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Old 07-28-2005, 03:10 PM
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Old 07-28-2005, 03:43 PM
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i bet Jesus lived but i dont think we should place him higher than any other healer or teacher or prophet. Its not a maricle to heal someone. All it is ,is energy being transfered to his body to the person. People that are present thus they are enlighted are healers because the ego doesnt block the flow of energy.
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i allways got the impression of god kinda being the combination of all existance. i meen i find it hard to believe anything because all the beliefs i used to have were mearly verified on other beliefs. i got to the point where if i were to choose if something was true or not i would simply see if it cohered with my other beliefs but then i realized that all my beliefs could be wrong and infact false. so basicaly at the moment i dont know anything, all my memories could be false, i could have been created an instant ago and everything i experience could be prejected onto me by a computer and my memories implanted etc but the possibilties of the "real" reality are endless so i do not even know that i dont know anything because what i think i know could be the real reality but then again it is just one of an infinite number of possibilities. but if anything were to exist the first thing to exist would probably be god and then me and then everything else would mearly exist within god asif characteristics of god
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i bet Jesus lived but i dont think we should place him higher than any other healer or teacher or prophet. Its not a maricle to heal someone. All it is ,is energy being transfered to his body to the person. People that are present thus they are enlighted are healers because the ego doesnt block the flow of energy.
The healing is not what impresses me. It's Jesus' message. He stated excellent things that if people REALLY listened to could solve the major problems that we have in this world today and this was like 2000 years ago.
That's why regardless if you believe he is the Son Of God or not, I think he should be looked up to cause his ideas and solutions could make the world a better place.
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Old 07-28-2005, 10:00 PM
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yea i agree chauncy he was a special guy.
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I think you have watched the Matrix one too many times!!! LOL!!!
Or one too many hits on the football field.
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Old 07-29-2005, 05:20 AM
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My guardians gave me a new way and i found out about alot of the things. Many of those in this thread. Im not here to bash what you have belived in your intire (i know i suck at spelling) life. But im just trying to say that there might be another way.
Please enlighten us. Explain the new way.
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Old 07-29-2005, 01:26 PM
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EJ its funny how you make fun of people that show something thats different or weird. Your way isnt always the best way bud.

i mean its not a new way but jesus was like this. He had "presence" this is what made him heal people. God is present so if you want to feel him then you have to become present. Present means that you are i the moment and your ego has eased up and you are your true self. PSyics need to be present to get their impressions because if they had ego it woudn't work. When you are truly present theres nothing to think about. You are there with what is with you. Remmber when jesus was in the desert and the "devil can to him" and tempted him. Well that "devil" wasnt a devil with horns and a red face but it was his own ego that reached out but Jesus new what it ws up too and eased it before Jesus belived it in. There are four steps to become present. But im not here to teach it lol. This is some cool stuff though. But your ego is gunna say wtf i want to be the main show and it will try and resist this. This is why i say god wont judge. If he judges he will be immortal and nothing more than a human. Not a human being but just a human.
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Old 07-29-2005, 02:56 PM
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EJ its funny how you make fun of people that show something thats different or weird. Your way isnt always the best way bud.
I wasn't making fun. Just trying to make sense out of your ramblings. I hope you are not as confused as your post would let on
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EJ its funny how you make fun of people that show something thats different or weird. Your way isnt always the best way bud.

i mean its not a new way but jesus was like this. He had "presence" this is what made him heal people. God is present so if you want to feel him then you have to become present. Present means that you are i the moment and your ego has eased up and you are your true self. PSyics need to be present to get their impressions because if they had ego it woudn't work. When you are truly present theres nothing to think about. You are there with what is with you. Remmber when jesus was in the desert and the "devil can to him" and tempted him. Well that "devil" wasnt a devil with horns and a red face but it was his own ego that reached out but Jesus new what it ws up too and eased it before Jesus belived it in. There are four steps to become present. But im not here to teach it lol. This is some cool stuff though. But your ego is gunna say wtf i want to be the main show and it will try and resist this. This is why i say god wont judge. If he judges he will be immortal and nothing more than a human. Not a human being but just a human.
im interested what are these four steps? btw im not dissing you i think your view is cool and i you seem to be thinking independantly
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Old 07-29-2005, 06:03 PM
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I wasn't making fun. Just trying to make sense out of your ramblings. I hope you are not as confused as your post would let on
well its hard to write all that crap on the spot and make it sound alright. Dude im not at all confused. I just had all this crap in my head and i posted what ever came.
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Okay...my grandma just sent this to me and I thought it was so funny! And of course...it fits our topic! I hope you all can just laugh, it is supposed to be funny!

Far away in the tropical waters of the Caribbean, two prawns were
swimming around in the sea - one called Justin and the other called
Christian.

They were constantly being harassed and threatened by sharks that
inhabited the area and finally one day Justin said, "I'm fed up with
being a prawn, I wish I was a shark, then I wouldn't have any worries
about being eaten."

Just then a large mysterious cod appeared and said, "Your wish is
granted",and lo and behold, Justin turned into a shark.

Horrified, Christian immediately swam away, afraid of being eaten by his
old mate. Time passed (as it invariably does) and Justin found life as a
shark boring and lonely. All his old mates simply swam away whenever he
came close to them. Justin didn't realise that his new menacing
appearance was the cause of his sad plight. While swimming alone one day
he saw the mysterious cod again and he thought perhaps the mysterious
fish could change him back to his old self.

He approached the cod and begged to be changed back, and, lo and behold,
he found himself turned back into a prawn. With tears of joy in his tiny
little eyes Justin swam back to his friends and bought them all a
cocktail. (The punch line does not involve a prawn cocktail - it's much
worse). Looking around the gathering at the reef he realised he couldn't
see his old best pal. "Where's Christian?" he asked. "He's at home,
still distraught that his best friend changed sides to the enemy and
became a shark", came the reply.

Eager to put things right again and end the mutual pain and torture, he
set off to his old friend's house. As he opened the little coral gate
memories came flooding back. He banged on the door and shouted, "It's
me, Justin, your old friend, come out and see me again."

"No way man" came a reply, "you 'll eat me. You're now a shark, the
enemy, and I'll not be tricked into being your dinner."
Justin cried back "No, I'm not. That was the old me. I've
changed..............................
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I've found Cod. I'm a prawn again Christian.
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Old 07-29-2005, 06:52 PM
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If he judges he will be immortal and nothing more than a human. Not a human being but just a human.

He is already immortal. Are you saying that if I judge someone I will become immortal? Sounds good to me.

And what is the difference between a human being and a human?

If you can't write out how you feel about this, and you have all these thoughts swirling in your head and you don't know how to piece them together to form a complete thought.........that is confusion. You have no base. No foundation. Just a bunch of "thoughts" that you can't even piece together.

Confusion.
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Old 07-29-2005, 07:03 PM
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**** i meant mortal. My bad. The thing is though the mind cant really comprehind what i was talking about. Its higher than words. So yea its tough writing this **** out your right though it is confusion on paper. But it sounds alright to me anyway. I think im done talking about this though

Btw funny story sweet pea.

A human is somone who is trapt in there own illusion like almost 6 billion of us are. HUmans react to try to fit in with the crowd because they are afraid to be made fun of. These are the people who need to make fun of people too feel better. These guys have jelousy and judge everything.

A human being is somone who found their true higher self. Read some books on this and you will know what im talking about.
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I really dont know anymore...
With so many differant ideas going around its hard to be convinced of either side, atleast for me.

No Religion:
-Evolution
-The fact that the Romans, Greeks, Vikings, Egyptians, Muslims, Buddhists, Christians, etc all have/had their own Gods, its hard to say that yours is any differant (the true one), and not made up like those were; unless you believe they exist aswell... thats your belief.
-You could say that if religion was all made up, then it was to keep people in order. Laws may stop people from commiting crimes to an extent, but threating them with eternal damnation will have a much more powerful effect. Also, the idea that there is a greater power than us and that we all have a purpose may give some people the hope to carry on when they otherwise wouldnt. (In other words, people created the idea of a God to keep the world in order).

Religion:
-The unexplainable things that COULD be coincidence, but just seems too much like a miracle.
^From a psychological standpoint, this could easily be explained as just something in your brain, not nessisarily reality. ie- You pray to overcome sadness from a death, and then you overcome it. How do you know if God helped you overcome it, or your faith tricked your brain into overcoming it because you believed God was helping you.

*If you look at people and their religion, its almost always some form of what they were raised (born Catholic, stayed Catholic). So is that what they really believe, or what they were brainwashed into believeing their whole lines.
what if what you think wasnt true and after your death you discovered that there is god? i think you must search in each religion and find what is ore logical and you feel its right
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what if what you think wasnt true and after your death you discovered that there is god? i think you must search in each religion and find what is ore logical and you feel its right


stop digging up old threads. this thread is way old. if you want to talk about something start a new one.
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Old threads are ok to look at Mo3taz, just don't post in them...they have died...let them rest in peace....


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1. Do you have any kind of spiritual belief?
Yes, absolutley!!!
Me too..The spirituality in the belief in one's self
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2.To you, who is Jesus?
To me, Jesus is the son of God. If you don't believe that he is the Son of God then you have to admit that Jesus was the best character ever made. To me, his story and really the point he was trying to get across was quite original. The meek shall inherit the earth,turn the other cheek, and how important love is. It is pretty awesome.
To me Jesus is Jesus. I have no ill feelings towards Jesus. Did he ever exist? Maybe. Who knows. I certainly don't
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3. Do you think there is a heaven or hell?
Both, but i don't believe that people go to hell for eternity. I beleive that is too harsh of a punishment for what we do here on earth. Eternity is just too long of a time to be in hell for. Personally i think hell may more be like a jail sentence. Once you die, you find out what the truth is and at that point you will have to be punished for your wrong-doings.
I believe there is no Heaven nor Hell. It's a made up place to let children behave and think about their errors: Perhaps a way to decipline.
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4. If you fell over and died, where would you go? If heaven, why would God let you in?I believe that we all go into the ground and we stay there until the end of the world. Then God will judge everybody and we will know then, but No, I don't think we go right to heaven or hell right away.
That's it for you.
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5. If what you were believing was not true, would you want to know?
Most definitley
Well, let's see. If I am dead: That means I have not consciousness, so NO.
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