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Old 04-16-2008, 12:30 AM
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Well, I made my return from injury approximately a month ago and what can I say? I've lost alot of strength and I still can't do leg or lower back work. I started at 62kg when I resumed training but after picking up my diet and buying a weight gainer I'm back upto 70kg. Anyways, here is what I did with myself today:

BB Bench Pulls
14 x 55kg (I didn't realise I'd be able to do so many otherwise I would've gone heavier)
8 x 60kg
7 x 60kg
6 x 60kg

T-Bar Rows
7 x 27.5kg
6 x 28.75kg

Lat Pulldown (Down from 90+ kg pre-injury, around 80kg when it's my first exercise at the moment)
7 x 68kg
6 x 73kg

EZ Bar Preacher Curls
6 x 33kg
4 x 35.5kg

DB Curls
8 x 15kg
8 x 15kg

BB Curls
5x30kg

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Old 04-17-2008, 10:18 PM
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Today was chest/tri's:

BB Bench Press
Max-OT Warm Up
8 x 75kg
6 x 77.5kg
4 x 80kg failed on the last

DB Incline Press
32.5kg's x 7
35kg's x 4 failed on the last
32.5kg's x 5

DB Bench Flies
20kg's x 5
20kg's x 5

Weight Dips
BW + 15kg x 6
BW + 15kg x 7

BB Narrow Bench
50kg x 8
52.5kg x 6

I'm embarrassed to post this workout because it's so far behind where I was five months ago. Ah well, I'll keep trucking away and I'll be back on form in no time.
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Old 04-17-2008, 10:40 PM
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Oh yeh! Here's what I've eaten today so far:

Meal 1
210 grams of baked beans
weight gainer shake (2 scoops - 30 grams protein, 30 grams carbs)

Pre-Workout
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Meal 2
200 grams of tuna
4 pieces of toast
weight gainer shake

Meal 3
steak burger
200 grams of tuna

Update:

Meal 4
weight gainer shake (3 scoops - 45g protein, 45g carbs)

Meal 5
250g of baked beans
350g of tuna

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Old 04-17-2008, 11:52 PM
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a) I'm sick at the moment...

b) You have no idea how big that steak burger was...

c) That's only what I'd eaten upto midday today...
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Way to get back on the horse bud! Your muscle memory will get you back up to par in no time!
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Old 04-22-2008, 01:47 AM
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Workout:

DB Seated Shoulder Press
25kg x 10
27.5kg x 5
25.6kg x 6
25kg x 7

BB Upright Rows
45kg x 7
45kg x 8

DB Lateral Raises
9kg x 6
9kg x 5

Seated Calf Raises
45kg x 6
45kg x 6
40kg x 6

Today's session was pretty average. I was pushing back up to the 27.5kg dumbbells on my seated shoulder press but I had my spotter giving me the lightest touch to get past the sticky point on each rep. It's annoying how you have to jump 5kg at a time on dumbbell exercises but meh. The reason why I slotted in calf's at the end was because I can't really do any leg work besides that with my abck at the moment. Oh and an update on my back: it's all nervy and painful wooooo!

What I've eaten so far today:

Meal 1
420 grams of baked beans

Meal 2 (I was at work so it was pretty abysmal attempt at a meal)
pikelets

Meal 3
400 grams of tuna mixed with mayo and onion

Meal 4
210 grams of baked beans

Meal 5
210 grams of baked beans
weight gainer shake (30 grams of protein, 30 grams of carbs)

....I haven't had dinner or my bedtime shake yet but that gives you a fairly good idea of what I've been eating.

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Old 04-22-2008, 10:10 PM
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Lat Pulldown
8 x 73kg
7 x 77kg
5 x 80kg

BB Bench Pulls
11 x 55kg
9 x 57.5kg
5 x 60kg
7 x 60kg

T-Bar Rows
9 x 27.5kg
6 x 30kg
5 x 32.5kg

EZ Bar Preacher Curls
6 x 33kg
6 x 33kg

This is what I've eaten so far today...

Meal 1
420g baked beans

Meal 2
200g tuna with mayo and onion

Meal 3
420g baked beans
200g tuna with mayo and onion

Update:

Meal 4
Rump Steak and Salad
Steak Burger (I was still famished after dinner because I didn't eat properly today)

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Old 05-02-2008, 01:20 AM
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Last Saturday:

BB Bench Press
Warm-Up Sets (two light, two loading)
75kg x 8
77.5kg x 6
77.5kg x 5
77.5kg x 4

DB Incline Bench
32.5kg x 5
32.5kg x 5
32.5kg x 6

BB Narrow Bench
55kg x 9
57.5kg x 7
60kg x 5

I failed on the last rep of every set, as per usual. There's nothing to say other than it was a pretty crap session. Ah well.
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Old 05-02-2008, 01:23 AM
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Last Tuesday:

V-Grip Lat Pulldown
6 x 82kg
7 x 86kg
5 x 88.5kg
4 x 88.5kg

BB Bench Pull
5 x 60kg
5 x 60kg
8 x 57.5kg
7 x 57.5kg

T-Bar Row
6 x 30kg
5 x 30kg

DB Hammer Curls
5 x 17.5kg

DB Curls
6 x 15kg
5 x 15kg

Edit: I'm hoping tomorrow's chest session will be alot better than the last one...
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BB Bench Press
7 x 77.5kg
4 x 80kg
5 x 80kg

BB Decline Bench
7 x 70kg
8 x 70kg
5 x 72.5kg

Narrow Bench
6 x 60kg
7 x 60kg
5 x 62.5kg

Weighted Dips

4 x BW + 15kg
5 x BW + 15kg
5 x BW + 15kg
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Old 05-06-2008, 05:13 AM
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BB Bench Pulls
60kg x 9
65kg x 7
67.5kg x 5

T-Bar Rows (NoteL: I use the machine, not the barbell)
30kg x 8
31.25kg x 7
32.5kg x 6

Lat Pulldown
72kg x 6
75.5kg x 7

Preacher Curls
33kg x 8
35.5kg x 5
35.5kg x 4
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:56 AM
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DB Shoulder Press
25kg x 9 (1 fail)
27.5kg x 6 (1 fail)
27.5kg x 4 (1 fail)

BB Upright Row
45kg x 8
50kg x 6 (1 fail)
50kg x 5 (1)

DB Lateral Raises
10kg x 6
10kg x 6
10kg x 5
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Your routine looks really low volume. Especially yesterday which was only 9 sets!
I'd be done in 20 mins with only 9 sets. I know I am on the higher volume side of things as I tend to do things the extreme, but to give you a feel of what I do, I have been averaging 26-29 sets each session (m,t,th,fr)

Also, please explain more about your injury. It obviously depends on your injury and it's severity, but it might not mean you have to refrain from leg and lower back ALL TOGETHER...
Perhaps you can do light(er) weights?

In addition, because you cant train legs or lower back, I think you should bump up your other training as you have the extra time to do so now. You can use that time for recovery, but I myself would up the volume and the frequency. Perhaps go to 2 times per week with the remaining body parts?

Finally, the diet needs major work mate
If you are trying to add mass (bulk up), then you need more protein, more cals and more meals....
If my diet was in check, WOW, I'd be much much farther along than I am. If I could only pass one one bit of advice, it would be to practice a proper diet, thats the secret to success in this game!

To wrap this up, I'll give you an example about diet.
There was a recent study, now I know there are many variables involved, but none the less, the results are very interesting. They took 20 powerlifters all the same height, 20 bodybuilders and 20 Sumo wrestlers and tested them all for lean muscle mass. Who do you think had the most lean muscle mass on their bodies? It was the Sumo wrestlers, the ones who do zero weight training and just consume massive amounts of food. Sure they train for Sumo, but they do no resistance training at all, never pick up a barbell or dumbell or never hoist up 300 lbs over their heads or deadlift 700+ from the floor...How is that possible?

The Powerlifters came in 2nd place followed in a close 3rd by the bodybuilders.

So what does that say? It says that the guys who eat more, gain more muscle and that training is second to diet...At least thats what it means to me

Sorry to go on and on

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Your routine looks really low volume. Especially yesterday which was only 9 sets!
I'd be done in 20 mins with only 9 sets. I know I am on the higher volume side of things as I tend to do things the extreme, but to give you a feel of what I do, I have been averaging 26-29 sets each session (m,t,th,fr)
Yeh, yesterday was pretty short because I was really tired and my shouder days are usually pretty short because I want to back up in four/five days time and murder my chest session. Should I throw in one or two extra exercises or just up the sets? Maybe throw traps in (they're getting no attention atm)?

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Also, please explain more about your injury. It obviously depends on your injury and it's severity, but it might not mean you have to refrain from leg and lower back ALL TOGETHER...
Perhaps you can do light(er) weights?

In addition, because you cant train legs or lower back, I think you should bump up your other training as you have the extra time to do so now. You can use that time for recovery, but I myself would up the volume and the frequency. Perhaps go to 2 times per week with the remaining body parts?
The injury was a disc buldge; it's considered a pretty major injury. Just to give you an idea of how ****ed my back is I can even kick a rugby ball without it hurting. Leg weights and anything that involves my lower back is pretty much out of the question. It kind of sucks because I enjoy my bent-over rows and squats etc.

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Finally, the diet needs major work mate
If you are trying to add mass (bulk up), then you need more protein, more cals and more meals....
If my diet was in check, WOW, I'd be much much farther along than I am. If I could only pass one one bit of advice, it would be to practice a proper diet, thats the secret to success in this game!

To wrap this up, I'll give you an example about diet.
There was a recent study, now I know there are many variables involved, but none the less, the results are very interesting. They took 20 powerlifters all the same height, 20 bodybuilders and 20 Sumo wrestlers and tested them all for lean muscle mass. Who do you think had the most lean muscle mass on their bodies? It was the Sumo wrestlers, the ones who do zero weight training and just consume massive amounts of food. Sure they train for Sumo, but they do no resistance training at all, never pick up a barbell or dumbell or never hoist up 300 lbs over their heads or deadlift 700+ from the floor...How is that possible?

The Powerlifters came in 2nd place followed in a close 3rd by the bodybuilders.

So what does that say? It says that the guys who eat more, gain more muscle and that training is second to diet...At least thats what it means to me

Sorry to go on and on
Well, I haven't really recorded any of my good days on here but I'll start posting my diet on a more regular basis to give you a better idea of what I eat. I probably still need to clean it up though so I might throw in a bit more protien like you suggested to up the anti...
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Should I throw in one or two extra exercises or just up the sets? Maybe throw traps in (they're getting no attention atm)?...
Lay out your schedule, because I think a shoulder day alone is a waste of a workout. I'll make some routine suggestions if your post your exact routine.



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The injury was a disc buldge; it's considered a pretty major injury. Just to give you an idea of how ****ed my back is I can even kick a rugby ball without it hurting. Leg weights and anything that involves my lower back is pretty much out of the question. It kind of sucks because I enjoy my bent-over rows and squats etc....
Ahh yes, not a good injury to have. But there are 2 guys that have back injuries and have overcome or are overcoming the inury as we speak and they continue to get bigger and leaner.
Talk to Musclesntx (Boyd) over at MW or Mitchcumstein.
Boyd broke his back a few years back and Mitch deals with a degenerative disk. I know the inujuries arent the same, but they might be able to help
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Old 05-09-2008, 03:59 AM
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I haven't really written down my current routine but I have a pretty good idea of what I'm doing and what my goals are for each session. I will, however, write down my routine when I'm not so tired...

P.S. My diet for today:

Meal 1
3 egg omlette (plain)
1 banana

Meal 2
400 grams of fresh water tuna
two scoops of weight gainer shake
1 piece of toast

Meal 3
400 grams of fresh water tuna
two scoops of weight gainer shake

Meal 4
850 gram steak
two small potatos
half a cup of veges



Meal 5
protein shake

I ate pretty poorly today due to the fact that I was at a lan centre for a few hours and replaced a few meals with some chips. I usually would've had one or two cans of baked beans in there and a few more veges. However, even on a good day I haven't been eating enough veges so I've asked my dad to bring home some green beans and broccoli (my favourites) to go with my daytime meals.

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Old 05-10-2008, 10:52 PM
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V-Grip Lat Pulldown
88.5kg x 8
90kg x 7
92.5kg x 6

Lat Pulldown
82kg x 4
79.5kg x 4
77kg x 6

Bench Pull
60kg x 5
60kg x 6
60kg x 4

DB Curls
15kg x 8
15kg x 7
15kg x 6
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Old 05-13-2008, 12:03 AM
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I've got a couple of things to say before I post my workout and diet for the day: in late November last year before I injured my back, I did my best set of bench press at 4 reps of 97.5kg. Even back then I was frustrated with the lack of development in my chest comparted to my shoulders. My bench form has always been fairly good. My timing, depth and grip have all been complimented by the various spotters I've had at my gym over the past year. The only real problem I've had with my form has been that the bar follows a trajectory that ends about two and a half inches above my nipples.

Anyhow, today I decided to fix the trajectory of the bar so it hit my chest just above my nipples. Not only did my bench drop 7.5kg but my pec were absolutly destroyed by the end of my fourth set. I'm sure this is pittens for those of you who are bench 140kg but when you're repping on 82.5kg, 7.5kg seems to make a huge difference. I guess my goal of making it back upto 97.5kg and past the 100kg (a semi-respecatable bench) barrier by the end of July just went out the window along with my ego. I know taking the pressure off my delts and putting it onto my chest will be good for my chest development in the long run but at the moment my numbers are down (again) and it really sucks.

On the bright side, I smashed my incline bench because I had barely used my anterior delts during my bench today. My decline was suffered a bit of though. Anyhow, I've decided to do alot more decline/flat bench for the next couple of months so I can get my chest up to speed with my shoulder (which are bigger than my chest, but still small). Happy benching I suppose...

...rant over.

P.S. BiggerGuns=LongerDrives, I added more sets to my session today. I would've done more tricep work but my parking ticket had run out and I didn't want to get booked. Here is my chest/tri's session for today:

BB Bench Press
82.5kg x 5 (1 failure) (old form)
77.5kg x 5 (1) (new form)
75kg x 6 (1) (new form)
75kg x 5 (1) (new form)

DB Incline Bench
32.5kg x 8 (1 failure)
35kg x 5 (1)
35kg x 4 (1)

BB Decline Press
67.5kg x 6 (1 failure)
67.5kg x 5 (1)
67.5kg x 5 (1)

BB Narrow Bench
60kg x 5 (1 failure)
60kg x 6 (1)
60kg x 5 (1)
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