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Old 02-13-2006, 05:02 PM
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well gee, didn't see this one coming...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4709380.stm
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Dang..they are definitely going south on this, Ignorance definitely incite ignorance to the infinite power. And the point they are trying to make is what again??? To see how far our free expression goes? Unbelievable..
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I don't think the Holocaust cartoons will have any impact whatsoever....

People won't like them (of course), but no one will be as offended as the Muslims....

Complete ignorance....why not take the high road and not sink to the level of the originators of the Muhammed cartoon.....Geez...
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I don't think the Holocaust cartoons will have any impact whatsoever....

People won't like them (of course), but no one will be as offended as the Muslims....

Complete ignorance....why not take the high road and not sink to the level of the originators of the Muhammed cartoon.....Geez...
because it is not religion related and it is not true
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because it is not religion related and it is not true
MO, are you saying the Jews are not considered religious groups? Just because you choose not to educate yourself doesn't mean they're not. Or maybe you're implying that the holocaust did not happen? Well let's see now..ample historical proofs have been distributed all over the world and maybe wherever you are they forgot to send some. You're in egypt, right? That figures....

And by the way....I hardly doubt the Jewish populous would react the same way that the Muslims have.
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The Islamic groups are well, ... passionate... about what they do. And their religion is a very serious thing. Of course the fact they are killing thousands of people around the globe with terrorist attacks is not an acceptable thing, thats what they beleive in.

With this instance of slamming the Jews with holocaust cartoons, they are just acting immaturely. Islamic people are too uptight about everything. IE. i hear someone say "J.C." taking the LORD's name in vain fairly often, and poeple are offended, but they dont start riots over it. I'm sure if someone took the name of mohammad and desecrated it, or used it inappropriately they would freak out and start bombing people and taking hostage on people, and just causing problems. These people really are not acting wiseley. Just let it go for the love of all that is holy.

Meaning no disrespect, but the muslims really cause most of the global problems as far as international relations go. They need to re-evaluate what they are actaully doing. Had they never plane-bombed the WTC, and the 5, on 9/11 we would have never launched this unholy campaign against terrorism. If people would just make sure they and their own people are being taken care of the world would be a better place. Stop worrying about other people. When a threat is made, then protect, but the Terrorist groups are deliberately causing problems and trying to hurt people that have no influence on them and how they live. Why? why would they do that? it's ridiculous and evil. I dont see any other groups of people out around the world trying to kill people just for the hell of it. Yeah, some people are driven by the lust of money to do evil things, but the Al-Qaeda and muslim people that are associated are doing it just to do it with no real motive. They think they are doing it in the name of Allah, their god, as a free pas to heaven. What kind of a God would require that you kill people to gain access to their domain? Satan. But that's my opinion anyways.
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It's plain and simple to see. They are a few circuits short. That's the power of brainwash.....if someone told me from an early age that if you're not a muslim, you must be an infidel then I would surely be in the same state of mind as them. But, let's back up. It's not all muslims who have a thought process like the one I mentioned; it's the fanatics! the people who believes they are at war with the world because they don't want to progress to better their lives. their way of thinking. they just want to stay in the dark ages where men are men and women are pleasure outlets. It's sad really. I feel for them in a way. When you're brainwashed into thinking that your God is going to award you 7 virgins if you'd die for the cause: powerful stuff. I would definitely die for the cause; They don't believe there are anymore virgins left around here on earth so the afterlife definitely looks REAL good. But then the flipside of that theory? They probably didn't even think it through, when the virgins have all been had (after they do the deed) who are they going to kill next?? Oh my!!
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It's plain and simple to see. They are a few circuits short. That's the power of brainwash.....if someone told me from an early age that if you're not a muslim, you must be an infidel then I would surely be in the same state of mind as them. But, let's back up. It's not all muslims who have a thought process like the one I mentioned; it's the fanatics! the people who believes they are at war with the world because they don't want to progress to better their lives. their way of thinking. they just want to stay in the dark ages where men are men and women are pleasure outlets. It's sad really. I feel for them in a way. When you're brainwashed into thinking that your God is going to award you 7 virgins if you'd die for the cause: powerful stuff. I would definitely die for the cause; They don't believe there are anymore virgins left around here on earth so the afterlife definitely looks REAL good. But then the flipside of that theory? They probably didn't even think it through, when the virgins have all been had (after they do the deed) who are they going to kill next?? Oh my!!

true, if you have been taught a certain thing since childhood, you will certainly be more inclined to think that way. Still, i dont believe in calling it "brainwashed" if it is a religious beleif whatever it may be. Thats what you teach your children because you beleive it is for the better. You are not trying to brainwash them. If that is what is considered brainwashing, then the whole world has been brainwashed by their parents and forebearers. Now, have you been taken by somebody, a stranger, and they get you to think they are your parents or tell you things that you know are wrong and eventually accept them, that is brainwashing. Messing with someones normal thinking and beleif process. But thats how i see it.

I dont beleive the Islamic peole are brainwasehd, they just beleive incorrectly that killing innocent people is for a greater cause. I can't concieve of a god who commands to slay the innocent and good hearted. I just can't see that. I see a god who ma need to kill wicked people for the greater good of the world. Yet, we americans as a whole are not that wicked, as far as the Islamic people are taught. It is just wacky to me. I dont see the Islamic people as wicked. Just those who are actually trying to hurt innocent people, and of whatever relgious background it may be. There are many Jewish, buddhist, Christian, Hindu, Athiest, etc. people who are just as bad, if not worse or than the Islamic terrosrists. The fact is that the islamic nations have gained a reputaition as conspirators, and evil people. Which is in most ways unfair because those that are innocent are looked down upon by the world and are discriminated against especially here in the U.S. and now G.B.(UK) because of the terrorist groups there.
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And by the way....I hardly doubt the Jewish populous would react the same way that the Muslims have.

you are right about that.
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MO, are you saying the Jews are not considered religious groups? Just because you choose not to educate yourself doesn't mean they're not. Or maybe you're implying that the holocaust did not happen? Well let's see now..ample historical proofs have been distributed all over the world and maybe wherever you are they forgot to send some. You're in egypt, right? That figures....

And by the way....I hardly doubt the Jewish populous would react the same way that the Muslims have.
i didnt say that they are not religious group. most of you guyz has no idea about islam so dont take your information from the media if any one interrested in knowing the truth about islam he can contact and i will explain anything he want to know about islam
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Its about 15-20 % of the muslim/Islamic peoples are fanatic. People like Osama Bin Laden want to restore the world back to "The Golden Age" when the middle east had its own "industrial revolution" of sorts. If you know anything about religous history during the Golden Age the Islamic people controlled a huge portion of Europe/Russia/and Northern Africa. They want to set up another great Islamic empire like before. Bin Laden thinks we poison the world and spread evil. Chances are even if we pulled out of Iraq we would still be attacked. For VARIOUS reasons it essentially boils down to Arab/Israeli conflict over stuff that happened thousands of years ago.
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yeah and don't forget to add our insatiable appetite for oil...Black gold , baby.
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