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Old 03-24-2008, 08:22 PM
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Hey all. Most of you know that I've gone through quite a bout with my fat loss. I'm roughly 75lbs down and I'm fighting tooth and nail to burn off the last bit of stubbourn fat around my hips and ass (how affeminate!). My body is resisting everything I throw at it now so I decided to give something completely new a try.

Upon the wise and experienced suggestion of BG=LD, I've picked up carb cycling. MusclesnTX mentored BGLD and he had great results. Hopefully, I can continue the cycle of success.

A note... I am in gym transition right now and do not have access to deadlifting or squatting equipment. Its aweful but I'll make due for a month. If you notice anomolies in my routine, that is most likely the culprit.

I'm going to run this log for two months ending on May 24th. I'll be using Google Docs to create a viewable excel sheet of my diet and workouts. I'll post whenever I make updates to the link.

Wish me luck as I wage war on those last few stubbourn pounds.

LOG LINK: Google Docs - Workout Log

Another note: There are two sheets, one for workout and one for diet.

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Old 03-24-2008, 08:25 PM
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The sheet is fully updated for March 24th.

This new style of dieting is completely different from my old ways. I use to dodge carbs like a pro, but now I'm having to proactively try to include carbs with each little meal. I ended up consuming almost twice the amount of carbs that I use to under my old diet.

It is a definite change and my diet is a little sloppy right now because of it, but I'll figure things out.

Tomorrow is a light carb day with a back/legs/bis workout.
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Good luck Gill.

I checked out your diet and it sort of sucks.
One very important part of this style of carb cycling of Boyd's, is that you consume all your carbs at only 3 sittings: Breakfast, Pre & Post Workout...thats it!

So you have to make some changes my friend.
This diet will seem more difficult in the forefront, but once you get it going, it is not complicated at all. Some people will try to over think it or complicate the hell out of it, but it's just some basic principals to follow and the above mentioned is a major one to follow.

OK I also see there is not enough protein and it is certainly not spaced out well either.
Think of every meal as being centered around having a foundation of protein in it.
I also see too much protein from a single source, such as cottage cheese.
In order to try to get a full spectrum of natural amino intake from your foods, you need to mix up the protein content more = Beef, Chicken, Turkey, Fish, other lean Meats, Eggs, Milk, etc..etc

Also other than a single serving of carrots, there are no veggies!!!!!
You need those fibrous carbs man, at every sitting and veggies dont count as carbs so they are unlimited!

Oh and ditch the Baked Lays

Also, Great job on starting the log as others can see what carb cycling is about and you can get feedback along the way..a win win in my eyes !!

(Your diet)

11AM: Turkey Sandwich, Cottage Cheese, Unsalted Peanuts, 1 liter water
2:00PM: 2 servings Powerade, Baked Lays Chips, 1 liter water
4:30PM: Cottage Cheese w/ mixed berry granola, wheat bread, 1 liter water
5:30PM: WORKOUT. .5 liter of water.
6:40PM: Turkey Frank, handful of peanuts, wheat crackers, .5 liters water.
8:00PM: Chicken Breast, cottage cheese, wheat bread, carrots. 1 liter water. Diet Pepsi Max.
10:30PM: Probolic Shake.
1AM: Bed Time. 1 liter of water.

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Yea, its definitely a lot different than just watching my calorie intake. This is mainly the reason I started a week before May was to get the kinks out and try to get my diet figured out. I didn't realize the carbs were suppose to be exclusively eaten at only those intervals. I thought it was just a baseline. That makes things easier for me actually since I hate having to include carbs along and along.

Appreciate the comments and keep them coming. I'll definitely need the help this week.

Since I already botched the carb routine for the day, I'm going to salvage the best I can then start fresh after my zero carb day on Wednesday.

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I agree - that isn't really the most optimal way to carb cycle. I mean, sure, it is technically carb cycling............as there are a thousand variations. Easy way to remember:

- normal carb day - carbs breakfast & surrounding your training.
- no carb day - no f*cking carbs.....up your protein/healthy fat intake.
- refeed - unlimited carbs (clean carbs). cut back on the fiber and fats.
- fiber doesn't count as carbs.
- avoid eating fats/carbs in the same meal as best as you can.
- refeed on leg or back day and only once per week or maybe once every 10 days.
- don't train on no carb day.
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Thanks so much, JLo. Great info.

Is the "Avoid eating fats/carbs together" a universal rule? Or is this something specific to just carb cycling? In other words, should I eat my fats inbetween my breakfast, pre and post workout carb meals instead of eating them together?
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Awesome, im really glad to see that you are going to be be keeping a log of this!

I've been wantign to ramp my diet up to try and dump a few more fat lbs, but like you i droped 60lbs and my body just kind of said "nope, no more!"
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Glad to see you, Mike!

Just finished my dinner for the night. Tried to salvage the day after reading BGLD and JLos advice. I'm not going to lie, I had a "fat day." I felt fat all day long. I think it has to do with just thinking about carbs so much. Mindset disposition or something, lol. Its pathetic.

I'm learning a lot and plan to have things smoothed out by Monday for a fresh start. I steamed a giant pot of vegetables tonight and should get 5-6 servings out of it. I'm trying to eat more to get enough protein. This will be alot easier when I'm home for the summer and on my parent's tab, lol. Buying all this meat is sapping my accounts.

Pretty good workout today. The squats toasted my legs today. Not sure why I struggled on that front, but itll work itself out. The seated cable rows felt pointless. I maxed out the weight on the machine and only felt a slight burn. I really need a better back routine.

Anyways, living and learning about carb cycling.
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The seated cable rows felt pointless. I maxed out the weight on the machine and only felt a slight burn. I really need a better back routine.
What kind of weight are you pulling to max out a machine already?
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Keeping in mind the gym I'm forced to use over the next month is absolutely worthless. Its 155lbs at the bottom of the stack. Its a pulley row machine so obviously don't take that number at face value.
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Keeping in mind the gym I'm forced to use over the next month is absolutely worthless. Its 155lbs at the bottom of the stack. Its a pulley row machine so obviously don't take that number at face value.
It looks like you have access to a BB and some plates, why no Bent Over rows?
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It's a bloody smith machine. To clarify the notes on the log, any BB exercise (including squats) is unfortunately being done on a smith machine this month. The weight that I'm posting is only plate weight. I can say that right now I'm doing the same on free bench so the numbers shouldn't skew too terribly.

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It's a bloody smith machine.
I see people doing these on the smith all the time... Of course a regular bar and rack would be better...

but ya gotta work with what you got.


You can also do this with DB's... not to mention single arm rows which i really like.
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Hmm, I'll give it a try on the smith and let you know. Thanks for the heads up.
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I did a lot of reading late last night and this morning on carb cycling. Learned a lot.

Starting next week I'm going to flip my workouts. Back/Legs/Bis will now go on Monday/Thursday to line up with my higher carb days following zero carb days.

So my schedule right now is looking like...

Monday: Moderate Carb : Back/Legs/Bi
Tuesday: Low Carb : Chest/Shoulders/Tris/Abs
Wednesday: No Carb : No workout.
Thursday: Moderate Carb : Back/Legs/Bi
Friday: Low Carb : Chest/Shoulders/Tris/Abs
Saturday: Low Carb : Possible cardio.
Sunday: No Carb : No workout.

Saturday nights will forever be a problem. I always do a little drinking on the weekend but never go overboard. I'll try to workout this issue the best I can.

BGLD, Jlo... any obvious issues?
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Thanks so much, JLo. Great info.

Is the "Avoid eating fats/carbs together" a universal rule? Or is this something specific to just carb cycling? In other words, should I eat my fats inbetween my breakfast, pre and post workout carb meals instead of eating them together?
The premise is that your body will use either the carb or fat source for energy and the other will be stored. I apply this principle always, but of course there will be "built-in" fats/carbs in most meals. That really can't be avoided 100%. Besides, after training you don't want fat to hinder the absorption time for your carbs.

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I did a lot of reading late last night and this morning on carb cycling. Learned a lot.

Starting next week I'm going to flip my workouts. Back/Legs/Bis will now go on Monday/Thursday to line up with my higher carb days following zero carb days.

So my schedule right now is looking like...

Monday: Moderate Carb : Back/Legs/Bi
Tuesday: Low Carb : Chest/Shoulders/Tris/Abs
Wednesday: No Carb : No workout.
Thursday: Moderate Carb : Back/Legs/Bi
Friday: Low Carb : Chest/Shoulders/Tris/Abs
Saturday: Low Carb : Possible cardio.
Sunday: No Carb : No workout.

Saturday nights will forever be a problem. I always do a little drinking on the weekend but never go overboard. I'll try to workout this issue the best I can.

BGLD, Jlo... any obvious issues?
I'd make every other Thursday a refeed day. You need refeeds. Very important.

Tell me what you consider the difference to be between Moderate and Low carb days?
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Jlo, correct me if I am wrong, but I think the approximate carb numbers are as follows.

Low carb days - 220 grams
Moderate - 250
Refeed - 270 to 300+


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Speaking of Boyd, iIs there anyway he can get readmitted to these boards since the moderator who had a problem with him is now gone? To me, it was selfish for that mod to ban him and then leave the boards himself. Boyd had some great info that Is missed around here now.

sorry to hijack Gill.
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Jlo, correct me if I am wrong, but I think the approximate carb numbers are as follows.

Low carb days - 220 grams
Moderate - 250
Refeed - 270 to 300+