The evils of Walmart

[bobert11284]

Not only is Walmart a gathering of the biggest red-necks in town, it also is terrible for small town economies.
Heres why...
When Walmart moves in, it brings with it low prices and everything under one roof. Small local businesses can't compete, going out of business, causing a loss of jobs. These people have to go to Walmart for employment, working at a subsistance level, barely able to pay their bills.

Walmart can only provide those prices by buying from the foreign market, and slaping an all American theme commercial on television.

What do you think of this?

I think it is disgusting

[TrainedMind]

Originally Posted by bobert11284

Not only is Walmart a gathering of the biggest red-necks in town, it also is terrible for small town economies.
Heres why...
When Walmart moves in, it brings with it low prices and everything under one roof.

And this is wrong because... small businesses cant compete? Not walmarts problem

Originally Posted by bobert11284

Small local businesses can't compete, going out of business, causing a loss of jobs. These people have to go to Walmart for employment, working at a subsistance level, barely able to pay their bills.

I don't think it's walmart's responsibility to provide high wages for a no brainer kind of work. If those people want to work somewhere else then they need to better their education. Plus the employment is not forced upon them. and since the employment is a lateral move anyways they are not taking any pay cut.

Originally Posted by bobert11284

Walmart can only provide those prices by buying from the foreign market, and slaping an all American theme commercial on television.

well we buy oil and other foreign products that you yourself happily use. What's the difference?

Originally Posted by bobert11284

What do you think of this?

I think it's great..it makes the world go 'round

Originally Posted by bobert11284

I think it is disgusting

Sorry. but that's the beauty of this world, you have the dough you have the go!

[bobert11284]

Do you think it is that easy for everyone to better their education? Society isn't as level a playing field as we would like to think it is. Just because you or I managed to get to college, doesn't mean everyone can!

[t_dot_porkchop]

why should it be easy??? that is the problem with people today. they expect everything to be easy. it is not. its not level either and it should never be. some people work harder/smarter than others, so they should be rewarded with success.

and you should thank walmart for hiring people who have no skills

[Taekwondo Guy]

If the rednecks stayed in school or buckled down in their studies they wouldnt be working in Walmart full stop

i worked in food stores for 3 years, only to get some money while i was in college.

There is no competition when it comes to large chains of food stores, they can afford to slash their prices to attract the customers. Commerce is evolving from small stores for the community.

Times are changing, its not 1950 anymore, get over it

[bobert11284]

Alright, this is going in another direction. I never said anything about being easy. I see walmart as bad for small town American economy.

It isn't about hiring people with no skill, it is about people having no where else to go but walmart.

Lets say a single Mom used to work at a local department store. They paid her around 9 dollars an hour. Well Walmart moved in, and now she is paid minimum wage. Is that cool?

Now, I am not talking about in cities or even large towns. I am talking those towns that the only thing left is a walmart. I know you have visited or driven thru these places before.
Maybe I'm wrong and this is just a midwest issue? I dunno? I just think it sucks

[TrainedMind]

Originally Posted by bobert11284

Do you think it is that easy for everyone to better their education? Society isn't as level a playing field as we would like to think it is. Just because you or I managed to get to college, doesn't mean everyone can!

I came here to America 17 years ago. I knew not a single word of english (well maybe one or two, enough to say where's the bathroom) but hey. look at me now. EDUCATION. I understand not everyone can go to college and rightfully so. some people are not meant to go to college but darned it most people go to college cause they don't want to work for places such as Walmart. They want to be self employed and make money for themselves. Walmart is not disgusting for doing what they are doing. They are helping the economy.

[TrainedMind]

Originally Posted by bobert11284

Alright, this is going in another direction. I never said anything about being easy. I see walmart as bad for small town American economy.

It isn't about hiring people with no skill, it is about people having no where else to go but walmart.

Lets say a single Mom used to work at a local department store. They paid her around 9 dollars an hour. Well Walmart moved in, and now she is paid minimum wage. Is that cool?

Now, I am not talking about in cities or even large towns. I am talking those towns that the only thing left is a walmart. I know you have visited or driven thru these places before.
Maybe I'm wrong and this is just a midwest issue? I dunno? I just think it sucks

I don't know Bob. But I think you are not giving single Mom's enough credit there. I see many of them thankful that they have a job and have the ability to feed their young ones. And I hardly doubt that WalMart has the ability to deplete competition just in a matter of a few years. I'm sure there's still a Ma and Pa store around there in the midwest.

[bobert11284]

Originally Posted by Taekwondo Guy

If the rednecks stayed in school or buckled down in their studies they wouldnt be working in Walmart full stop

i worked in food stores for 3 years, only to get some money while i was in college.

There is no competition when it comes to large chains of food stores, they can afford to slash their prices to attract the customers. Commerce is evolving from small stores for the community.

Times are changing, its not 1950 anymore, get over it

What is 1950 about this, is the "pull yourself up by your own bootstrap" mentality. Things aren't so black and white. Some people will work hard their whole life to make something of themselves only to end up working at places like this.

It isn't just rednecks who don't care who work at places like this. And again, I am talking about what it does for the community, not the quality of people who work at these places. When you have lived in a community your whole life, and you have a family, and a job that pays well, and then huge corperation causes you to lose your job, you have two options. Leave your town, or except a low paying job.

This could cause a death for small towns. If people leave, who will buy their homes from them? No one. What will happen to realestate? It will hit the mud. How then can people afford to leave, when the house they paid $95,000 is now worth $42,000? They can't and still have enough money to pay their mortgage.

I am looking at this from an overall economy thing, not an individual who is lazy and works at wally world stand point.

[TrainedMind]

Originally Posted by bobert11284

What is 1950 about this, is the "pull yourself up by your own bootstrap" mentality. Things aren't so black and white. Some people will work hard their whole life to make something of themselves only to end up working at places like this.

How can you sit there in front of your computer and ask all these question and not seee the obvious answers in front of you? It is not Big Corporations that are putting people in these situations but themselves. Living way beyond their means is the mentality that most Americans have and that's sad.

Originally Posted by bobert11284

It isn't just rednecks who don't care who work at places like this. And again, I am talking about what it does for the community, not the quality of people who work at these places. When you have lived in a community your whole life, and you have a family, and a job that pays well, and then huge corperation causes you to lose your job, you have two options. Leave your town, or except a low paying job.

Again, I highly doubt people with high paying careers would be forced to accept a walmart wage. It just doesn't happen. I didn't think it was that bad in the midwest...

[Hannainnc]

Originally Posted by bobert11284

Alright, this is going in another direction. I never said anything about being easy. I see walmart as bad for small town American economy.

It isn't about hiring people with no skill, it is about people having no where else to go but walmart.

Lets say a single Mom used to work at a local department store. They paid her around 9 dollars an hour. Well Walmart moved in, and now she is paid minimum wage. Is that cool?

Now, I am not talking about in cities or even large towns. I am talking those towns that the only thing left is a walmart. I know you have visited or driven thru these places before.
Maybe I'm wrong and this is just a midwest issue? I dunno? I just think it sucks

Single moms making minimum wage have soooo much opportunity to better their lives. They can get aid and have the govt pay for them to go to school and at the same time get subsidized child care while they are going to school. At the end of the year they end up with NO tax liability and the govt pays them earned income credit, not to mention the child tax credit of $1000 per kid. If I got a divorce I would be better off come tax time, not to mention the child support I would be receiving.

It is not walmart's fault that people make crappy wages.

Walmart in my town is full of rednecks...I still shop there sometimes...they have rollbacks ya know?

[skibumm233]

Originally Posted by bobert11284

Alright, this is going in another direction. I never said anything about being easy. I see walmart as bad for small town American economy.

It isn't about hiring people with no skill, it is about people having no where else to go but walmart.

Lets say a single Mom used to work at a local department store. They paid her around 9 dollars an hour. Well Walmart moved in, and now she is paid minimum wage. Is that cool?

Now, I am not talking about in cities or even large towns. I am talking those towns that the only thing left is a walmart. I know you have visited or driven thru these places before.
Maybe I'm wrong and this is just a midwest issue? I dunno? I just think it sucks

Yeah but now she can go to walmart and buy things at cheapers prices, so in a round about way she is making the same amount of money, right?

[t_dot_porkchop]

Originally Posted by bobert11284

Now, I am not talking about in cities or even large towns. I am talking those towns that the only thing left is a walmart. I know you have visited or driven thru these places before.
Maybe I'm wrong and this is just a midwest issue? I dunno? I just think it sucks

how is that possible? i doubt the people that run walmart would put up a store to only service a few people in a small town, AND they ALL happen to work at walmart.

there MUST be other jobs or else who would shop at the walmart?

[sonicbum]

Originally Posted by Hannainnc

they have rollbacks ya know?

hhhahahaaa, that was funny!!

[TRAZ]

Yeah I hate going to Wal-Mart, but that is only b/c I hate the nasty people there and that is only because the proces are so low (you think your Wal-Mart is bad try living in a small town in southern Mississippi )...then again I hate the mall even more for the same reasons....Wal-Mart isn't evil it is just big. They got where they are by smart business practices....Capitalism pure and simple. They actually help the economy b/c people save money by shopping there and they employ hundreds of people in each store....around my town that is a hell of alot...when a Wal-Mart comes to a small town around where I live it is considered a Godsend....


BTW TrainedMind that is pretty cool that you didn't know English when you came here...I couldn't even tell it wasn't your first language....

Education is good!

[sonicbum]

i love walmart!!!!!! i shop for low prices!!!!

i find it pointless to buy a t-**** for twice as much from an american worker when you can get it for dirt cheap from some china import!!

i praise companies like walmart, companies like this make our capitalist economy so successful!!!!

imho, people that worry about "minimun wage" and such arent gonna get a decent paying job no matter what the situation is. People that havent traveled outside of the usa should realize there is a reason that we STILL have soooo many immarants, legal and not...

[fadi]

Originally Posted by bobert11284

Do you think it is that easy for everyone to better their education? Society isn't as level a playing field as we would like to think it is. Just because you or I managed to get to college, doesn't mean everyone can!

Dude! I had to go to school while my town being bombed. I've been shot at, was in the middle of civil war, we had unscheduled time off schools while the fighting went on yet we all went to school. I had to go to different countries to be able to get educated and I flew 8000 miles and lived on my own in a foreign country for me to get my college education and I paid full tuition and worked my ass off to better myself.

Now please explain to me what is not easy about education here other than Uncle Sam won't pay us to study crap?

[fadi]

Walmart pays minimum wage. If you want more than minimum wage, then you should be worth more than minimum wage. Walmart also sells products much cheaper than anyone else which means more people in the towns now can afford to buy more stuff with their money.

Now, if walmart was buying local stores and closing them, then yes it would be an issue. But if they are offering jobs for unqualified people and offering products at a discount price for the population, then god bless them.

No one is forced to work there, and no one is forced to buy from them.

[fadi]

Originally Posted by t_dot_porkchop

why should it be easy??? that is the problem with people today. they expect everything to be easy. it is not. its not level either and it should never be. some people work harder/smarter than others, so they should be rewarded with success.

and you should thank walmart for hiring people who have no skills

Amen to that