Gill's Carb Cycling Log - Page 4 - BodybuildingForYou

Gill · #61 (**permalink**) 04-05-2008, 11:40 PM

Haha, you ass! Nice call. I meant cottage cheese acts like cream cheese. My typing is going straight down the drain lately.

Gill · #62 (**permalink**) 04-06-2008, 10:40 PM

A few updates. Logging over the weekend is a real chore since I'm usually out of town. I'm no longer going to be logging my weekends (Friday-Sunday). Anything I feel is special enough to note regarding my diet over the weekend I'll post here and in the notes field of the log.

Second, after some recent reevaluations of my situation and physical standing, I've decided to change my goal perspective from fat loss to lean-body-mass gain. Luckily, this doesn't require much of a change to my carb cycling since it does both simultaneously (when done properly). I'm going to continue with CC with one minor adjustment... I'm going to start eating more. I'm going to start off by aiming to take in around 2,500 calories while still abiding by proper CC techniques.

Like I said, thanks to CC, there isn't much of a change to my lifestyle, but change of perspective can be vital to any process of self-improvement.

Tomorrow is a moderate carb day (yesterday was zero carbs).

Gill · #63 (**permalink**) 04-07-2008, 06:55 PM

Felt good in the gym tonight. Definitely noticed a strength increase from last week. Unfortunately, I didn't realize I wasn't as winded as usual and failed to push myself hard on the weight in most areas. I'll definitely push myself to the limit tomorrow on chest/shoulders/tris.

BigMikeD · #64 (**permalink**) 04-07-2008, 07:21 PM

Gill,

Are you doing concentration curls before your Hammers?

Gill · #65 (**permalink**) 04-07-2008, 08:30 PM

Yes. Is that improper order or are you wondering why my bis werent burned out enough to need to drop weight?

I was wondering the same thing. I think it has to do with my recent focus on having perfect form.

BigMikeD · #66 (**permalink**) 04-07-2008, 11:43 PM

Ya, I think you have it backwards bud, concentration curls should always come last imo.

Hammers are an overall size builder whereas concentration curls are meant to isolate the peak of the bicep... better to use as a final burnout curl.

Also, I would suggest starting off with a standard bb curl or maybe a preacher bb curl... those combined with hammers and concentration curls have worked well for me.

Gill · #67 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 07:17 AM

Aye unforunately I don't have access to a proper gym. I don't have any free weights besides DBs. No preacher or BB curls.

If you were using DBs for hammers and curls, what would the weight difference be that you used on the two exercises?

mitchcumstein · #68 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMikeD

Ya, I think you have it backwards bud, concentration curls should always come last imo.

Hammers are an overall size builder whereas concentration curls are meant to isolate the peak of the bicep... better to use as a final burnout curl.

Also, I would suggest starting off with a standard bb curl or maybe a preacher bb curl... those combined with hammers and concentration curls have worked well for me.

You cant isolate different parts of the bicep. you simply add muscle and the shape it takes on is entirely dependant on genetics.

BiggerGuns=LongerDrives · #69 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

You cant isolate different parts of the bicep. you simply add muscle and the shape it takes on is entirely dependant on genetics.

Truth be told!

jlozan84 · #70 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMikeD

Ya, I think you have it backwards bud, concentration curls should always come last imo.

Hammers are an overall size builder whereas concentration curls are meant to isolate the peak of the bicep... better to use as a final burnout curl.

Also, I would suggest starting off with a standard bb curl or maybe a preacher bb curl... those combined with hammers and concentration curls have worked well for me.

I'd recommend you start with deads, then barbell rows, maybe some t-bars, then chins. If you have time to waste at the end, you might wanna do some bicep nonsense.

Just a personal preference though. lol

BigMikeD · #71 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitchcumstein

You cant isolate different parts of the bicep. you simply add muscle and the shape it takes on is entirely dependant on genetics.

Hmm, im not disagreeing with you but im just wondering why so many things i read say that concentration curls are meant to target the "peak of the bicep" is that not the same as isolation?

Gill · #72 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 01:49 PM

My biceps are always tired by the time I get to my bicep lifts. If I just want in and do curls, I can do 45lb DBs, after my workout, 35s are all I can pull and manage to complete my sets. I'm not depending on bicep exercses solely for bicep growth. Bent over rows, seated rows and pull downs all work my biceps.

Thanks for the comments guys.

BiggerGuns=LongerDrives · #73 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMikeD

Hmm, im not disagreeing with you but im just wondering why so many things i read say that concentration curls are meant to target the "peak of the bicep" is that not the same as isolation?

Yes, alot is said, but there is alot myths that get circulated, no?
Just pic up a bodybuilding mag, they are filled with myths.

You are basically falling victim to the idea that one can "shape" a muscle.
The fact is that you cannot "shape a muscle" (a bicep in this case), nor can you ‘fill in the gap’ or "lengthen your biceps"...
A muscle simply expands and gets bigger or it doesnt and and it's final shape is predetermined, it's not up to you on how the shape will appear.
It's similiar to how one carries his/her fat, it's not up to you, the body places it where it likes.

It's pure genetics, so Concentration curls will not magically add a peak. Thats why some bodybuilders have high peaks (Arnold, Ronnie) and some have very little peak, but thick round and long biceps (Kevin Levrone, Sergio Oliva) . Are you telling me Kevin and Sergio decided to never do concentration curls therefore they had no peaks?? haha of course not!

Sorry Gill, we are some highjackers up in here

BigMikeD · #74 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

Yes, alot is said, but there is alot myths that get circulated, no?
Just pic up a bodybuilding mag, they are filled with myths.

You are basically falling victim to the idea that one can "shape" a muscle.
The fact is that you cannot "shape a muscle" (a bicep in this case), nor can you ‘fill in the gap’ or "lengthen your biceps"...
A muscle simply expands and gets bigger or it doesnt and and it's final shape is predetermined, it's not up to you on how the shape will appear.
It's similiar to how one carries his/her fat, it's not up to you, the body places it where it likes.

It's pure genetics, so Concentration curls will not magically add a peak. Thats why some bodybuilders have high peaks (Arnold, Ronnie) and some have very little peak, but thick round and long biceps (Kevin Levrone, Sergio Oliva) . Are you telling me Kevin and Sergio decided to never do concentration curls therefore they had no peaks?? haha of course not!

Sorry Gill, we are some highjackers up in here

pfft... you and your damn logic...

BiggerGuns=LongerDrives · #75 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 03:19 PM

No disrespect bud, I used to think the same way.
It wasnt until I came online that I became aware

I have always had alot of gym experience as my Dad was a powerlifter growing up (he still is to this day, 54 yrs old)

But the other side of things, diet and anatomy knowledge, I have picked up in the last few years

Gill · #76 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 03:26 PM

Never a problem BGLD. Especially when its you guys talking. I always learn something.

BigMikeD · #77 (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BiggerGuns=LongerDrives

No disrespect bud, I used to think the same way.
It wasnt until I came online that I became aware

I have always had alot of gym experience as my Dad was a powerlifter growing up (he still is to this day, 54 yrs old)

But the other side of things, diet and anatomy knowledge, I have picked up in the last few years

None taken man, i appreciate the good info!

If there is one thing I've realized about this sport its that there is a metric **** ton of misinformation out there. The huge stack of M&F mags sitting next to my toilet are a perfect example.

Gill · #78 (**permalink**) 04-09-2008, 05:41 PM

Caught some wicked stomach bug today. I've been an open faucet all day long. Sucks a big one. Been trying to sleep it off as much as possible. Had to skip class which means I'll be playing catch up for 3 days trying to make up for missing one. Gah.

Anywho, sorry for lack of updates. Not feeling well.

Gill · #79 (**permalink**) 04-13-2008, 01:33 PM

Life is beating me senseless right now. Got over being sick and spent the whole weekend catching up on work.

I'm probably going to have to call it quits on my log before long. With everything else going on its hard to keep my eye on the ball. I've still been lifting and eating well (for the most part), but my carb cycling has been minimally practiced.

That isn't to say I didn't feel CC as worth the time. Honestly, I had several cuts appear in the short time I was doing CC that hadn't previously been there, yet I was eating more food that I use to on a regular "watch what you eat" diet.

Simply put, my life is far too hectic right now to keep up with it all. I'm going to end up going back to basics. Lift hard and heavy, eat cleans foods and lots of them and sleep like a champ.

Thanks for all of the advice and time invested into helping me with this venture. I hope I didn't let anybody down (especially you BGLD!). This is something I'll definitely do again when I have the resources, resilience and stability to rely on.