Canadian Election

[Arch Enemy]

Originally Posted by dd3060

i think you have a valid point but to say US is the cause of alot of misery to the rest of the world is a very ridiculous statement. everytime there is a disaster the world comes running to us for aid and money. what about all the good (and there is plenty of it) this country does. if it werent for america the world would be a much much more dangerous place... i.e. France would be called Germany today if it werent (largely) for the americans, Saddamm was still be torturing people, Bin Laden wouldnt be hiding in a cave, the taliban would still be running afganastan 50 million people in Afganastan and Iraq are now free and VOTING because of the united states.... american men and women have shed alot of blood for alot of other countries. you should reconginze that instead of saying we are the cause of misery. America is the greatest country IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD, IMO. I am glad you love your country. canada is not an enemy of america and i have been to canada and think it is a great place. let's leave it at that. good luck with your bodybuilding..

Good points.

Nonetheless, Americans can still do more.

[charby]

Originally Posted by dd3060

i think you have a valid point but to say US is the cause of alot of misery to the rest of the world is a very ridiculous statement. everytime there is a disaster the world comes running to us for aid and money. what about all the good (and there is plenty of it) this country does. if it werent for america the world would be a much much more dangerous place... i.e. France would be called Germany today if it werent (largely) for the americans, Saddamm was still be torturing people, Bin Laden wouldnt be hiding in a cave, the taliban would still be running afganastan 50 million people in Afganastan and Iraq are now free and VOTING because of the united states.... american men and women have shed alot of blood for alot of other countries. you should reconginze that instead of saying we are the cause of misery. America is the greatest country IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD, IMO. I am glad you love your country. canada is not an enemy of america and i have been to canada and think it is a great place. let's leave it at that. good luck with your bodybuilding..

How many Iraqis died at the hands of Bush and the U.S. compared to Sadaam's? Free but dead. That's helps a whole lot. Do you think Bin Laden just closed his eyes and pointed to a country to terrorize or do you not see there was more to it. How much do you think those votes really count in a U.S, run country? Do these people even pocess the knowledge and experience it takes to vote? You don't simply create democracy by killing anyone who opposes it. Democracy needs to be taught. Yes the U.S. has done alot of good, but like I said there are always 2 sides. The only country is in the history of the world to use the most deadly weapon of mass destruction is the one going around controling them? That's like putting a 6 year old in charge of a cookie jar or an alcoholic on the night shift at the liquor store. I'm able to see the good and the bad in most situations, you seem to only want to listen to the parts that stroke your ego. Eitherway, this topic was about CANADIAN elections. Not the global view of America. That's the last I'll say about it.

[dd3060]

Originally Posted by charby

How many Iraqis died at the hands of Bush and the U.S. compared to Sadaam's? Free but dead. That's helps a whole lot. Do you think Bin Laden just closed his eyes and pointed to a country to terrorize or do you not see there was more to it. How much do you think those votes really count in a U.S, run country? Do these people even pocess the knowledge and experience it takes to vote? You don't simply create democracy by killing anyone who opposes it. Democracy needs to be taught. Yes the U.S. has done alot of good, but like I said there are always 2 sides. The only country is in the history of the world to use the most deadly weapon of mass destruction is the one going around controling them? That's like putting a 6 year old in charge of a cookie jar or an alcoholic on the night shift at the liquor store. I'm able to see the good and the bad in most situations, you seem to only want to listen to the parts that stroke your ego. Eitherway, this topic was about CANADIAN elections. Not the global view of America. That's the last I'll say about it.

go ahead and justify bin laden. it is america's fault right? lol like i said earlier good luck with your body building. last i'll say about it also

[fumbrunner]

Originally Posted by dd3060

go ahead and justify bin laden. it is america's fault right?

Yes, yes it is. But that is a whole other thread.

Muslims/sympathisers on terrorists

[Primevci]

Originally Posted by dd3060

actually there is no competition between the US and Canada. if we wanted to we could conquer you in a day. lol. actually I dont have any problems with Canada, (well maybe the french canadians lol). i was just stating my opinion that i was happy that the liberal got voted out. and obviously alot of people in canada feel that way too since they voted him out.

And you wonder why we are at war.... and i really hate to say it but america is the new Rome...

[PigOnTheWing]

Originally Posted by fumbrunner

Yes, yes it is. But that is a whole other thread.

Muslims/sympathisers on terrorists

America's fault that some terrorists high jacked planes and killed 3000 people? that's like saying its a woman's fault she gets raped because of what she was wearing. im not a conservative or anything (far from it) but i see that the blame america first mentality is one of the reasons liberals cant elections anymore. what a joke that you say that... shows what kind of a person you are

[TRAZ]

Ok...isn't this thread about the CANADIAN ELECTION.....

[PigOnTheWing]

Originally Posted by charby

How many Iraqis died at the hands of Bush and the U.S. compared to Sadaam's? Free but dead. That's helps a whole lot. Do you think Bin Laden just closed his eyes and pointed to a country to terrorize or do you not see there was more to it. How much do you think those votes really count in a U.S, run country? Do these people even pocess the knowledge and experience it takes to vote? You don't simply create democracy by killing anyone who opposes it. Democracy needs to be taught. Yes the U.S. has done alot of good, but like I said there are always 2 sides. The only country is in the history of the world to use the most deadly weapon of mass destruction is the one going around controling them? That's like putting a 6 year old in charge of a cookie jar or an alcoholic on the night shift at the liquor store. I'm able to see the good and the bad in most situations, you seem to only want to listen to the parts that stroke your ego. Eitherway, this topic was about CANADIAN elections. Not the global view of America. That's the last I'll say about it.

have to disagree there. i dont agree with the Iraq war at all but the iraqi government (at least now) is a freely elected government by the iraqi people and should be recognized as such in the world. in all fairness they did vote for their leaders that are running the country right now. you could have made that argument before december but i think we should recognize that the iraqi people did freely elect that government. IMO

[PigOnTheWing]

Originally Posted by dd3060

actually there is no competition between the US and Canada. if we wanted to we could conquer you in a day. lol. actually I dont have any problems with Canada, (well maybe the french canadians lol). i was just stating my opinion that i was happy that the liberal got voted out. and obviously alot of people in canada feel that way too since they voted him out.

statements like that are the reason alot of world hates america. stupid thing to say

[houseman]

Originally Posted by dd3060

and actually by reading your previous posts i seriously doubt your conservative.

You obviuously don't read so well.

[martydup]

Originally Posted by dd3060

actually there is no competition between the US and Canada. if we wanted to we could conquer you in a day. lol.

One on one, we wouldn't stand a chance.Irak was a piece of cake because no country were on their side.However, too many countries would be on our side if another one would attack us.We are the most peacefull country and we help others as much as we can.

Anyway, i don't know why is this becoming a US vs Canada thread.Sure we have our differences.Personnaly, i don't like Bush and his admin., but it's not taking anything away from the average people like me.

[PigOnTheWing]

Originally Posted by fumbrunner

Yes, yes it is. But that is a whole other thread.

Muslims/sympathisers on terrorists

i agree with you marty that was a stupid thing for dd3060 to say. but the above quote is absolutely appauling. to say 3000 innocent people getting slaughtered by terrorist is the fault of america, like i said earlier i am not a great ally of the US but i am embarrassed for the average people in canada that he said that.

[charby]

Originally Posted by PigOnTheWing

have to disagree there. i dont agree with the Iraq war at all but the iraqi government (at least now) is a freely elected government by the iraqi people and should be recognized as such in the world. in all fairness they did vote for their leaders that are running the country right now. you could have made that argument before december but i think we should recognize that the iraqi people did freely elect that government. IMO

I hope you`re right. I see a little Cuba happening all over again though.

I don`t support the war in Iraq but what`s done is done. Now it`s time to clean up the mess. Canada will be there soon enough. Not to continue the destruction and killing but to help the people recover from it. That I do support. Hopefully we will see change with the new gov`t and also follow what the Liberals did right. I think they did a good job at working hard to talk a deal with counrties we don`t get along with instead of just overthrowing the government. I think Harper`s more of trigger happy guy though. I guess we`ll wait and see.

[martydup]

Originally Posted by PigOnTheWing

i agree with you marty that was a stupid thing for dd3060 to say. but the above quote is absolutely appauling. to say 3000 innocent people getting slaughtered by terrorist is the fault of america, like i said earlier i am not a great ally of the US but i am embarrassed for the average people in canada that he said that.

I know what you mean and you are right.Those 3000 or so that died in 9/11 were the *innocent* people.The US is fighting terrorist and soldiers runned by dictatorship, they don't kill on purpose innocent citizens.

Let's not forget that Canada is now on bin Laden's hit list, no doubt.They will try to kill as many civilians as possible even if they have nothing to do over there.

[PigOnTheWing]

Originally Posted by martydup

I know what you mean and you are right.Those 3000 or so that died in 9/11 were the *innocent* people.The US is fighting terrorist and soldiers runned by dictatorship, they don't kill on purpose innocent citizens.

Let's not forget that Canada is now on bin Laden's hit list, no doubt.They will try to kill as many civilians as possible even if they have nothing to do over there.

agreed. bin laden hates the entire west and its culture. not just the US. tts a matter of time before canada is hit. and lets face it. when we are hit, the US and their soldiers will be here to help out.

[fumbrunner]

Originally Posted by PigOnTheWing

i agree with you marty that was a stupid thing for dd3060 to say. but the above quote is absolutely appauling. to say 3000 innocent people getting slaughtered by terrorist is the fault of america, like i said earlier i am not a great ally of the US but i am embarrassed for the average people in canada that he said that.

I am not condoning what happened. I am merely pointing out the fact that US policies in the middle east led to those events. Were those people innocent? yes. Should the terrorist rot in hell for what they did? absolutely. but the fact of the matter is that US policies in the middle east led to that attack.

But, like I said, that's another topic. This thread is about the Canadian election.

[PigOnTheWing]

Originally Posted by fumbrunner

I am not condoning what happened. I am merely pointing out the fact that US policies in the middle east led to those events. Were those people innocent? yes. Should the terrorist rot in hell for what they did? absolutely. but the fact of the matter is that US policies in the middle east led to that attack.

But, like I said, that's another topic. This thread is about the Canadian election.

no policy led to that attack. it was from blind hatred on bin laden's part. i think you should rot in hell for what you said. you are a hateful spiteful person. i dont agree with most US policies. and i would never say something that.

[fumbrunner]

Originally Posted by PigOnTheWing

no policy led to that attack. it was from blind hatred on bin laden's part. i think you should rot in hell for what you said. you are a hateful spiteful person. i dont agree with most US policies. and i would never say something that.

no, I dont consider myself hateful or spiteful. But I do understand the plight of the Palestinians, and if you would take the time to educate yourself on the subject, perhaps you would see it another way. Like I said, nothing excuses what happened on 9/11. But I definitely understand why it happened. Those are two different things.

[PigOnTheWing]

Originally Posted by fumbrunner

no, I dont consider myself hateful or spiteful. But I do understand the plight of the Palestinians, and if you would take the time to educate yourself on the subject, perhaps you would see it another way. Like I said, nothing excuses what happened on 9/11. But I definitely understand why it happened. Those are two different things.

no your justifying. and bin laden has nothing to do with the Palestinians so go stop making a poor excuse. your disgraceful. i suspect you were happy that 9/11 happened

[fumbrunner]

Originally Posted by PigOnTheWing

no your justifying. and bin laden has nothing to do with the Palestinians so go stop making a poor excuse. your disgraceful. i suspect you were happy that 9/11 happened

*sigh* bin laden has nothing to do with the Palestinians eh? I suggest you do some reading. Perhaps then you would be ready to debate the issue rather than making uneducated and insulting comments.