americans and evolution

[na_feu]

Originally Posted by Taekwondo Guy

oh what a crock of sh*t lol... the UK has done nothing...your right :roll

its obvious your going to contribute more seeing you have more people inhabiting a country that dwarfs the UK.
List of countries by population - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

US - 302,425,000
UK - 60,000,000

In mind of the 2004 Tsunami, the Uk contributed more than the US when compared to the % of the countries GDP.

Humanitarian response to the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The US might of contributed more cash but only beause you have 5x the population than us, look at the figures... your bright shining country was outdone by Taiwan.

You might of donated more in money but it was merely spare change in your countries vaults comapred to serious money beng handed over by 'lesser countries'

There there. You guys still have the commonwealth don't you?

Please.
This is irrelevant..
BUT

1. We feed Taiwan. And protect Taiwan from China.

2. So your saying that we don't give our "share" since we earn more? hahahaha. What a socialist.

3. We love the Brits. Our cousins. Aging..cousins.

You cannot reasonably argue that the U.S. does not take lead role in fighting oppression, poverty, terror, bad TV, bad British food, bad body odor, bad teeth...
Who sends the sandbags of rice to the starving people of Idiot land? Who sends Marines to free them from the bully Idiot of Idiot land? lol.

The original point is that we are extraordinarily "well off" in comparison, and one of our main differences with the rest of the west is that most of our population goes to church. American protestant conservative church that teaches american protestant values. Simple.

[Cammo]

Uncle Sam is in so much debt to China it's not funny.

The USA is literally bankrupt.

[na_feu]

Originally Posted by Cammo

Uncle Sam is in so much debt to China it's not funny.

The USA is literally bankrupt.

So. I'm 22 and I own a house and 2 cars. Thats more than 10,000 Chinese put together.

[Cammo]

Originally Posted by na_feu

So. I'm 22 and I own a house and 2 cars. Thats more than 10,000 Chinese put together.

You keep changing the argument from personal to national wealth...make up your mind.

I am not a religious man but I live my life honestly & I treat others how I would like to be treated myself.
These are not religious ideals - they are simply instinctual feelings of knowing what is right & what is wrong.

We do not have to be religious to be good people - you obviously think otherwise.

[na_feu]

Originally Posted by Cammo

You keep changing the argument from personal to national wealth...make up your mind.

I am not a religious man but I live my life honestly & I treat others how I would like to be treated myself.
These are not religious ideals - they are simply instinctual feelings of knowing what is right & what is wrong.

We do not have to be religious to be good people - you obviously think otherwise.

I agree. I like to think of myself as honest too, and I am not religious. However it is religion assumes a big role in teaching and promoting values, such as honesty, where as other institutions such as public schools do not, at least not well. I did not say that people without faith cannot be people of character. I merely suggest that faith can help to instill the importance OF character, where-as todays society lacks interest in promoting OTHER institutions that instill character. The next generation, and my generation, was brought up on MTV, not the boy scouts. And it does not seem to be getting better, rather, it seems top be plummiting further into materialism and a shallow sedtary existance.

This is funny because my GF argues this with me day and night. I say "America is great because our citizens are good people because their American values are re-inforced and taught via church'" and she says basically what you are saying. I still think I'm right.

[Cammo]

And what's a parents role amongst all of this?.... are they just to sit back & let school & church take care of their childrens upbringing?

I think not.

It is a parents job to make sure their children are brought up with respect for other living things - not the churches.

[na_feu]

Originally Posted by Cammo

And what's a parents role amongst all of this?.... are they just to sit back & let school & church take care of their childrens upbringing?

I think not.

No. But they do.

[Cammo]

Originally Posted by na_feu

No. But they do.

So you are saying that people rely too heavily on the church?

[na_feu]

Originally Posted by Cammo

So you are saying that people rely too heavily on the church?

Parents roles in their childrens lives have diminished greatly just in the past decade. It has been dimnishing gradually since 1960-70's when the feminist movement virtually removed women from the role of stay-at-home mother. The father is not to be imasculated by such a role. So then who is doing majority of the child rearing today?
Here is who:
Myspace,
MTV,
public school,
daycare,
popular music and entertainment etc.

Something has to exist outside the home to counter ^ that.

Kids have relative independance and access to information at age 10. So who is to instill values when the parents are present 15% of the time and the above list is present the other 85%?
The antedote is church organizations, community organizations, boy/girl scouts, faith based organizations whatever...etc

Aside from school none of the above was around say 50 years ago. Parents were around more, faith was more common. Can you imagine the 1990's generation at 50? or should I say de-generation.

To answer your question, Yes. Due to the structure of the current societal culture in America, parents outsource alot of their "control". I don't know what its like in NZ..

[Taekwondo Guy]

Originally Posted by na_feu

There there. You guys still have the commonwealth don't you?

Please.
This is irrelevant..
BUT

1. We feed Taiwan. And protect Taiwan from China.

2. So your saying that we don't give our "share" since we earn more? hahahaha. What a socialist.

3. We love the Brits. Our cousins. Aging..cousins.

You cannot reasonably argue that the U.S. does not take lead role in fighting oppression, poverty, terror, bad TV, bad British food, bad body odor, bad teeth...
Who sends the sandbags of rice to the starving people of Idiot land? Who sends Marines to free them from the bully Idiot of Idiot land? lol.

The original point is that we are extraordinarily "well off" in comparison, and one of our main differences with the rest of the west is that most of our population goes to church. American protestant conservative church that teaches american protestant values. Simple.

In the words of your great leader "we have too many imports coming from abroad". Taiwan is a major supplier of electrical goods to the US, in protecting your interests it is wise to look after the country.
Protect a country from the spread of communism, we all know how that last went dont we

Yes i am saying you do not donate enough compared to your GDP, that makes me a socialist? more of a realist...

We mostly are annoyed by young americans, they are like are cousin 'bud', arrogant with a short fuse and not much in the intelligence department.
Caught sometimes jerking off wrapped in the national flag....

You cannot reasonably argue that the U.S. does not take lead role in fighting oppression, poverty, terror, bad TV, bad British food, bad body odor, bad teeth...

WTF, are you 13 years old? what is this all about? bb.com forums is missing a member

Who sends the sandbags of rice to the starving people of Idiot land? Who sends Marines to free them from the bully Idiot of Idiot land? lol.

Going back to the arrogance of young americans... because people have had record droughts, tsunamis, earthquakes etc they are idiots?
Is this what you mean because this is how it comes across....
Last time i checked the US was only too happy to send marines abroad to 'help' a country lol.

The original point is that we are extraordinarily "well off" in comparison, and one of our main differences with the rest of the west is that most of our population goes to church. American protestant conservative church that teaches american protestant values. Simple

Oh so you do have a point in there somewhere.

[narcsarge]

I have stayed out of this debate for awhile but I have followed it. As happy as I am to be living in the U.S., born and raised, I am also disappointed in how arrogant many U.S. citizens have become. Face it folks, the world owes us nothing! Simple as that. Our government seems to spend most of it's time ACTING all high and mighty while putting the screws to it's own citizenry.

Our intelligence agencies suck. (WMD what?)

Our leaders plod into foreign countries and ignore the sage advice from military commanders (Colin Powell to Bush on Iraq).

Yet somehow, our "giving" is suppose to make things right in the world?

Cammo is right na_feu. China "owns" the U.S. debt. If they were to call in our markers, we'd be fubared! Don't think for one minute that our politicians have your best interest in mind. On the contrary, they are in it for themselves, not the greater good.

[Taekwondo Guy]

Originally Posted by na_feu

So. I'm 22 and I own a house and 2 cars. Thats more than 10,000 Chinese put together.

oh this had me laughing....

the US of A is owned pretty much by china yet you have two cars and a house.

So what, your country is pretty much screwed like narc says if they call in their debts which i honestly think they will do.

China is investing heavily in american businesses too, if they wanted they would pull the plug on american economics all together all they have to do is:

* pull out investment - watch american companies go bankrupt
*call in their debt - watch the american economic crisis unravel

China is more powerful than you think.... but thats doesnt matter as you have 2 cars and a house

[na_feu]

lol
I apologize for trying to stick a joke in the discussion...?

Teakwondo...relax, I'm goofing around about bad teeth and idiot land.

Debt to anyone is irrelevant. No one is going to call in thier debt. Our relationship with China is mutually beneficial. I dont care how the politicians line thier own pockets and set up legislation to thier own benefit. Fact of the matter is, I live good and 99.999% chance I will continue to. China can be as powerful as they want, how does it affect na_feu? it doesn't. I live good, better than most of China. My family lives good. My freinds live good. When the evil "debt is called in", which it never will be, we will deal.

Narcsage- I understand people abroad may look at the bigger scope of issues when reflecting on America but you live well and carry on daily without the business of China.

(I have to run to work right now...but someone please look up the national deficit). Its like 100 billion or something. We spent over 300 billion on the war. China relies on us more than we rely on them. We are their main consumer. We can survive without walmart, they need to eat. (and build tanks, of course...which comes before food anyways) They still have parts of the population starving. Does that tell you anything?

No more funnies as I see you Brits only like the "run around the table" kind of humor.

Can we get back to evolution? I'm not educated enough on the subject of China..

And yes, TK Guy: "You dont give your share" is socialist.

[Cammo]

Go educate yourself on subjects before you try debating them - that way you won't look like such an ass.

[na_feu]

Originally Posted by Cammo

Go educate yourself on subjects before you try debating them - that way you won't look like such an ass.

LOL
You have contributed nothing of relevance to this discussion. I am not debating China precisely because I am not educated enough about it. Unlikje you, who does debate when he knows squat. Maybe you ought to stick to discussing your "bald cock".

[Cammo]

Originally Posted by na_feu

LOL
You have contributed nothing of relevance to this discussion. I am not debating China precisely because I am not educated enough about it. Unlikje you, who does debate when he knows squat. Maybe you ought to stick to discussing your "bald cock".

Neg repped...

You have contributed nothing of relevance to the whole forum - I just checked out your posts & out of 5 pages of them there are maybe 2 posts to do with bodybuilding - & even those are lame.

WTF are you doing here son?

It's uneducated yanks like you that give the rest of them a bad name.