is this the democrcy and iraq s liberation they re talkin about !!!!!!!

[ams33]

recent pictures from abu-ghreib prison , showed by an australian television
i ll leave the comments up to u ...try not to be sarcastic , and illogical ....plus , we dont need stereotypes......as for me they broke my heart

[Taekwondo Guy]

better service and quality than what the iraqi's provide for young marines and civilians

this thread is doomed form the start

[Hannainnc]

why not post the actual link where these pictures are from and when?

[Awais_uk]

And then they question muslims, why do they behead innocent citizens?
Either way, two wrongs dont make a right.

[Taekwondo Guy]

abuse of prisoners has been going on for hundreds if not thousands of years, the iraqis are far worse.

do you have the crimes of these certain prisoners, i hardly doubt they were arrested due to protesting at the rise of the price of milk.

[ams33]

Originally Posted by Taekwondo Guy

abuse of prisoners has been going on for hundreds if not thousands of years, the iraqis are far worse.

do you have the crimes of these certain prisoners, i hardly doubt they were arrested due to protesting at the rise of the price of milk.

justifying those acts is not by saying : well everyone s doin it , so let s do it ....the US signed the geneva paper on how to treat war prisoners , i dont think putting stools on them and torturing them by this way is allowed.....besides the US came and said that it will free the iraq from saddam , so u cant say , well this was done by iraqis so let s do it ...whats the diffrence between the US soldiers and saddam then ???......i think if those were animals u would have shed some tears on them , but since they re iraqis and muslims u jst let them go to hell , even no sympathy with them .....this is the stereotype and racial discrimination am talking about .....dont u have any sence of humanity ???

[ams33]

Originally Posted by Hannainnc

why not post the actual link where these pictures are from and when?

:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/4715540.stm

[Taekwondo Guy]

What reaction are you aiming for?

"OH thats awful, lets sign up for al-qaeda and get those men set free!"

or

"oh no, how horrible the west is, lets go burn a KFC or McDonalds"

I have no sympaphy for those men, i am biased towards supporting the US and British troops.

You spout tripe about the geneva convention and being human, get real... war is hell, not a game of tag football.

[dd3060]

Originally Posted by Taekwondo Guy

What reaction are you aiming for?

"OH thats awful, lets sign up for al-qaeda and get those men set free!"

or

"oh no, how horrible the west is, lets go burn a KFC or McDonalds"

I have no sympaphy for those men, i am biased towards supporting the US and British troops.

You spout tripe about the geneva convention and being human, get real... war is hell, not a game of tag football.

and dont forget that geneva convention only applies to UNIFORMED SOLDIERS FIGHTING UNDER THE FLAG OF A COUNTRY. Terrorists are not soldiers, don't wear uniforms and they dont fight under the flag of any country. Therefore the genvea convention does not apply to them.

Originally Posted by ams

i think if those were animals u would have shed some tears on them , but since they re iraqis and muslims u jst let them go to hell , even no sympathy with them .....this is the stereotype and racial discrimination am talking about .....dont u have any sence of humanity ???.

if they were animals i would have shed tears. animals are helpless and dont chop off the heads of people to prove their point. when those muslim animals show some humanity then maybe we will care. until then too bad so sad. it has nothing to do with their race. i dont care if they are white, black, green, red, yellow, catholic, muslim, whatever. if you are a terrorist i have no sympathy for you. those "prisoners" should have been executed on site! they should count their lucky stars they are still alive

[mo3taz]

Originally Posted by dd3060

and dont forget that geneva convention only applies to UNIFORMED SOLDIERS FIGHTING UNDER THE FLAG OF A COUNTRY. Terrorists are not soldiers, don't wear uniforms and they dont fight under the flag of any country. Therefore the genvea convention does not apply to them.





if they were animals i would have shed tears. animals are helpless and dont chop off the heads of people to prove their point. when those muslim animals show some humanity then maybe we will care. until then too bad so sad. it has nothing to do with their race. i dont care if they are white, black, green, red, yellow, catholic, muslim, whatever. if you are a terrorist i have no sympathy for you. those "prisoners" should have been executed on site! they should count their lucky stars they are still alive

this people are not terrorists to defend your country doesnt mean you are a terrorist. the terrorist is the one who kill innocent people for no reason just like what american soldiers did

[dd3060]

Originally Posted by mo3taz

this people are not terrorists to defend your country doesnt mean you are a terrorist. the terrorist is the one who kill innocent people for no reason just like what american soldiers did

they are not terrorists? tell me what uniform do they wear? what country are they fighting for? unless they are UNIFORMED SOLDIERS FIGHTING UNDER THE FLAG OF A COUNTRY they are not entitled to genevea convention protection. if you dont want to call them terrorists fine. the fact is they still are not UNIFORMED SOLDIERS FIGHTING UNDER THE FLAG OF A COUNTRY.

[mo3taz]

Originally Posted by dd3060

they are not terrorists? tell me what uniform do they wear? what country are they fighting for? unless they are UNIFORMED SOLDIERS FIGHTING UNDER THE FLAG OF A COUNTRY they are not entitled to genevea convention protection. if you dont want to call them terrorists fine. the fact is they still are UNIFORMED SOLDIERS FIGHTING UNDER THE FLAG OF A COUNTRY.

do you think that you have the right to kill anyone as they are not uniformed soldier? by the way they are fighting for IRAQ their country

[dd3060]

Originally Posted by mo3taz

do you think that you have the right to kill anyone as they are not uniformed soldier? by the way they are fighting for IRAQ their country

the overwhelming majority of prisioners held in abu grab are not Iraqi. sorry. where is your outrage for terrorists beheading people and blowing up thousands of people? only when america does something wrong you speak up. what happened to those prisoners is not nearly as bad as what the terrorists do.

[TRAZ]

I am sick of these threads.....there will never be a resolution....

[mo3taz]

Originally Posted by dd3060

the overwhelming majority of prisioners held in abu grab are not Iraqi. sorry. where is your outrage for terrorists beheading people and blowing up thousands of people? only when america does something wrong you speak up. what happened to those prisoners is not nearly as bad as what the terrorists do.

we talked about that many times and am really tired from answering that question as it will not change anything so think what you want. all i wanted to know if there is any americans who can be clever enough to know the truth and when we talked about that here i think there was a lot of people that know the truth and thats enough for me

[Bubba04]

i say **** those *****es up......if you aint with us your against us...and for those fags that cry about it....lets round you up and make fun of yall *****es

[Beatin Guts]

like this wasn't happening before the war, or it wasn't worse before the presence of american soldiers! why post this shlt.

[krenalor]

Why don't you post the pictures of the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi victims of Saddam Hussein? I know, it's because you are an anti-American pussy, who loves evil, and supports it by attacking anything good that ever happens. So a few criminals got humilated? Saddam tortured family members, raped, and killed whole villages. But that was okay, as you are a supporter of evil it was great for you.
I expect some balance, if it was me, I would have run on every channel, every commercial break, for a year on end the towers falling in New York. All the churches (with manditory attendance to boot) having Pastors screaming for "infidel blood" and roused the public to such a fury Afghanistan would be smoking nuclear waste (want war-well give it to them no more games, fight it like WW2 and see how much "fun" it is, heck intentionally kill civilians, its war after all). Hell I would have shown the Taliban torturing women, killing people in the soccer fields the UN built for Afghanistan, etc, etc.. They would be so hated, there would be huge parties celebrating the nuclear fires that consumed them.
Then I could say "I am just like an Arab governments, I must find an outside evil to deflect public dismay while I steal money, keep 99% of the people poor, and act in whatever secret evil way I like by controlling the media".
It's simple, quit being a puppet of the media. Be scared-Rumsfeld finally relized the US must do some media reports showing us in a positive light. It wouldn't take much for them to demonize a country and you really don't want the US military attacking you with the intent to kill every living thing in your country. Think thats far fetched? Its pretty much a sure thing we dropped the second nuke on "those yellow nip bastards" while the Japanese had already tried to surrender.

[dd3060]

Originally Posted by krenalor

Why don't you post the pictures of the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi victims of Saddam Hussein? I know, it's because you are an anti-American pussy, who loves evil, and supports it by attacking anything good that ever happens. So a few criminals got humilated? Saddam tortured family members, raped, and killed whole villages. But that was okay, as you are a supporter of evil it was great for you.
I expect some balance, if it was me, I would have run on every channel, every commercial break, for a year on end the towers falling in New York. All the churches (with manditory attendance to boot) having Pastors screaming for "infidel blood" and roused the public to such a fury Afghanistan would be smoking nuclear waste (want war-well give it to them no more games, fight it like WW2 and see how much "fun" it is, heck intentionally kill civilians, its war after all). Hell I would have shown the Taliban torturing women, killing people in the soccer fields the UN built for Afghanistan, etc, etc.. They would be so hated, there would be huge parties celebrating the nuclear fires that consumed them.
Then I could say "I am just like an Arab governments, I must find an outside evil to deflect public dismay while I steal money, keep 99% of the people poor, and act in whatever secret evil way I like by controlling the media".
It's simple, quit being a puppet of the media. Be scared-Rumsfeld finally relized the US must do some media reports showing us in a positive light. It wouldn't take much for them to demonize a country and you really don't want the US military attacking you with the intent to kill every living thing in your country. Think thats far fetched? Its pretty much a sure thing we dropped the second nuke on "those yellow nip bastards" while the Japanese had already tried to surrender.

i applaud this post. finally someone who thinks. here is what i say we should do. its really a simple way to put an end to terrorisim. Bush should go on TV and tell the world that if the United States, a United States interest, or an United States ally (a real ally france doesnt count) is attacked in any way by terrorists we will not hesitate to retaliate with a nuclear strike. so then if there is an attack we pick a middle eastern country, say Iran or the tribal region on the afgan/pakistan border (where bin laden is believed to be hiding like a spineless coward) and drop the nuke. then if we get struck again we drop another. then another and another until they stop. either they learn their lesson or they all die. I can hear it now how horrible and ignorant i am. how innocent people are going to die. well my loyalty is to my country and to my fellow americans and to my family. if some innocent people in the middle east have to die to protect this country than so be it. i guess i'm ignorant. oh well. get it thru your head you anti american liberals. THEY WANT TO KILL US. THEY WANT US ALL TO DIE. there is no reasoning, no negotating, no appeasing. they wont be happy until we are all dead. wake up. we are on the verge of WWIII and thank god we got real americans (republicans) leading us to victory. not some yellow coward liberal like we had for most of the 1990s. this is the greatest country in the history of the world. remember that next time you want to jump on the liberal media band wagon and bash the US. go live in the middle east for a few years then come back and tell me how evil this country is. what is really ignorant is sitting back and letting the terrorists conduct strike after strike thru the whole 1990s and not retaliate at all.