Here's your REAL racism

[Arch Enemy]

Originally Posted by dd3060

resort name calling lol. that is what liberals do when they get blinded by facts.

Lorda'mercy me massa, I ain't never gots no senses nohow! I alwaysiz is gon' resorts to da' name'callin' and da' vi-lence! Sho' nuff, sho' nuff!

It was a joke, dude. Get over yourself. You're not so important, nor are your ideas so important, that me cracking out a joke is equivalent to me losing a debate with you over the Internet. You called me a domestic terrorist, so as far as I'm concerned, you deserve a burn. We can go back and forth with who started what, but in the end, you called liberals domestic terrorists first. You want to get treated with respect, treat others with respect.

And as far as facts go . . . you haven't presented a damn fact here yet. When you leave the realm of fairytales and mythic storytelling akin to that in the Bible, we'll talk about you talking facts.

again sorry, but big business does not vote. normal average americans vote. and 58 MILLON people voted for GW Bush and most people are not liberal if they were they would have voted for the liberal traitor that ran for the democrats last election

I voted moderate. All of the liberals I know voted moderate.

So much for liberals always voting for liberals.

Thing is, being liberal means using your brain - and in the case of elections, it means voting for the most qualified candidate, neither of which was found in W. or Kerry. There's nothing traitorous about liberals or liberalism. Traitorous liberalism does not exist outsideof conservative polemics. Liberals are possesing of the highest standards of patriotism, a patriotism that does not place rationality below one's country. Blind patriotism is no patriotism at all.

As for the elections . . . they were rigged.

[Arch Enemy]

Originally Posted by dd3060

well that may be true but that is cause the current president has the balls to go and fight for the country. something the last liberal didnt have the balls to do. when you go to war it costs money. and ya know what. i would rather the money get spent on national defense than some ridiculous social program that panders to the left.

Who said anything about the money being spent on the war effort? If so much money is being spent on the war effort, why are soldiers having to JERRY-RIG equipment? Bush is spending more money on faith-based social programs than on any war effort.

And what war should Clinton have been fighting? The one the current President is fighting based on lies and a lack of evidence? Sorry - liberalism does not endorse such thinking.

[dd3060]

they were rigged!!!! lol i love that one. you know what dude, your right. keep thinking that. keep thinking that big business elects presidents, keep thinking the elections were rigged. its nothing the liberals are doing wrong. you liberals keep doing what your doing please. it will only help us who want a strong national defense and less taxes.

[dd3060]

Originally Posted by Arch Enemy

Who said anything about the money being spent on the war effort? If so much money is being spent on the war effort, why are soldiers having to JERRY-RIG equipment? Bush is spending more money on faith-based social programs than on any war effort.

And what war should Clinton have been fighting? The one the current President is fighting based on lies and a lack of evidence? Sorry - liberalism does not endorse such thinking.

lets see how many terrorist attacks occured in the US and / or US property under the clintion adminstration. educate yourself and look it up. if need me to i'll tell you. the thing is he did NOTHING about it. NOTHING. maybe lobbed a few million dollar missles into an empty camp. NOTHING. no balls, a coward and sorry excuse for a president

[dd3060]

i'm done arguing with you. its just way too easy. i have facts you have "the elections were rigged". go brush up on your skills and get back to me in a few weeks. i'll even let you have the last word. i know how you liberals need to whine and cry and have the last word. so this is my last post. have at it. the final word is yours

[PigOnTheWing]

Originally Posted by dd3060

Let me ask you something luke. do u know that when the president makes a decision to go to war he has to get the consent of congress? probably you dont know that but he does. that means congress has to approve his decision to go to war in Iraq. Bush did just that. look up and see how many liberal democrats voted for the war. i can tell you that 29 democrat Senators voted to authorize the president to go to war. Congress voted 296-133 to authorize. there are 211 democrats in Congress so do the math that means AT LEAST 78 voted to go to war.
and did u ever hear this statement

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members"

who said that on the senate floor? do u know? look it up Oct 10, 2002. your next democrat nominee for president (SNICKER, SNICKER) Hilary Rotten Clinton.

how about this.
"leaving Saddam unfettered with nuclear weapons or weapons of mass destruction is unacceptable"
or this
"We know that Saddam Hussein has chemical and biological weapons and has large and growing stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, including mustard gas, VX nerve agent, and a range of other chemical weapons"
that was your last democrat nominee for president (SNICKER, SNICKER) John Kerry.

oh and one more.
"Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons"
That was your last democrat president (SNICKER, SNICKER) Bill Lewinski, i mean Bill Clinton. December 16, 1998. (google it if you dont believe me)

so before you start blaming republicans for the death of 2200 american soldiers get your facts straight. (oh wait, your a liberal, you dont like facts) the democrats helped out alot in sending those boys over there. And you know what. it was the right thing to do.

amazing stuff. i never knew the democrats in US said things like that. they all sound like Bush. yuck!

[Arch Enemy]

Originally Posted by dd3060

they were rigged!!!! lol i love that one. you know what dude, your right. keep thinking that. keep thinking that big business elects presidents, keep thinking the elections were rigged. its nothing the liberals are doing wrong. you liberals keep doing what your doing please. it will only help us who want a strong national defense and less taxes.

*arches eyebrow*

For one thing, I never said big business elects US Presidents.

Would you like to show me where I said that?

Because I will wait.

I'm very patient.

So you just let me know when you find where I said that corporations elect US Presidents. And I'll let you know when being obese has no repercussions whatsoever. And when leprechauns live on the moon. And unicorns are household pets.

Yes, the election was rigged. "President" Bush won the 2000 and 2004 elections and it is a coincidence that the "problems" with voting machines and voter lists were accidents even though the "mistakes" all helped Bush/Cheney.

The corporate media says we can trust voting machines but ignore the companies links to organized crime and extreme fundamentalists who think the Earth is about 6,000 years old.

If you want less taxes, get Bush out of office. If you want a better national defense, get Bush out of office. If our national defense is so great with him in it, why did 9/11 happen?

[Arch Enemy]

Originally Posted by dd3060

lets see how many terrorist attacks occured in the US and / or US property under the clintion adminstration. educate yourself and look it up. if need me to i'll tell you. the thing is he did NOTHING about it. NOTHING. maybe lobbed a few million dollar missles into an empty camp. NOTHING. no balls, a coward and sorry excuse for a president

Look . . . you huys have got to stop being mad that Clinton got some ass and enjoyed it, and you people believe in a family model where stoic males never enjoy sex because it's unbiblical. Okay? Just chill with this Clinton nonsense.

If Clinton did nothing, Bush did even less on 9/11. Rather than get off his ass, he sat there and read a children's book.

While our nation was under attack, our PResident was reading a children's book.

OMFG.

And you voted for this guy.

[Arch Enemy]

Originally Posted by dd3060

i'm done arguing with you. its just way too easy. i have facts you have "the elections were rigged". go brush up on your skills and get back to me in a few weeks. i'll even let you have the last word. i know how you liberals need to whine and cry and have the last word. so this is my last post. have at it. the final word is yours

*shrug* If you wanna run away when someone states the reality of things, that's your problem, not mine.

[Odin92681]

I just wanted to say I voted for bush and a week later saw Fahrenheit 911. I regretted voting for the guy. Dammit I'm surprised he hasn't been assinat..... What could we really expect from a "C" student anyway ? All I know is that Every president has a lot of sht to handle and Bush had too many wolfs in the hen-house, know what I mean. Clinton was a dope president, mainly because he was just like the rest of us...experimented a little bit with herbs , Liked getting dome every now and again. Bush is fuggin weak sauce. He was sleeping with the enemy for reals. He should be skinned alive and whipped.... It is his fault for 911 and he should have never taken office....ever... IT WAS RIGGED, THAT IS THE TRUTH. DOLE WAS PRES AND HAD TO HAND IT OVER CAUSE OF A "MISS-COUNT"...... SURE OKAY. WHEN IN THE HISTORY OF THE U.S. HAS A "MISS-COUNT" EVER HAPPENED ? Umm...where was I... Oh yeah the election, and the votes. They disregarded the Black votes WTF ! ! !

and that completes my rant. Bush suck ars through a straw.

oh and don't take offense to my opinion, I just live on a military base and don't agree with our master&chief of our country in his attacking methods for business opportunities in the Oil and Arms industries. NEVER believe it really costs the Gov. $2.50 for a gallon of gas. A huge chunk is going into Bushs' and Assoc's pockets

[TrainedMind]

The real racism in this country is the lack of an Asian president.

[dd3060]

Originally Posted by Odin92681

I just wanted to say I voted for bush and a week later saw Fahrenheit 911. I regretted voting for the guy. Dammit I'm surprised he hasn't been assinat..... What could we really expect from a "C" student anyway ? All I know is that Every president has a lot of sht to handle and Bush had too many wolfs in the hen-house, know what I mean. Clinton was a dope president, mainly because he was just like the rest of us...experimented a little bit with herbs , Liked getting dome every now and again. Bush is fuggin weak sauce. He was sleeping with the enemy for reals. He should be skinned alive and whipped.... It is his fault for 911 and he should have never taken office....ever... IT WAS RIGGED, THAT IS THE TRUTH. DOLE WAS PRES AND HAD TO HAND IT OVER CAUSE OF A "MISS-COUNT"...... SURE OKAY. WHEN IN THE HISTORY OF THE U.S. HAS A "MISS-COUNT" EVER HAPPENED ? Umm...where was I... Oh yeah the election, and the votes. They disregarded the Black votes WTF ! ! !

and that completes my rant. Bush suck ars through a straw.

oh and don't take offense to my opinion, I just live on a military base and don't agree with our master&chief of our country in his attacking methods for business opportunities in the Oil and Arms industries. NEVER believe it really costs the Gov. $2.50 for a gallon of gas. A huge chunk is going into Bushs' and Assoc's pockets

before you start believing michael moore do some research on him. you watch his movie and believe everyting he says?. this is michael moore. the same one who says we went to war so Halliburton can make money, yet he owns stock in defense contractors and Halliburton . dude dont go believing everything you see in the movies. even fictional ones like farenheit 911. no election was rigged. no votes were not counted. there is no evidence except that a fat liberal made a fictional movie and said so.

[dd3060]

Originally Posted by Arch Enemy

Look . . . you huys have got to stop being mad that Clinton got some ass and enjoyed it, and you people believe in a family model where stoic males never enjoy sex because it's unbiblical. Okay? Just chill with this Clinton nonsense.

If Clinton did nothing, Bush did even less on 9/11. Rather than get off his ass, he sat there and read a children's book.

While our nation was under attack, our PResident was reading a children's book.

OMFG.

And you voted for this guy.

do u need me to name all the terrorists attacks he did NOTHING about? i suspect you need me to. dude, i dont care about the monica thing. i could care less if he choose to get some from a fat slob named monica. hell if i was married to hillary anyting else would look good to me too. he was a sh*tty president cause he did nothing for national defense while in office. and do some research. in late 1990s bin laden was captured by Sudan and they asked clinton if we wanted him. clinton refused. and this was after WTC 1993, after the attack on the US embassy in Kenya , after the attack on the US embassy in Tanziana (and a few other but you find out the rest) so to blame bush for 911 after being in office for 8 months is ridiculous. i wont go so far as to blame clinton for 911. i blame no one but Al Queda but think about it. if clinton had the balls to take in him in custody he would have been in jail on 911. you need to educate yourself instead believing all the liberal non sense its just ridiculous how uninformed you. its like i'm arguing with a child.

[dd3060]

Originally Posted by Arch Enemy

you want less taxes, get Bush out of office. If you want a better national defense, get Bush out of office.

this statement just proves what a complete uninformed mindless liberal you are. bush cut taxes 3 times!!! you have the nerve to make that statement when bush cut taxes 3 times!!! and the liberals are fighting his effort to make them permanent. what a joke. you are so uneducated on this stuff it is freightening. how many attacks happened after 911 against the US? hmm ZERO!!! why? cause he had the balls to do something about it. if he didnt i am sure we would have been hit again. dude, you really are clueless. just stop cause your making a complete fool of yourself

[PigOnTheWing]

I have been reading this stuff its fascinating. I am no conservative or liberal (although i am more on the liberal side) I am real close to the center, and i am certainly no fan of bush. i did a little research on some of this stuff. those statements about iraq are true. i found them on reputable sites like CNN. the democrats wanted the war with iraq as badly as bush did. also there were numerous attacks in the western world while clinton was president (i counted 8). dd3060 said clinton did nothing. that isnt true. he did respond once in 1998 when they bombed an aspirin factory. but critics are quick to point out that he did it during the monica lewiniski scandal and maybe to get the attention away from that. the thing i find most fascinating is that sudan did in fact capture and offer bin laden to the US and he refused to take him. i heard an audio tape of clinton making a speech saying so himself. i'm shocked. bush did cut taxes 3 times although he is running a defiect and clinton didnt. this is facisnating stuff and believe me i am not ashamed to admit i have learned some things. dd3060 has pointed out things i didnt think were accurate but it turns out they were. Arch Enemy i need some facts on the other side. i dont want to be swayed to the conserative side lol. give me some. in honesty i have been trying to find evidence of the 2000 and 2004 elections being rigged but havent really found it. (although i would like to). if you can give me somewhere to look to see for myself i would appreciate it. you guys keep up with this i'm learning some things i didnt know and i love it.

[dd3060]

Pig here is something you forgot to point out. he said that most americans are liberal to which i showed him this fact

Originally Posted by dd3060

sorry most americans are not liberal. if that were so we wouldnt have a republican president, republican congress, republican senate and a majority of the governors wouldnt be republican. if the country is so liberal why do liberals lose so many elections and why do conserative republican run the country? ... uh that's what i thought

that is a fact. the whole country is run by republicans. if most people were liberal why are republicans winning most major elections? to that he says that it cause big business runs the country. lol. even that were true (which its not) that has nothing to do with the fact average ordinary people are voting these guys into office. not big business. that is all the liberals have. conspiracy theories even though us conseratives have facts to back up what we say they still refuse to believe it. that is why the american people are finally rejecting liberalism. In reality most americans are not liberal. but the extreme left wing cant fathom that.

[PigOnTheWing]

yeah i can tell you know your stuff. you've been schooling me. lol.

[CollegeGuy]

First of all, hats off to dd3060. Great stuff, I saved most of the posts on my comp.

Anyways, I just wanted to say I think its sad how the two parties have to spend all their time battling eachother instead of actually working together for the benefit of the country. It seems as though all of the radical democrats have taken over the party and none of the moderate ones have a voice anymore. They don't really care about the country as far as I'm concered. All they want is to make bush and republicans look bad. Thats what they spend all their time doing. The democratic party has no plans for the country, and when Bush's term is done they will still not have any plans because they will have spent the last 8 years trying to make Bush look 'evil'.

And even "IF" the election was rigged (and it wasnt), it is the BEST THING to happen to the US in a long time. Can you really imagin if Al fricken Gore was our president on 9/11?????

Oh and odin two things:
michael moore is a piece o' sh!t, I'm embarrased he is from MI.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think "DOLE" was ever president lol

[PigOnTheWing]

Originally Posted by CollegeGuy

First of all, hats off to dd3060. Great stuff, I saved most of the posts on my comp.

i agree dd3060 is impressive. i saved that stuff too. no offense arch enemy but as an ubiased onlooker he really took it to you..

[dd3060]

thanks guys. i just state facts. i dont blindly follow either side. I need to be convinced. from what i see college guy is 100% right. all the liberals want is to make bush look bad. whatever bush wants the dems want the opposite. please just do the country a favor and nominate hillary. she stands no chance of winning a national election. what southern state is going to vote for her? NONE. no matter who the republican candidate is. please NOMINATE HILLARY. PLEASE!!! and oh College Guy is so right about something else too. can you imagine if Gore was in office when 911 happened? he would have blamed it on Global Warming (which by the way, there is no such thing but that is another topic) and asked all us americans to get in touch with our inner feelings.