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Old 05-30-2007, 03:23 PM
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That's exactly what I need! Feed me some knowledge.

I'm not proud, I know I need to improve and want it more than anything, except women and beer.
A'ight, we'll get drunk and discuss this tomorrow. Holy sh!t, we should be cruising well by this time tomorrow.
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A'ight, we'll get drunk and discuss this tomorrow. Holy sh!t, we should be cruising well by this time tomorrow.
I know man, been stoked as hell all day today. Didn't get **** done at work today, was too busy thinking about tomorrow.
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I think the point comes down to this.

The people that workout hard in the gym and dont pin are frustrated with the guys that workout hard, pin, and then deny it. There's a hint of jelousy in this thinking, but its certainly rational thought.
But my thing is why does anyone else care what anyone else is doing? I'm worried about numero uno - not what Bobby Pinhead is doing in the gym. If I see someone that looks better than I do, my hat is off to them. I'm not jealous or thinking "I'd look better than him if I was juicing" or whatever. Whether or not they're doing anything or not never even crosses my mind.

I do have a problem with people that just voluntarily come out and say "I'm all natural and have always been" if they're not. Just don't say anything. With that being said, I don't think anyone has any obligation to tell people what they do, and I don't think it's anyone else's business just to ask.

There is an unnecessary stigma with steroid use, and most of the people fear it or shun it rather than understand it. There are plenty of people who use them responsibly and they work harder than most people, diet hard and do what they need to do. Of course there are morons that just plug away, the more the better, but I don't, in anyway, think that is necessarily "unfair" to me that they do that. I mean, what are they taking from me? I'm not a competitor. They aren't getting any of my money.

I guess I'm just secure in myself and I don't feel the need to get jealous when someone looks better than me. Idiots will always be idiots (DA for example) but I don't have a problem with anything anyone else is doing.
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Don't worry...I think Boyd will tell you curls aren't really that important. If he does i'll loose all faith...

Just catch the bastard on bench lol. Somebody has to. I know It'll be before I do.
I think BigNate is coming up on him.
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I think BigNate is coming up on him.
Whether or not he is or not, he's light years ahead of where I was when I was his age. Hell, he's light years where I was when I was like 25...

But I'm still better with the women then he is...
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But I'm still better with the women then he is...
And thats what really counts isn't it?
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Odd journal - full of rants about a washed up comedian. If he's on juice then he'll at least have some new material about the side effects.

Oh and a word about Bonds - It doesn't matter how much juice you are on, it still takes a certain amount of skill to crush a curve ball over the fence. Check his stats out - he hits for average as well. He's not a McGwire or a Giambi. Cheating - sure, but your hat still has to go off to someone that is still one of the best, jerk or not.

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Noticed on your back day that it's almost all deadlift. So come next week, that's the big daddy workout for me. I'll be taking the straps with me on that one!

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Old 06-05-2007, 08:09 AM
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Alright y'all, I had to dust this thing off and get back to business. I'm going to go lighter for 2 weeks and give my body a chance to heal up a bit before I crush it for 4-6 straight weeks. So, consider this my deload period.

Inc db press
100x12x4

Flat DB Press ss w/cable flies
100x12 - 100x15 x 3

Seated Military Press
75x12x4

Laterals
40x15x4

Quick and easy. I'm burning, but not dying.
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Old 06-16-2007, 05:33 PM
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Don't worry, I'm still whipping ass 5 days per week, just haven't been inclined to log it. Here's today work.

Squat - let's go 25 reps, shall we?

All feet 6" apart.

225x25x4

Man, the O2 factor just kicks the **** out of you, especially with close ass feet here.

Leg Press
1 leg (right, left) and then 2 legs.
1 leg - 320x15 - 2 legs (no rest) 500x40
The sets diminished after that and the last 3 were the same 1 leg and then 500x30. SMOKED at this point. I think I busted a blood vessel in my head and I had that sharp ass pain I got in Iraq. After I almost passed out initially, I got my breath and pressed on.

Calf presses
500x15 (slow ass motion) x 5

Pull Throughs
150x20x4

Since SLDL are one of my faves and best lifts, I saved them until I was almost cooked.

315x12x4

All in all great workout. The guy I do legs with is pretty no nonsense and although we talk crazy sh!t (I know, not Boyd) we don't rest much and we push each other. I'm a bit stronger than him, but he's motivated and just strong enough to where there's no way in hell he's going to let me slack off.

My family leaves tomorrow, so I'll be able to get back to a normal life. They've worn me down this weekend, for sure.
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:13 PM
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Today was the most important part of my week - I took a day off. I'm waiting on the weather to head to the lake.

Tomorrow is deep, heavy ass squats. It's going to be hell after that heavy deadlifting session I had the other day that I'm not sure I've recovered from yet, but we'll see.
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Old 06-23-2007, 09:46 AM
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I've done it a million times and I think most of you are just either full of sh!t or don't have the intensity to get it done...

3 days ago, I set a PR on deads of 650lbs. I STILL feel it. Today, I worked with my bud that couldn't dead with me on Wednesday and he wanted to do it today. I agreed.

I was out all night on the boat. No sleep, a few beers, no carbs this morning (I had a protein shake and a Powerade Option). My back is tight the lake.

Squats
225x10x3
315x10
405x6x2
455x3x2

Saved something for deads... Yes, I DID hold back a bit, but you can't tell me that wasn't a nice stim from squats.

Deads
315x5
405x3
455x5x5

He only deads around 405, so I just did work sets with his. Sure this is way under where I normally work, but my point is this was still a hell of a workout, but it wasn't over...

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5 sets, holding a 25lb plate x 10, 10, 10, 8, 8

Since I didn't do any biceps the other day, I did 4 sets of 60lb dbs x 12e and then 3 sets of cable ropes, 150x15...

Again, I get a serious kick out of people who say "You cannot do deads and squats together." I dare someone to say I don't go all out - that's bull****. Ever seen Bill Starr's programs? Hell, I go to damn near fainting on squats most of the time, but as soon as they're over, I have a surge of energy and strength - doesn't everyone?

I'm just kind of tired of people talking out of their asses about what MUST be done and what you CANNOT do. I'm calling bullsh!t on all of y'all that perpetuate that sh!t.
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Old 06-23-2007, 10:03 AM
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damn dude, why the delwick anfony talk lol.

I've done deads and squats on the same day before. I'm actually considering doing that more often since my schedule is a liitle hectic as of late.

I know Westside Barbell does heavy squats and deads on the same day. I've thought about going westside for awhile.
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Nice lifts. As you well know Boyd I'm throwing around some different ideas and may end up in the same "predicament" of DL and squat on the same day. But I don't see why not if the intensity's there on every set.
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Theara,

Every time I logon here, I see someone saying "Don't do this because ________" and 99% of the time, it's the same regurgitated sh!t that some other ass clown stated without any reliance on experience or proof. LOL - I am joking most of the time when I seem fired up, but I do let stupid sh!t bother me, like people acting like there's one way to workout.

Yeah, WSB does them on the same day as well, and there are plenty of people whipping ass on that program as well.

One thing is quite simple - the movements are extremely similar. One of the programs I designed for myself when I was in Iraq had me doing them on the same day ever 5th day and I the progress I was making was as good as I've ever done. I can't distinguish between going to failure and going all out on these heavy ass lifts. It's very binary to me - either I get it or I don't. May be a set of 2, 3, or whatever. That failure talk is for sh!t like db curls or whatever. When you're lifting heavy, either you succeed or fail. There is no middle ground. On cable rope curls? Yeah, you can go to failure, of course. But THAT isn't the set that is inducing growth. Picking 600+ lbs off the floor is what's doing the trick.

For people to say "there's no way you can hammer squats after you do deads" or vice versa, I'm betting they don't go full throttle every set anyway and they're looking for an easy way out or they'd just prefer to get to the isolation exercises so they can get in the mirror and look at their pump.

I don't always do them on the same day, but I'm leaning toward going that direction for a while. Since I honestly don't view days as "what body part I'm working" it really doesn't make a sh!t. Plus, I feel I can get a lot more done on days with other types of pulls and rows if I'm not spending an assload of time on deads. For me, I can kick ass on 1 day for 3 hours in the gym, keep my other days sub 90 minutes and still continue to grow, grow, grow...

Hammer - just try it dude and see how YOU like it. Don't listen to the bullsh!t - believe you love it and you will love it...
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I've done them on the same day before ,and it's not that big of a deal.

The only reason I seperate them now is for the different acess. I do with each.
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I've done them on the same day before ,and it's not that big of a deal.

The only reason I seperate them now is for the different acess. I do with each.
And I can def appreciate doing it for that reason - lol - you have most of these guys that don't even know what the accessory exercises for the respective exercises are saying "Don't do them..." When I do them both on the same day, I find I have more focus on the accessory work on different days (spaced out properly, of course) so I get to spend more time on my weaknesses.
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Personally, doing them both on the same day is fine, but hitting PRs on both lifts every other week whilst doing them on the same today is too hard.
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