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Never mind that last question! It must be the age difference
 Everything I do is about being a better man. When I was younger I did not care about that. I guess I got the wrong crowd to ask this question.
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Steroids do reflect the age we live in. Everyone wants 'it' now. From personal experience I think it's a self esteem issue that juicers deal with. They hate themselves so much they take steroids to be something they are not. I lost a really good friend to roids. He became so mental ... full of anger and rage then depressed!!! All so he look good! Like I said, I believe steroid users have WAY bigger issues to deal with than just the negative the effects of taking roids.
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 These things do not harm me, they are not illegal, they do not contradict the values of my family or community (do you believe these things do not matter to you? or were you raised to think that its okay to turn to drugs to achieve your goals without regard to law), they are not inconsistent with my efforts towards good health, they are not drugs, etc.
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You bring up a good point. The reason no roid users who have learned lifes lessons are not contributing to this thread is because they are all dead!
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People pack it in all the time... Sure roid use probably help to destabalize him.. but its not the roids fault, it was his fault. Don't think that roid users hate themselves.. cause I don't hate myself.. infact I have alot of pride in myself.. I'm actually a quite healthy in mind. I also know very stable and well educated, and extremely pleasent people that use.. can you believe one of them is a neuro surgeon (just wrote his final examine) and a tri-athelete... I have a different out look on use of steroids then you do... I don't see it as a big deal for me.. it's not like i have to hate myself to resort to their use, like that of a heroin addict.. . It's different. 1000's of older men are perscribed testosterone on yearly bases.. 10 of thousands.. Woman are without a blink of an eye prescribed estrogen to help them maintain their womanly appearance... it's isn't a big stretch, to use it to build a bit more muscle... You don't have to be a crazy freak.. You just have to be a bit vain.
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What is the main problem people have agianst riods?
That is what I want to know... Is it becouse it makes you get to your goals when you hit that wall? Is it becouse they envy the people that does use them? IS it becouse they only want to look into the negative part where people over use and abuse them? Why? Why? Why? That is what I want to know?
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Who says they wont hurt you? If you take in too much protein you will shut your liver down. So if i move to a country where steroids are legal then it will be ok for me to use them? Becasue their government says they are ok for me?
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Poobah, Im glad you responded to this post. You are one of the most level-headed, straight to the truth guys when it comes to this topic. I love to read what you post. Keep up the good work!
Kudos my friend!! 
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Don't have anything against the people who use them, so Q2 and Q3 are out.
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The other stuff I do use does not endanger my health. Even oxygen can kill you, that is no reason not to breath it.
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See I have no problem with people who don't want to use gear and go the natty route, that's fine and I can respect that. It really pisses me off though when someone comes on here all self-righteous about how steroids aren't fair and they're a better person because they don't use them.
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I was wondering if you could provide links to those studies, I tried to google them and search pubmed but I couldn't find any of them, I'd actually really be interested in reading them. If I'm wrong about there being no studies then I'm wrong, it's not gonna change my mind but I would like to read them nonetheless so I can be more knowledgeable on the topic.
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This is going no where...
Everyone is stating there sides of the story and how they feel... I know no one is trying to change anyones mind but this is going no where... Its like sitting in parlement... Argument going left and right but at the end it is still going to end up the way it started... People using gear are bad people and they are cheating... Well that is what I think... So where will the world be in 10years... There will always be people hating users. Cheers
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Key words: "anabolic steroids and HIV transmission" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum Key words: "anabolic steroids side effects Hickson" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum Key words: "anabolic steroids side effects Kennedy" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum Key words: "anabolic steroids death bodybuilders" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum That is just the tip of the iceberg. Also see this link: http://www.steroidabuse.org/ Do you have a way to get the full text articles? If not, let me know.
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