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The difference between us and muslims is that they kill by the name of their god.They treat women like animals because their religion says it's ok.It's fine for men to have multiple wifes but if a women cheats, she gets stones to death.

They call their god Allah.I call it Satan.
who told you that muslims treat women like animal? i think most of the porn moviez are made in europe and usa and that is the most humilating thing i have ever seen and believe me having multiple wifes is better than cheating and ****ing women everywhere and also there is so many rules in islam before you can marry more than one woman so stop talking about islam cuz you know nothing
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do u cry when suicide bombers blow up subways in london? or isreal? how about when the wtc was bombed in 1993, did u cry then? did cry when the USS Cole was attacked and 17 american sailors died? what about when Nick Berg and Paul Johnson were beheaded for being american? did u cry then? i seriously doubt it. you only "cry" when muslims are so called victims. SHUT UP! go cry somewhere else. i still say we drop some nukes over there. then you'll really have something to cry about.

u fool wanna listen or not?????....have u read what i ve just said ???....dont just talk BS be4 u read everything and understand EVERY WORD , i said i was so hurted when i saw the wtc attacks and i mean it ....back in 1993 i was a child and ddnt knew about that attacks ....london attacks i was more upset than u moron ....belive me or not u dnt know me u nazi ... , and to be honest with u , the only thing that dont get me upset , are the attacks on israel cuz those nazis deserve it ...or havent u read that a whole army is facing a young man with a klashinkove , the palestinian are the terrorsist , ya right ......a whole army against indiviual weapons ......let the israelis help u when they control ur economy and media and gov........and as for the other child on this thread krenalor ,....dont just play the old game , and judge whether ppl re going to hell or heaven ya right am shaking from fear ,that am gona go to hell .jst bec u said so ....none of u knows one what faith is based in islam ..so SHUT UP AND DONT TALK UNLESS U KNOW.., u silly , when u die u ll know what am talkin about ....
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The difference between us and muslims is that they kill by the name of their god.They treat women like animals because their religion says it's ok.It's fine for men to have multiple wifes but if a women cheats, she gets stones to death.

They call their god Allah.I call it Satan.

here s a real advice for u : dont ever talk about anything u have no idea about , it will show how ignorant u are ...and for ur info , allah is an arabic word meaning : the god , and it is used by arab christians and jews ....oh yes i forgot u got ur info from biased media >>>>>>>>>>>
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who told you that muslims treat women like animal? i think most of the porn moviez are made in europe and usa and that is the most humilating thing i have ever seen and believe me having multiple wifes is better than cheating and ****ing women everywhere and also there is so many rules in islam before you can marry more than one woman so stop talking about islam cuz you know nothing

Being in a porn movie is a choice.They are getting paid for it and these whores like it so much they keep coming back for more.

So having mulitple wifes is better than cheating?Someone f*&*ing multiple women is not cheating because there is rules?How RETARD is that.Question:Can women have multiple husbands?I bet they can't, right?
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here s a real advice for u : dont ever talk about anything u have no idea about , it will show how ignorant u are ...and for ur info , allah is an arabic word meaning : the god , and it is used by arab christians and jews ....oh yes i forgot u got ur info from biased media >>>>>>>>>>>
Oh boy!I feel the anger here.People like you are willing to kill over some cartoons, i imagine you will go on a killing spree because someone on the internet called your god satan.

Allah is great.That's what Bin Laden said after 9/11.I said muslims kills by the name of their god.If i am ignorant, i don't know if there is a word to describe you.
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They call their god Allah.I call it Satan.
I call you an ignorant, uneducated, stupid hillbilly.
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btw i aint trying to insight any racial hatred here, i started this thread as a reply to other threads hoping it wouldnt turn into some battlefield. I love everyone, apart from those who cant have a civilised discussion.
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Muslims are "like that" because among nations where there presence is substantial, they suffer from levels of unemployment ranging from 25-70sh% depending on where they are in the Eurozone. So daily they see western lifestyle, yet can't participate. So in essence what you've got is a little kid jealous of his neighbors toy. There needs to be better labor market integration, which is a protracted and unsettling process which will probably require legislation and fiscal incentives. And if it does occurr it will over many decades.

Also a complete libralization of the press in Iran and certain African nations would slowly reveal (to certain Muslims) how inconsistent their beliefs are with the rest of the world.(they're view on radical Islam)

I'm not sure how accurate the comparison would be, but much of the Muslim world is still living in the Middle ages, they're governed by mythology. They're cause and effect methods of appraising life and choices they make are skewed by fantasy.

That said, Batman is no more real or fake than Mohammed, or Jesus. To base ones life on who Randy Johnson strikes out is much more realistic than assuming you'll have 72 virgins after going boom. Although 72 would be delightful.
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I call you an ignorant, uneducated, stupid hillbilly.
Then how would you call an 80 pound kid trowing a rock at a tank? LOL!!!
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Oh boy!I feel the anger here.People like you are willing to kill over some cartoons, i imagine you will go on a killing spree because someone on the internet called your god satan.

Allah is great.That's what Bin Laden said after 9/11.I said muslims kills by the name of their god.If i am ignorant, i don't know if there is a word to describe you.
did i mention killing in my post ?....have i mentioned killing by the name of god???.....did i appear really angry .....well a bit ...cuz from ur replies i can only see myself talking to a kid ....come on ..use some logic and dont be biased ......""Then how would you call an 80 pound kid throwing a rock at a tank? LOL!!!""".............are u serious in this post , didnt u get the idead of the pic ????????? really ..???
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did i mention killing in my post ?....have i mentioned killing by the name of god???.....did i appear really angry .....well a bit ...cuz from ur replies i can only see myself talking to a kid ....come on ..use some logic and dont be biased ......""Then how would you call an 80 pound kid throwing a rock at a tank? LOL!!!""".............are u serious in this post , didnt u get the idead of the pic ????????? really ..???

Fine, i'll use logic.

Did you mention killing in your post? No you didn't
DId you mentionned killling by the name of god?No you didn't
So why did i said that?

Did i printed the cartoons than sparked the riots?No i didn't
Did all Europeans printed these cartoons?No they didn't
So why are muslims burning down the american flag?
Why are they screaming ¨death to europe¨?

The answer to these questions should be the same.

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Being in a porn movie is a choice.They are getting paid for it and these whores like it so much they keep coming back for more.

So having mulitple wifes is better than cheating?Someone f*&*ing multiple women is not cheating because there is rules?How RETARD is that.Question:Can women have multiple husbands?I bet they can't, right?
they may like being ****ed but not being watched by other ppl and they are forced to do that cuz they need money when women here needs money they prefer to die from hunger rather than being humilated by men like that
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Fine, i'll use logic.

Did you mention killing in your post? No you didn't
DId you mentionned killling by the name of god?No you didn't
So why did i said that?

Did i printed the cartoons than sparked the riots?No i didn't
Did all Europeans printed these cartoons?No they didn't
So why are muslims burning down the american flag?
Why are they screaming ¨death to europe¨?

The answer to these questions should be the same.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/29.htm

have i called for : death to europe ..no
have i burnedthe american flag ..no

u must understand , that i am not defending anyone right here , i am just trying to give u the causes of why muslims are acting like that and when they do something wrong i condemn it , but the problem here , is that as u know everything is governed by : cause and effect ....and ur problem is that u only see the reactions and the effect and not the causes , thats why most of u tend to generalize and wonder why muslims act like that ....well let me remind u ,muslims are humans , they dont love blood and killing of people , frankly it s the most forbidden thing to do in islam ....so what are the causes of such things ???....let s be fair , and admit it , there is a lot of injustice and oppression done to muslims , those conditions have lead the extremist and terrorist to flourish ...so instead of attacking the whole muslim nation and facing it with more violence and oppression try to solve the problem if u are to be fair , bec no matter how strong u think urself , u cant control the whole world and history had provided us with lots of examples,(hitler) and the more violence u use the more extremist will arise ........no one called for the death for europe , and i agree with u the riots were so violent but dont u think that the danish gov could have prevented all that by a simple apology ? why not ?....muslims consider this as intended humiliation ...and they felt they can do nothing about it , so they expressed their anger that way , again i am against the violent riots ......think in it for a moment : david irving was sentenced to 3years in prison just bec he was skeptical about the holocaust ,and although he admited he was wrong , he got a sentence ......a song named : shirak in prison ,was banned from the radio .in france ..u see , there s nothing called total freedom of expression , so why consider it sacred only when it comes to muslims .......in denmark ,few years ago , a danish shoe companie made shoes with the pics of jesus and marry on them , muslims in denmark along with few christians were the only one who protested against that .and have it spread in the media u would have seen demonstartion in the muslim world , bec jesus is sacred in islam , along with all the other prophets ...muslims dont worship a diffrent god : they worship the same god , the god of abraham , moses , jesus and mohammad .......i tried to be calm cuz it s the only way for a constructive debate .....i expect the same thing from u and excuse me if i used a strong language be4 but some replies are just foolish and have no whatsoever respect for the one u re arguing with
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Here is my take on this.


Muslims, who are also terrosrists, use the excuse of "God" to commit an act of hatred. It is unexcusable. No "God" would find delight in having his followers kill their fellow men. How disgusting.

Not all muslims are this way. Most of them are innocent lke the lady that wrote that letter.

U.S. troops who torture prisoners are very much in the wrong and should be punished.

Although the Christians dont have large organized terrorist groups, Im sure there are "Christians" who are terorists. But, they do not use "God" as an excuse. Still, their actions are unexcusable.

Anyone who does harm to a person or a people is in the wrong and should be stopped. U.S. has the power to stop it, so why not make an effort?

The U.S. troops made the decision when they signed up for the armed forces, that they would willingly give their life for their duties as a soldier. A loss of their life is more than expected, but still hard to accept.



so, bottom line is. Not all muslims are terrorists, or bad people. Not all christians are good people. Not all americans are innocent. Americans are to balme as well, but not so much as the terrorist groups who are relentlessly killing innocent people. The terrorist Muslims need to be stopped. They are ruining the world. What do they care what other people are doing? Why kill them for it?
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i agree with most of what u said ......... the best way to stop terrorists is by enhancing the discussion with moderate muslims which are so many , rather than invading a new country every now and then .....i myself have a lot of solutions based on what i see in here .......this is not for u bufflurp as i know that me and u are just ordinary citizens who are not the desicion makers in this world
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have i called for : death to europe ..no
have i burnedthe american flag ..no

u must understand , that i am not defending anyone right here , i am just trying to give u the causes of why muslims are acting like that and when they do something wrong i condemn it , but the problem here , is that as u know everything is governed by : cause and effect ....and ur problem is that u only see the reactions and the effect and not the causes , thats why most of u tend to generalize and wonder why muslims act like that ....well let me remind u ,muslims are humans , they dont love blood and killing of people , frankly it s the most forbidden thing to do in islam ....so what are the causes of such things ???....let s be fair , and admit it , there is a lot of injustice and oppression done to muslims , those conditions have lead the extremist and terrorist to flourish ...so instead of attacking the whole muslim nation and facing it with more violence and oppression try to solve the problem if u are to be fair , bec no matter how strong u think urself , u cant control the whole world and history had provided us with lots of examples,(hitler) and the more violence u use the more extremist will arise ........no one called for the death for europe , and i agree with u the riots were so violent but dont u think that the danish gov could have prevented all that by a simple apology ? why not ?....muslims consider this as intended humiliation ...and they felt they can do nothing about it , so they expressed their anger that way , again i am against the violent riots ......think in it for a moment : david irving was sentenced to 3years in prison just bec he was skeptical about the holocaust ,and although he admited he was wrong , he got a sentence ......a song named : shirak in prison ,was banned from the radio .in france ..u see , there s nothing called total freedom of expression , so why consider it sacred only when it comes to muslims .......in denmark ,few years ago , a danish shoe companie made shoes with the pics of jesus and marry on them , muslims in denmark along with few christians were the only one who protested against that .and have it spread in the media u would have seen demonstartion in the muslim world , bec jesus is sacred in islam , along with all the other prophets ...muslims dont worship a diffrent god : they worship the same god , the god of abraham , moses , jesus and mohammad .......i tried to be calm cuz it s the only way for a constructive debate .....i expect the same thing from u and excuse me if i used a strong language be4 but some replies are just foolish and have no whatsoever respect for the one u re arguing with
I agree with some of the stuff you are saying.It's just that when they burn our flags and embassy while screaming death to Europe, they are putting us all in the same boat.So i don't see why we shouldn't put them all in the same boat as well.
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i agree with most of what u said ......... the best way to stop terrorists is by enhancing the discussion with moderate muslims which are so many , rather than invading a new country every now and then .....i myself have a lot of solutions based on what i see in here .......this is not for u bufflurp as i know that me and u are just ordinary citizens who are not the desicion makers in this world

yeah, for real. The muslim people should speak out against the terrorists groups and condemn their acts. This hopefully would have an effect upon them. I know for a fact that the main leaders of the Muslims know that the terrorists are causing most of the current problems in the world. Why don't they speak out against them? Is there some religious code against this?
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Here is my take on this.


Muslims, who are also terrosrists, use the excuse of "God" to commit an act of hatred. It is unexcusable. No "God" would find delight in having his followers kill their fellow men. How disgusting.

Not all muslims are this way. Most of them are innocent lke the lady that wrote that letter.

U.S. troops who torture prisoners are very much in the wrong and should be punished.

Although the Christians dont have large organized terrorist groups, Im sure there are "Christians" who are terorists. But, they do not use "God" as an excuse. Still, their actions are unexcusable.

Anyone who does harm to a person or a people is in the wrong and should be stopped. U.S. has the power to stop it, so why not make an effort?

The U.S. troops made the decision when they signed up for the armed forces, that they would willingly give their life for their duties as a soldier. A loss of their life is more than expected, but still hard to accept.



so, bottom line is. Not all muslims are terrorists, or bad people. Not all christians are good people. Not all americans are innocent. Americans are to balme as well, but not so much as the terrorist groups who are relentlessly killing innocent people. The terrorist Muslims need to be stopped. They are ruining the world. What do they care what other people are doing? Why kill them for it?
well said BUFFLURP.The riots we have seen in the past weeks reminds us why we can't let Iran have nukes.We know that they are very likely to use them out of hate.Especially when the president said Isreal should be wiped out the map.
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have i called for : death to europe ..no
have i burnedthe american flag ..no

u must understand , that i am not defending anyone right here , i am just trying to give u the causes of why muslims are acting like that and when they do something wrong i condemn it , but the problem here , is that as u know everything is governed by : cause and effect ....and ur problem is that u only see the reactions and the effect and not the causes , thats why most of u tend to generalize and wonder why muslims act like that ....well let me remind u ,muslims are humans , they dont love blood and killing of people , frankly it s the most forbidden thing to do in islam ....so what are the causes of such things ???....let s be fair , and admit it , there is a lot of injustice and oppression done to muslims , those conditions have lead the extremist and terrorist to flourish ...so instead of attacking the whole muslim nation and facing it with more violence and oppression try to solve the problem if u are to be fair , bec no matter how strong u think urself , u cant control the whole world and history had provided us with lots of examples,(hitler) and the more violence u use the more extremist will arise ........no one called for the death for europe , and i agree with u the riots were so violent but dont u think that the danish gov could have prevented all that by a simple apology ? why not ?....muslims consider this as intended humiliation ...and they felt they can do nothing about it , so they expressed their anger that way , again i am against the violent riots ......think in it for a moment : david irving was sentenced to 3years in prison just bec he was skeptical about the holocaust ,and although he admited he was wrong , he got a sentence ......a song named : shirak in prison ,was banned from the radio .in france ..u see , there s nothing called total freedom of expression , so why consider it sacred only when it comes to muslims .......in denmark ,few years ago , a danish shoe companie made shoes with the pics of jesus and marry on them , muslims in denmark along with few christians were the only one who protested against that .and have it spread in the media u would have seen demonstartion in the muslim world , bec jesus is sacred in islam , along with all the other prophets ...muslims dont worship a diffrent god : they worship the same god , the god of abraham , moses , jesus and mohammad .......i tried to be calm cuz it s the only way for a constructive debate .....i expect the same thing from u and excuse me if i used a strong language be4 but some replies are just foolish and have no whatsoever respect for the one u re arguing with
Now let me tear your silly arguments apart!

1. There are lots of oppression and injustices done to lots of people, most aren't as small minded as to think terrorism helps their cause. By paying families of suicide bombers and not acting against them, Muslims cause their own oppression.
2. Terrorist acts are acts of war, we will respond anyway WE see fit.
3. Funny you mentioned Hitler, he was a hero to many Muslims during WW2 and Britain watched the Arabs closely at that time.
4. A DEMOCRATIC government doesn't control what its citizens say and do. The Danish government has NO say in what private citizens say and do. So an apology is nothing, the Danish government would surely love to control their press, but they are not allowed to! I am glad the Muslims enjoy having totalitarian governments, we overthrew ours. If you wait long enough and they encourage terrorist by paying, supporting, training, hiding them, equiping, we will decide your government for you.
5. I am glad the Muslims and Christians combined to get the shoes removed. If the Muslims hadn't of reacted violently, the message of how stupid the cartoons were would have benn received loud and clear. Boycotting Danish goods is the way