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[Hannainnc]

Originally Posted by codemonkee

Hannainnc i do apologize if i seemed "snippy". i usually try to keep a cool head during these posts. its just when i see someone try to portray the military as not liking bush it drives me crazy cause i know that is far from the truth. the liberal media loves to find the few in the military who dont like bush. like when they made a big deal about the 6 generals who disagreed with bush. there is well over 1000 generals in the military (most who agree 100% with bush's policies) but they focus on the word of 6. michael moore's piece of garage lying "documentary" did the same thing. he found a few soldiers who didnt like bush and made it seem like the whole military felt like that. its just a total lie and it gets to me cause it is not true. but again i do apologize if i seemed "snippy"

it's okay. there are some democrats that did not like Michael Moore's lame documentary either...I didn't like it at all. I don't think it was representative of many democrats views, it was offensive to me.

[mitchcumstein]

Originally Posted by codemonkee

hmm everyone in the military (or ex military) is brainwashed? lol. i'll just let you think that cause i wont be able to convince you otherwise. i will speak for myself though because i thought the way i do long before i joined the military. actually i joined the military because i think the way i do. so joining the military absolutely did not brainwash me. and just remember who fights and protects your freedom. all that "brainwashed" military, you should have a little more respect for the military which protects your right to say things like that no matter how untrue it may be.

also i dont understand how i'm "brainwashed" because the stated the FACT that bush received an overwhelming majority of the military votes. are you saying that just because he is the commander in chief we voted for him cause we are brainwashed? if that is what you are trying to say (and i'm not sure if it is or not) then that is totally wrong because clinton didnt even come close to the majority of military votes when he was commander in chief. but we're all brainwashed huh?

Theres a big difference between protecting our freedom and protecting our "lifestyle". Our freedom has never been in danger. Our $1 a gallon gasoline is the only thing were fighting for. Wake up. Ive been on this earth twice as long as youve been alive. You have no idea what time it is. Every time you open your mouth your just parroting all the propoganda youve been fed. Dont forget why youre(the military) are here. Youre here to to do as your told, not to lead.

[codemonkee]

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

Theres a big difference between protecting our freedom and protecting our "lifestyle". Our freedom has never been in danger. Our $1 a gallon gasoline is the only thing were fighting for. Wake up. Ive been on this earth twice as long as youve been alive. You have no idea what time it is. Every time you open your mouth your just parroting all the propoganda youve been fed. Dont forget why youre(the military) are here. Youre here to to do as your told, not to lead.

you've been on the earth twice as long as me? i guess your 54 then. hey churchill said it best. if you're 20 and not a liberal you dont have a heart. if you're 40 and not a conservative you dont have a brain. you're over 40. anyway, you are a really cool dude, you've given really good advice on certain things in other posts so i do respect you as a person. we'll just agree to disagree but do tell me, if we went into iraq for oil how come gas prices are $3 a gallon now? you're parroting the liberal, left wing, conspiracy theory propraganda michael moore and the rest of far left whackos are feeding you. i guess we're both guilty of it. i'm just not on the anti american side .

[mitchcumstein]

Originally Posted by codemonkee

tell me if we went into iraq for oil how come gas prices are $3 a gallon now? you're parroting the liberal, left wing, conspiracy theory propraganda michael moore and the rest of far left whackos are feeding you. i guess we're both guilty of it. i'm just not on the anti american side .

My point exactly. Our president is so inadequate he cant even control the flow of oil into our country. Theres no conspiracy, just plain stupidity and inadequacy. BTW, ive never seen or read anything by michael moore. In fact i make it a point to stay away from the liberal whackos. Im 36 years old, a college graduate and capable of drawing my own conclusions. I dont live with mommy and daddy. I own a home, pay property taxes, income taxes, and every other bull**** tax under the sun and I know what makes the world go round.

[codemonkee]

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

My point exactly. Our president is so inadequate he cant even control the flow of oil into our country. Theres no conspiracy, just plain stupidity and inadequacy. BTW, ive never seen or read anything by michael moore. In fact i make it a point to stay away from the liberal whackos. Im 36 years old, a college graduate and capable of drawing my own conclusions.

so you're not 40 yet. i guess in 4 years you'll get a brain. lol. i'm kidding dude...
well i'm 27 and a college graduate and capable drawing my own conclusions also. i guess we just came to different conclusions. and like i said earlier. i dont think like i do because i joined the military. i joined the military because i think like i do.
there are lots of "theories" why we went to war. i think the oil reason is the most ludicrous of them all.

[mitchcumstein]

Originally Posted by codemonkee

so you're not 40 yet. i guess in 4 years you'll get a brain. lol. i'm kidding dude...
well i'm 27 and a college graduate and capable drawing my own conclusions also. i guess we just came to different conclusions. and like i said earlier. i dont think like i do because i joined the military. i joined the military because i think like i do.
there are lots of "theories" why we went to war. i think the oil reason is the most ludicrous of them all.

Fine, but you cant honestly believe were over there fighting for our freedom. Thats just the Bush administration beating the liberal drum. Come on.

[codemonkee]

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

Fine, but you cant honestly believe were over there fighting for our freedom. Thats just the Bush administration beating the liberal drum. Come on.

beating the liberal drum? that is the first time i have ever heard bush be reffered as liberal? that was a joke right?

[vassille]

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

Fine, but you cant honestly believe were over there fighting for our freedom. Thats just the Bush administration beating the liberal drum. Come on.

YOu know what's even worse, that the oil companies are making huge profits while we keep the oil line open in middle east with tax payer's money. If I were an oil company exec I will get drunk everynight counting money, it;s crazy

[mitchcumstein]

Originally Posted by codemonkee

beating the liberal drum? that is the first time i have ever heard bush be reffered as liberal? that was a joke right?

No, im saying that whole freedom cry thing is to try and round up some liberal approval. Its not working obviously as every american with breath in them, except for the faithful military according to you, now wishes the George w bush chapter would finally come to an end.

[codemonkee]

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

No, im saying that whole freedom cry thing is to try and round up some liberal approval. Its not working obviously as every american with breath in them, except for the faithful military according to you, now wishes the George w bush chapter would finally come to an end.

well i dont know about that. there are still plenty of bush supporters out there. dont listen too much to the biased polls. those are the same polls that said kerry was going to win the election. we'll see in 2008, i'm just hoping hilliary gets the nomination. she has no chance to win any state in the south.

[mitchcumstein]

I dont listen to polls. I dont watch cnn. I dont watch any of that ****. I listen to my parents, their friends, my friends, hardcore republicans, all these people who voted bush into office who are now saying "wow, that was honestly the biggest mistake i've ever made!"

[codemonkee]

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

I dont listen to polls. I dont watch cnn. I dont watch any of that ****. I listen to my parents, their friends, my friends, hardcore republicans, all these people who voted bush into office who are now saying "wow, that was honestly the biggest mistake i've ever made!"

well that's funny. i know a ton of republicans too. and none of them say that. as matter of fact they would vote for him again in a heartbeat. as would I. i cringe at the thought of a liberal democrat in charge of national security.

[mitchcumstein]

Sure you do. all your ex or current military friends. Wow dude, you need to step back on to planet earth and look around. Youre ex military. Of course youre not gonna go against your former (or current) commander in chief. That would be mutiny, or even treason. Youre conditioned to think that way. Thats what you dont get. Youre conditioned. Brainwashed. You couldnt draw up a logical conclusion if your life depended on it. Its so sad that the democratic party couldnt put up a decent candidate the last 2 elections beacuse our country wouldnt be in the sorry shape its in now if they had. Up till now it been a choice of dumb of dumber.

[codemonkee]

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

Sure you do. all your ex or current military friends. Wow dude, you need to step back on to planet earth and look around. Youre ex military. Of course youre not gonna go against your former (or current) commander in chief. That would be mutiny, or even treason. Youre conditioned to think that way. Thats what you dont get. Youre conditioned. Brainwashed. You couldnt draw up a logical conclusion if your life depended on it. Its so sad that the democratic party couldnt put up a decent candidate the last 2 elections beacuse our country wouldnt be in the sorry shape its in now if they had. Up till now it been a choice of dumb of dumber.

no you need to step back to planet earth and realize not everyone hates bush the way you do. just keep listening to michael moore for your talking points. i am ex military i can say whatever i want about bush. i served under clinton as my commander in chief also and i will say he is a moron and a coward. the democrats cant put a better candidate. their party has been talking over by the michael moore, al franken, howard dean whacko left wing ANTI AMERICAN nuts. they all spew the same garbage you are. you need to stop listening to them and get a thought of your own.

[krenalor]

I served for 23 years in the military, and I don't like Bush but hated Kerry more. The democrats are again doomed if they can't find a centralist and they nominate a nut like Hilary Clinton, who leans way further left then Bill did. Why are we stuck voting for the lesser of two evils?
Bush has seriously screwed the pooch again in Lebenon, he could have taken leadership and got Israel to cease attacks and dealt Hezbollah a death blow. Instead he is coming out as the rest of the world's whipping boy as it is now.
Heck after Syria got kicked out, and Hezbollah being stupid, Israel didn't need to attack right away. They could have delayed a bit and we could have worked to get Hezbollah out of Lebenon, but nnnoooo, now it's a giant **** sandwich.

[mitchcumstein]

Originally Posted by codemonkee

well that's funny. i know a ton of republicans too. and none of them say that. as matter of fact they would vote for him again in a heartbeat. as would I. i cringe at the thought of a liberal democrat in charge of national security.

This post really highlights your ignorance. Our most peaceful times as a country have been under Democratic presidents. Dont forget who was in office on 9/11, the biggest national security blunder in our countries history. It wasnt Clinton.

Originally Posted by codemonkee

no you need to step back to planet earth and realize not everyone hates bush the way you do. just keep listening to michael moore for your talking points. i am ex military i can say whatever i want about bush. i served under clinton as my commander in chief also and i will say he is a moron and a coward. the democrats cant put a better candidate. their party has been talking over by the michael moore, al franken, howard dean whacko left wing ANTI AMERICAN nuts. they all spew the same garbage you are. you need to stop listening to them and get a thought of your own.

I dont hate him, I just think hes complete failure. Hes undereducated and underqualified for the job. Furthermore, Hes letting the working class ppl suffer by paying outrageous gas prices while all his friends in texas get filthy rich which makes him crooked. Typical Republican.
Im not one of those ppl that sit around all day listening to AM radio and debating politics every chance I get. I hate politics. I have a College Degree in Politcal Science and I really want no part of politics at all. But I can smell a Parrot a mile away.
Once again I will reiterate Ive never heard or watched anything by any of those ppl you named above. I know of Michael Moores reputation, thats the extent of it. I dont listen to any talk radio either as its all too biased to one side or the other. I even take what I read in the newspaper with a grain of salt as its traditionally slanted towards the liberal side. You, however, sound like a walking Rush Limbaugh endorsement and thats not exactly a compliment.
I grew up democrat. I even did my college internship working on Bill Clintons campaign. Yet I voted for Bush because I felt at the time that Kerry wasnt qualified to be our president. Now its painfully obvious that George W isnt either so here we are, at war again under a Republican president(big surprise there) and our economy in the ****ter.

[codemonkee]

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

This post really highlights your ignorance. Our most peaceful times as a country have been under Democratic presidents. Dont forget who was in office on 9/11, the biggest national security blunder in our countries history. It wasnt Clinton.

bush was but he was in office only 8 months. clinton's complete impotence on national security is what caused 9/11. 9/11 was in motion LONG before bush took office. sudan had bin laden in custody in 1996 and asked clinton if he wanted to take him. clinton said no. clinton was a complete and utter failure. the reason we had "peace" was cause clinton was too much a p*ssy to do anything about all the terrorist attacks on US soil (or US interests). should i name a few? The USS Cole. Clinton did nothing. The first WTC bombing. Nothing. The attacks on the embassies in Kenya. nothing. should i go on, cause i can? we should have taken care of the problem in the 90s. if clinton had the guts and wasnt too busy cutting and running in somolia and gutting the national defense, CIA and FBI spending 9/11 may not have happened. so blame bush like you and your michael moore buddy. you just repeat everything you hear from him and howard dean. dont tell me you dont listen to them. bush is making the middle class pay high gas prices? let me give you a little lesson cause you're too blinded by Bush hate to see the truth. bush (or the united states) or his "friends" in texas dont set the oil prices. nothing to do with it. that is just michael moore / ignorant liberal propaganda that you have brought into. do some homework. gas is $3 a gallon right now. the oil companies get about 8 cents of that $3. while the government gets 75 cents in taxes. that's one reason why the prices are so high. cause of the taxes that were put into place on gas. who taxed the gas? certainly wasnt bush. he cut taxes. no we can blame you liberal friends for that. i love how everyone blames bush for high gas prices. it just shows how moronic liberals will believe anything negative the whackos on the left can dream up to make people hate bush. you so obviously listen to those whackos. you're a walking liberal talking point.
and you did an intership for clinton's campaign. that explains alot.
another lying talking point you've been spewing is that the economy is in the sh*tter. more proof you have no mind of your own. dude, your 36 years old. its time to grow up and think for yourself and stop being a whiny liberal

[fumbrunner]

Ok, this is getting WAAAYYY off topic. Either lets get back to the discussion at hand on lock this puppy.