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And yes, most of us are probably going to do 'do nothing' but seeing as my point of view was to let them kill each other I am perfectly happy doing so. Others are in the military and have served, and have done their part moreso than a lot of others. As for you, what are YOU doing, if you are so ready to tell us we aren't going to do anything? Because honestly, unless you are holding a gun and willing to fight, or trying to talk those people into peace, you are doing exactly what we are; nothing. And last I checked you don't debate and discuss by calling people morons. So yes, that neg was from me.
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ehh, never said i was going to do anything...Don't recall saying that...aside from that...wasnt really debating that issue, if you truly thought, in your heart of hearts that you would easily and with no problem step aside while your land was being taken away from you, then you are a moron, that was a hypothetical question and nothing more then a sarcastic remark.
UCF guy....your honestly WAY behind your World history. Honestly...hush up with your biblical quotes, I in no way, brought religion in to this debate, and if I were to, that would be a debate on its own. and did i cite CNN as a credible news source??? no you ass...i simply said..that Geraldo said it best...citing a source and using it in a debate would have involved me saying using a quote that helped my arguement... You make it seem as if hezballah is a force to be feared??? are you an idiot, you want to call it a terrorist group go ahead. They're not even totalling over a thousand, so a group is exactly what they are. its funny, because you laugh at my use of a "quote" from cnn, but i would love to know where you get your information from...you honestly have no idea what your talking about. You keep watching news and you can believe all the bits of information they feed your simple minded ass. Go ask a real professor about its history, after all you are attending UCF...I would hope they could educate someone who obviously knows nothing. hope the ENTERS satisfied you caferacer...
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LOL!! Classic response. Thanks, I needed the laugh. - Hezbollah is not a formidable fighting force? The world opinion and Israeli army might differ. Here's a news exerpt about HEzbollah's "lack of ability to harm anyone" "Experts say Hezbollah, already a formidable fighting force, is growing ever more sophisticated. Not only have its missiles damaged an Israeli warship and rained death on Haifa, Israel's third-largest city, but it has augmented its arsenal with innovative technology such as night vision and aerial drones." Unmanned drones, attacking WARSHIPS, hitting the 3rd largest Israeli city?? You're right, they're just a couple hundred guys running around with pistols!! - My 2nd point went squarely over your head. I could care less about religion. I was using the Bible, a source of conxetual history, to point out how totally ASSININE your assumption was that the Jews just moved in after 1948. I noticed you didn't even mention this point again, probably because you're so embarassed to admit that they have in fact been there for over 3000 years. - You quoted Geraldo then immediately said "those are the facts". If you want to type something like that, you better be able to back it up or atleast stick with your assbackwards claim. - As for "my info"....how about duty overseas? How about one year stationed in Eastern Israel and one year stationed in Afghanistan? Have you been there on duty? Seen terrorist organizations? Have you!?!?! Hezbollah falls DIRECTLY under a terrorist network. I might as well be debating with a 10 year old. You're as big of an ignorant jackass I've seen. You question my education, experience, and my capacity for intellect.......yet you proclaim Hezbollah is NOT terrorist, you proclaim that the Jews have been in the region for 50+ years, and you use CNN as your "trustworthy" site for real news. It's clear that you're as capable of intellectual conversation as a brain dead horse, so I'll just leave it at the fact that you're in middle school and for all intents and purposes- a dumbass.
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..You must be illiterate. Just to ask a question, where did you attain that news exerpt from, Cnn? Calm down, your opinion is so biased that, I truly don't believe it could be considered an opinion. You sit there and bash me for "citing" a quote from Geraldo, when you take a entire quote from an American news website?? how much more biased can you get? and for the record that was a period after the quote, which means the sentence that preceded the earlier, was for the entire arguement, so "here are the facts" applied to everything from when I wrote, "This is all" through "are the facts." Wise up.
And to further defend myself from your childish three year old onslaught of words you need help spelling. I never said Jews did not EVER live in the middle east. Yes, there were Jewish people living in the middle east, but we can not call them Israelis, because Isreal did not exist about 50 years ago, it was Palestine. Alright, You went to the war areas....???...umm...cool....that says nothing. You were not in the war area 20 years ago, so please, when Good morning America airs on Television and says that 20 years ago, Isreal just withdrew from lebanon with no rebel fighting, and you believe this, I should have acknowledged the fact your not as bright as you claim. Also where in my Previous posts have I openly stated that Hezballah is not a terrorist group?? point it out to me, where my exact words are "Hezballah is not a terrorist group." I even stated that they indeed are a terrorist group, but they did not top over a thousand. Your putting ridiculous claims in your posts, and completely exaggerating my claims in them as well. So how about this,why don't you open a dictionary, find some more seven syllable synonyms for four letter words, and lets go another round??? Last edited by DefPoet; 07-29-2006 at 08:53 AM.
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Gonna be my last post here....Codemonkee your an idiot...
Well obviously since you're a terrorist lover i am sure you get your news from Al Jazeera.. Just the fact that you say american news is biased shows me how anti american you are. yes some american news is biased (usually slanted to your liberal left position) but just dismissing it because it is "america news" show your true anti american colors. you loathe america and all its allies (and the west). but that is what liberals do best. blame american and hate america while you live here (or in a free western country) and reap the benefits of all it has to offer. wow, how racist are you??? read that statement again. Goes to show, if someone has an opinion that goes against that of blind one, he is deemed "mornonic"...I defended my statement with reality when my statements were being attacked, with you it is a completely different story. not only do you not cite facts or use any, you use childish insults. Grow up, I was born in chicago you imbecile I love this country, I would much rather be here then anywhere else in the world. So please, keep quite with your whole "loathing" swag, your less informed then anyone yet. Twenty years ago, Isreal wasnt as powerful as they are today, and ofcourse the leader of the group is going to say that they have over 10,000 people, would you sit infront of millions of onviewers and be honest. Our president does it all the time, its so the country doesnt lose hope in its government. Not a single person likes losing, or admitting to it. lmao. Honestly, you called me a terrorist lover, and that is one of the funniest things I've ever heard. I wouldnt be suprised if our president said the same thing in his next speech. Also in a debate, when speeches get some what heated, intelligent insults are made. Subliminal or subtle hints at the persons claims are alright. But you called me a "terrorist lover"...lol... if you do insult my intelligence, do it with class.
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Def......everything you've said has been refuted with facts. Cold.....hard....facts. You look dumb and you'd be wise to just give up.
You indeed DID say that Jews just moved into the area. You indeed DID say that Hezbollah is "not a force" despite being 10,000 strong and having the military capabilities of some smaller developed countries. You indeed DID say that Lebanon "expelled" Israel.........yet then said they have an army the size of a police force. You're full of lies and contradictions. When you make debate with such erroneous and ignorant statements, intelligent people can't HELP but fire back at you with vigor and comtempt.
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Bah! Nuke em all!
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If I had the power, I would blast that whole section of the world into glass. But then again, Thats why nobody should ever take me seriously or let me have control or power over anything....ever....
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just leave them to it, cudnt give a crap bout them guys, tht hole area of the world is a fuked up place, we shud build a wall around it an leave it. then go back in like 10 years and see if they have just wiped each other out, which they will do.
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Jewish Terrorists From Israel Kill Non-Jews Every Day, Europe and America Do Absolutely Nothing to Stop It
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I still think, at the end of the day, until you are really close to the conflict, nobody can really know what's going on about that... All we know is what they want to told us, so we may argue about something we don't really know about...
All I say is viva canada, here I don't really have to deal with terrorism... But all in all even america is kinda terrorist by itself just we do it undercover
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being half lebanese i am biased so I don't favour Israel like most of you guys seem to, IMO they are both as bad as each other
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Despite the recent "war", Lebanon still has a government in the literary sense (unlike Iraq) after all that pounding by Israel.
I think that, given the strength of Hezbollah's forces (somebody said 10,000), their characteristic way of fighting (which has got both Israeli and Western military leaders "seriously wondering") and their continued access to improved weapons technology, a longer war would have proved really costly to Israel. If Israel uses WMDs, they stand to lose the sympathy gained from World War II...and that sympathy (combined with 9/11) is a major factor why a lot of Western working class people (at least the ones I know...except my brother) inadvertently or not support the Israelis more so than they do Arabs. Remember that Hezbollah has the backing of Iran (Iran is a huge source of funding and moral support), a primary reason why Western involvement was limited to only words during the recent "war". With American presence in Iraq and Blair's support amongst his own people crumbling, Western states are treading carefully. It is ironical that, for a good period of time in the medieval world, Islam tolerated Jews much better than Western Christendom did. So as always, the rate of tolerance between religious and ethnic groups will evolve. Personally I see Iran's involvement as a direct response to American support for Israel.
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First of all, you're never going to get the truth, the whole truth... because the mainstream media is practically owed by jews. So bacically you're only getting one side of the story. Their side(jewish). I mean think about it. If you say anything negative about jews you are automatically labeled anti-semitic. That's BS. I mean come'on peeps think about it. "God's chosen people." So what the hell does that make the rest of us, redheaded stepchildren? Think about it. Most of you think of jews and Israel from the biblical sense. Those are not the same people.
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