some balls and take action against these terrorist groups, they should be dealt the same hand as the terrorists. Allowing them free passage and harbor is the same as what they're doing.
My point in another post was the U.S. has an Iranian group under perpetual arrest in Iraq, and disarmed. If we decided to arm these people and set them on Iran nothing can be said by the same morons that ***** about Israel, or their true colors are exposed and I want them deported as enemy agents. The anti-Iranian group would be free to target Iranian civilians of course, and hiding in civilian populations to distribute casualties amongst them and minimize deaths to themselves would also be encouraged. Since most of the world has sided with Hezbollah, the U.S. military would destroy any military response by Iran. Then every country could establish it's own terror groups, able to act in anyway they want, and it would not be an act of war. The impossible task of targetting them and only them would be insisted upon, while the group members hid amongst civilian populations or the leaders hid in the U.S. safe from reprisal.
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Even if israel takes out them and maybe lebanon,( who will defend their territory)they are now surrounded by muslim countries.
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This is all uneducated and uninformed rambling...to be honest...It is up to you to "side" with whom ever you choose. In terms of reality, none of you will do a single thing about it though. Stating that "Isreal should blow'em up", or "Hizbollah is a "force" that needs to be destroyed" shows that you pay little to no attention to the biggest factor of that war, history. Roughly 50 years ago, Isreal was not Isreal but in fact Palestine. After world war two the remaining jews needed a "safer" place to live so, they decided to move in and inhabit the middle east, which as we all know is the prominant islamic region of the world. Now you tell me, when millions of islamic and christain palestinan men and women were kicked out of their homes and granted a wonderful strip of land called "gaza", would you expect the true natives to step aside in peace?? If you answered, Yes, your a moron. A little over 20 years ago, Isreal also inhabited a little bit of southern lebanon, Now, the Lebanese people are a strong hearted and proud people, they, like americans, love their country, and would not allow these people who already took over one country to take over another. So, after somewhat of "small war" lebanon took over their country by expelling the israelis from their country. Ofcourse no one likes to lose, so Isreal waited for a moment to acheive revenge, and that they could attack using an excuse that could not cite "rash actions". So when two men were kidnapped Isreal let out an all out war on not "hezballah" but Lebanon. Now if you have seen recent pictures of Lebanon (not the Fox news, or the Cnn pictures) you would see what they have really done to that country. They are not fighting an army, because to be honest, Lebanon doesnt have an army, Geraldo said it best when he said something along the lines of, "The lebanese people are kind and nice people, but the cleveland police force is more of an army then the lebanese army." So there are the facts. Now to think, if America sided with Lebanon in the past, who would you guys want to "win"??? this is an affair that is mostly about history, and should only be commented on, when one has most if not all the facts....
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This is all uneducated and uninformed rambling...to be honest...It is up to you to "side" with whom ever you choose. In terms of reality, none of you will do a single thing about it though. Stating that "Isreal should blow'em up", or "Hizbollah is a "force" that needs to be destroyed" shows that you pay little to no attention to the biggest factor of that war, history. Roughly 50 years ago, Isreal was not Isreal but in fact Palestine. After world war two the remaining jews needed a "safer" place to live so, they decided to move in and inhabit the middle east, which as we all know is the prominant islamic region of the world. Now you tell me, when millions of islamic and christain palestinan men and women were kicked out of their homes and granted a wonderful strip of land called "gaza", would you expect the true natives to step aside in peace?? If you answered, Yes, your a moron. A little over 20 years ago, Isreal also inhabited a little bit of southern lebanon, Now, the Lebanese people are a strong hearted and proud people, they, like americans, love their country, and would not allow these people who already took over one country to take over another. So, after somewhat of "small war" lebanon took over their country by expelling the israelis from their country. Ofcourse no one likes to lose, so Isreal waited for a moment to acheive revenge, and that they could attack using an excuse that could not cite "rash actions". So when two men were kidnapped Isreal let out an all out war on not "hezballah" but Lebanon. Now if you have seen recent pictures of Lebanon (not the Fox news, or the Cnn pictures) you would see what they have really done to that country. They are not fighting an army, because to be honest, Lebanon doesnt have an army, Geraldo said it best when he said something along the lines of, "The lebanese people are kind and nice people, but the cleveland police force is more of an army then the lebanese army." So there are the facts. Now to think, if America sided with Lebanon in the past, who would you guys want to "win"??? this is an affair that is mostly about history, and should only be commented on, when one has most if not all the facts....
This is the most dimwitted, dip**** post I've seen. You talk about intell