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The original bible (5 books of moses:Genesis, Exodus,etc.) was inscribed on a brass record by prophets. The bible as we have it today was translated through many diferent languages by man not inspired by God, and they have even left out a lot of stuff that was in the original bible. For the most part is pretty close for what we have bacuase they went to great lengths to hand scribe the whole bible. But the Original was infalliible. What we have now is a remnant of the infallible and has some error to the original. But since that is all we have for the Bible, we do our best. Thats why i love my religion so much, is because we have more than the Bible. A companion to the bible that is also a witness of the divinity of Jesus Christ, nothing more than that. And that we have a prophet of God with all the keys that moses and abraham had. a true blessing.
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Why do people beleive he is everywhere at the same time?
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Abraham and King benjamin had multiple wives too. Are you saying ancient prophets were adulterous too? you understand nothing of the matter BTW i wasnt refering to JS when i said prophet, JS was murdered, everyone knows that. I was reffering to Gordon B. Hinckley. And, we dont know how many wives JS had, a few we know of for sure. he did have multiple wives, i wont deny that Thats why the current polygamous colonies are there. They are break offs of mormonism that still have the belief of polygamy. Polygamy is directed by God. If you disagree, then abraham, was not a prophet either, and the whole God thing is a big joke. some beleive that, i most certainly do not.
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oh no but i bet chauncey thinks im brainwashed to believe in Adam & eve too so adam & eve probably arent even real hmm? lol God gave us free will. thats why eve messed up. free will is the answer to everything. we're born with it and we use it every second of our lives. free will kills people, free will cause sickness,disease and all that other stuff blusnayl is trying to pin on God. thats the dumbest thing i've heard seen someone try to do, pin mankind's mistakes on God....youre such a little piece of dirt compared to God....God doesnt even need us. he COULD wipe us out if he wanted to because we're so minor we dont even matter.
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adulterous
adj 1: characterized by adultery; "an adulterous relationship"; "extramarital affairs"; "the extracurricular activities of a philandering husband" [syn: extramarital, extracurricular] 2: not faithful to a spouse or lover; "adulterous husbands and wives"; "a two-timing boyfriend" [syn: cheating(a), two-timing(a)]
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Adam and eve's transgression in the garden was vital to mortal life. Yeah, they messed up, but it had to happen. actually i will have to say that god does need us and he wants us. We are literally children of god, and he is our father. We returning to him is his happiness at stake. losing one is very saddeining to him. "one soul is great in the eyes of God." Dannyboy--think about this. Ever since the known intelligence of homosapien(man) there has been beleif in God. there has been those who claim(actually were) prophets of god. why do people now find it a big story. Im sure that the first person that was smart enough to have written/spoken language just so happened to have a wild imagination to think up of a God and create all these commandments from his own head. That would have been an incredible leap from stupid to absolute knowledge of God. That in itself is witness that God is there. not one man could have been really stupid to all of the sudden having the concept of god and religion and written and spoken language. Cmon people wake up. Its right in your face.
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no no no, its all good. my take on it, with some added mormon doctorine. Joseph smith only had children by his first wife emma smith. He was allowed to have more wives, but he was not allowed to angage in them sexually or to have children. remaining faithful to his first wife in that respect. We believe that when you go to the temple for temple marraige that you can seal your wife to you binding her to you for eternity in heaven as your eternal wife. You are allowed to bind more than one wife, but a woman cannot be bound to more than one one man. example: you marry in the tiemple and your wife is sealed to you. later, say 10 years down the road, your wife dies. you are 35, and without a wife on earth. of course, you are permitted to marry again, and in the temple sealing your 2nd wife to you. follow me? so in heaven, we believe that polygamy will stand, but not as we see it as weird. only those that have had more than one wife sealed to them on earth will have more than one wife in heaven. vice versa, a woman can be sealed to her first husband. If she choses to marry again, she cannot seal to her second husband. Reason being, the husband must bring the wife into the kingdom of god. the wife cannot go alone. she must be accompanied by the husband. The wifes all belong to the husband, but had a wife 2 husbands, who does she belong too? It is very complicated and takes spirtual understanding. To me, it makes perfec sense. Many people, especially woman, have a hard time grasping the concept. As far as JS goes with his multiple wives, he was allowed to be sealed to them for his in the eternitys. But while on earth he was only to have reltions with his first wife. That of course is a mormon beleif. other christians do not beleive in it. the concept of the temple is only had in mormonism as far as christianity goes. The bible indicates the temple a few times. It even has account of temple ceremony in it that is absolutley dead smack with mormon temple worship. I wont really discuss the rituals of the temple because they are sacred, but you can find the ceremony on the internet, unfortunatley. There is a lot that cannot be undertood at first. the bible has many of the temple ceremony preceedings in it. The bible also says that the prophet elijah will appear in the last days and restore the keys of the temple. He did appear to joseph smith, and did restore the keys of the temple as known in the ancient days. What is not found in the bible, was given by revelation to a prophet of God.
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on another note. i agree with you bufflurp.
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JS remained faithful to his first wife. He did not have sexual relationship with his other wives. It was forbidden. he wasn't extra curricular, or two timing. His first wife, emma, accepted it also. She was not offended by it. another thing. Since mormon beleif is that the husband must bring the wife to the celstial glory/heaven, would it not be fair for a girl to not be able to go because there were not enough faithful men?
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any people that say god does evil stuff are retarded. no offense, and im not pointing fingers at anyone. just in general. For athiests, or non-christians, and no offense, i do feel soorow for you. i wish everyone could atleast beleive in jesusand follow his teachings. The world would be much happier. i do agree that other peoples beleifs have excellent teachings of fellowship and doing good. I beleive that everyone will eventually confess to christ being who he is. Our savior. of course that wont happen until he comes again. At that point, its a no-brainer.
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Most of the stuff in your post I could see where u were coming from. I just did,nt understand your """ I feel dumber for reading""' Comment.
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