The evils of Walmart

[fadi]

Suppliers can choose not to sell to walmart.

[nick_rogers]

Originally Posted by fadi

Suppliers can choose not to sell to walmart.

Yes........but they "need" their products in WalMart...the exposure is huge...Suppliers often give kick-backs for floor space in stores/chains....

[fadi]

Originally Posted by nick_rogers

Yes........but they "need" their products in WalMart...the exposure is huge...Suppliers often give kick-backs for floor space in stores/chains....

So they are making the choice to do so to expand their business. How is that Walmart's problem

[TRAZ]

It is just business as usual as far as Capitalism is concerned.....people just start getting upset whenever companies start doing really well and becoming big....

BTW....I didn't know that about you Fadi....pretty inspiring!

[sonicbum]

Originally Posted by fadi

Walmart pays minimum wage. If you want more than minimum wage, then you should be worth more than minimum wage. Walmart also sells products much cheaper than anyone else which means more people in the towns now can afford to buy more stuff with their money.

Now, if walmart was buying local stores and closing them, then yes it would be an issue. But if they are offering jobs for unqualified people and offering products at a discount price for the population, then god bless them.

No one is forced to work there, and no one is forced to buy from them.

amen brotha man!!!!

[sonicbum]

Originally Posted by TRAZ

It is just business as usual as far as Capitalism is concerned.....people just start getting upset whenever companies start doing really well and becoming big....

BTW....I didn't know that about you Fadi....pretty inspiring!

yea, he will be a self-made millionare soon....if he's not already...

[fadi]

Originally Posted by TRAZ

It is just business as usual as far as Capitalism is concerned.....people just start getting upset whenever companies start doing really well and becoming big....

BTW....I didn't know that about you Fadi....pretty inspiring!

yeah I had a thread about it trying to push people about educating kids. Honestly it was not a bad time or difficult really because it was the natural thing to do. Everyone goes to school and gets a good job, period.

EDIT:

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[TRAZ]

Originally Posted by fadi

yeah I had a thread about it trying to push people about educating kids. Honestly it was not a bad time or difficult really because it was the natural thing to do. Everyone goes to school and gets a good job, period.

EDIT:

Here is the link for it http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/fo...ad.php?t=29424

Thanks man!

[bobert11284]

True, not every company in town will go out of business. But in many towns when a walmart moves in, and the others go out, you start a monopoly. There is only one place to buy grocieries, one place to buy pots and pans, you get the idea.

If people lose their jobs, and there is no other place for them to work, they draw unemeployment, that comes from your taxes. Do you want to pay?

If all the small towns in your state go down in capita, how do you think that will affect you? Do you think you live in a bubble and that your taxes won't change, your realestate values will continue to increase, and your state will hold prestige. Look at the state of West Virginia. Poor little towns scattered through out due to a bad economy, do you wanna live with that? Just a question.

I understand that on the world wide scheme, the US is light years ahead of others, but don't you like the way your living now? Do you wanna make cuts in your lifestyle? I don't. Some guy in Africa may be thrilled with his grass hut, but I'm not giving up my house!

[Beatin Guts]

i say praise wallmart!!! It gives many employment oppertunities that many smaller towns in america would otherwise not have....Your 35 year old reject brother now has a job so he can get his fat lazy A** off the couch thanks to wallmart. In addition isnt the point of capital gain is to buy low and sell high. You want to buy product at a low price!
If the stock market started selling shares for lower then the normal rate you would buy!!! it is as simple as that! wallmart makes many families dollar go a lot further!! so i say hell ya wallmart.....white trash rocks!!!

[TRAZ]

Originally Posted by bobert11284

True, not every company in town will go out of business. But in many towns when a walmart moves in, and the others go out, you start a monopoly. There is only one place to buy grocieries, one place to buy pots and pans, you get the idea.

If people lose their jobs, and there is no other place for them to work, they draw unemeployment, that comes from your taxes. Do you want to pay?

If all the small towns in your state go down in capita, how do you think that will affect you? Do you think you live in a bubble and that your taxes won't change, your realestate values will continue to increase, and your state will hold prestige. Look at the state of West Virginia. Poor little towns scattered through out due to a bad economy, do you wanna live with that? Just a question.

I understand that on the world wide scheme, the US is light years ahead of others, but don't you like the way your living now? Do you wanna make cuts in your lifestyle? I don't. Some guy in Africa may be thrilled with his grass hut, but I'm not giving up my house!

Even in my small town (Hattiesburg, MS....I bet you have never heard of it!) there is a Target as well...Wal-Mart has competition even in the smallest of towns...

[fadi]

Originally Posted by bobert11284

True, not every company in town will go out of business. But in many towns when a walmart moves in, and the others go out, you start a monopoly. There is only one place to buy grocieries, one place to buy pots and pans, you get the idea.

If people lose their jobs, and there is no other place for them to work, they draw unemeployment, that comes from your taxes. Do you want to pay?

If all the small towns in your state go down in capita, how do you think that will affect you? Do you think you live in a bubble and that your taxes won't change, your realestate values will continue to increase, and your state will hold prestige. Look at the state of West Virginia. Poor little towns scattered through out due to a bad economy, do you wanna live with that? Just a question.

I understand that on the world wide scheme, the US is light years ahead of others, but don't you like the way your living now? Do you wanna make cuts in your lifestyle? I don't. Some guy in Africa may be thrilled with his grass hut, but I'm not giving up my house!

you know... when the industrial revolution came, people thought everyone would lose their jobs because machines are capable of doing better jobs. We are still here. When the computer revolution came, everyone thought only college grads would have jobs and the rest would be unemployed. We are still here.

Walmart is far from being a monopoly. Cable companies, phone companies, car makers, software giants are closer to be a monopoly than walmart.

What about the impact of Walmart on the economy? what about the millions of people who have not seen pay increases and minimum pay increases that match the increasing inflation and finally can buy more with their money from walmart?

What about the companies that had their margins cut due to the price competition but increased volume due to the size of walmart? what about the thousands of Walmart employees? want them to lose their jobs?

I don't get it, if the employees are willing to work there, companies are willing to do business with them, the general public are willing to do business with them, why do you want to close them or attack them?

[t_dot_porkchop]

fadi....you are wasting your time. every once in a while, you catch one of these "holier than thou" asssholes who are just looking for something to complain about.

it is not even original thought....ive seen his exact first post elsewhere by other bleeding hearts.

[Beatin Guts]

Originally Posted by t_dot_porkchop

fadi....you are wasting your time. every once in a while, you catch one of these "holier than thou" asssholes who are just looking for something to complain about.

it is not even original thought....ive seen his exact first post elsewhere by other bleeding hearts.

lets just shoot him and save time!!!!!

[Fuse]

theres 2 parts of this argument that you HAVE to differentiate:

1)
The Adam Smith argument that competition is good, WalMart is a big company with the accompanying economies of scale, they buy in bulk and the sell in volume at lower prices to boost revenue.

2)
The labour market is only indicative of how good an economy is (DUH), and how much you get paid depends on your level of skill,

if you worked hard in life and still end up in a ****hole, that sucks for you, the world isnt going to stop and go "awwwww" because everyone's too busy with themselves, as abrose once said (paraphrased): Selfishness = not caring for the selfishness of others.

for the record, there are VERY few pure monopolies, most industries in markets are oligopolies or monopolistic competition type situations, since cartels are legally prohibeted *coughOPECcough*

[TrainedMind]

Originally Posted by TRAZ

BTW TrainedMind that is pretty cool that you didn't know English when you came here...I couldn't even tell it wasn't your first language....

Education is good!

Only in America where an illiterate can get the arsenal to better themselves and become who ever they want to, too bad I can't ever run for president; or wait a minute maybe that's good. Oh well, back to WalMart:

I personally shop at costco walmart can't compete with that. Maybe someday soon.

[fadi]

Originally Posted by t_dot_porkchop

fadi....you are wasting your time. every once in a while, you catch one of these "holier than thou" asssholes who are just looking for something to complain about.

it is not even original thought....ive seen his exact first post elsewhere by other bleeding hearts.

Yes I know, sometimes it is just painful to see some people think the way they do

[fumbrunner]

Originally Posted by bobert11284

True, not every company in town will go out of business. But in many towns when a walmart moves in, and the others go out, you start a monopoly. There is only one place to buy grocieries, one place to buy pots and pans, you get the idea.

If people lose their jobs, and there is no other place for them to work, they draw unemeployment, that comes from your taxes. Do you want to pay?

If all the small towns in your state go down in capita, how do you think that will affect you? Do you think you live in a bubble and that your taxes won't change, your realestate values will continue to increase, and your state will hold prestige. Look at the state of West Virginia. Poor little towns scattered through out due to a bad economy, do you wanna live with that? Just a question.

I understand that on the world wide scheme, the US is light years ahead of others, but don't you like the way your living now? Do you wanna make cuts in your lifestyle? I don't. Some guy in Africa may be thrilled with his grass hut, but I'm not giving up my house!

Sounds like someone hot laid off because a walmart opened.

Listen, its all about choice. Dont blame Walmart for their business strategy. If you want to blame anyone, blame the bargain hunting individuals in your town that look at price above all else. No one is forcing them to shop at walmart. It's their choice.

And I agree with everyone here. There is nothing stopping people from getting a better education and a better job. Most people are at Walmart by choice, not circumstance. Let's face it, they are minimum wage jobs, given the skills that you need to do that work. They should be paid accordingly.

You would have much more success in arguing about Walmart's lack of discretion when buying from countries that use child labour.

[jennyd]

Originally Posted by fadi

Now, if walmart was buying local stores and closing them, then yes it would be an issue. But if they are offering jobs for unqualified people and offering products at a discount price for the population, then god bless them.

This is the only thing that I was thinking as I read this thread. I could see bobert's point if this were the case.
If you are a business owner, whether it be a small business or whatnot....and Walmart moved in and ultimately shut your business down. And then there goes all of these little mom and pop shops that people worked their entire lives for.
That would suck.

[TrainedMind]

Originally Posted by jennyd

This is the only thing that I was thinking as I read this thread. I could see bobert's point if this were the case.
If you are a business owner, whether it be a small business or whatnot....and Walmart moved in and ultimately shut your business down. And then there goes all of these little mom and pop shops that people worked their entire lives for.
That would suck.

Yes true. I