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Old 02-05-2007, 03:25 PM
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So today was the day i started cutting...i weighed in at 261(very bloated)... probably 18%bf and hoping to get it down to 9% by June...

my diet will be low carb high protein diet..with about 300-350g of protein daily and less than 100g or carbs...and im going to try to keep my caloric intake down to about 2000 daily...Im starting off with low intensity high rep lifting and 20 min. cardio directly after lifting to maximize fat loss..on tuesday and thursdays i plan on doing this 2x a day and fri-sun run mornings and workout/run in the evenings...any input or help is appreciated...thanks
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Only 100 carbs at 261 is too low for a long cut but fine for a one or two week jump start. When I cut in the past I would eat 150-200 carbs a day but once a week have a 350+ carb day.
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yeah its just a starting out thing...then once i get past the first 2 weeks im going to take a fat burner...probably methyl ripped or BSN has a new one called atro-phex that i might try out...from what do you think i should get the majority of my carbs? i try to get most of my carbs with fruit and a couple crackers that i eat with my tuna...plus some is in the beef jerky and protein shakes
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Complex Carbs
  • Oatmeal (Old Fashioned or Quick Oats)
  • Sweet Potatoes (Yams)
  • Beans (pinto, black, kidney)
  • Oat Bran Cereal
  • Brown Rice
  • Brown Basmati Rice
  • Farina (Cream of Wheat)
  • Multigrain Hot Cereal
  • Whole wheet Pasta
  • Potatoes (red, baking, new)
Fibrous Carbs
  • Green Leafy Lettuce (Green Leaf, Red, Leaf, Romaine)
  • Broccoli
  • Spinach
  • String Beans
  • Spinach
  • Bell Peppers
  • Brussels Sprouts
  • Cauliflower
  • Celery
  • Asparagus

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Some fruit is good, I would have to look it up but apples and berries are low in carbs and very healthy
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hows this diet?

7am- 5 egg whites
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thats only 15g of protien your going to need alot more eggs than that. My typical breakfest is 12 egg whites 2 whole eggs and a cup of oatmeal around 50g of protien and 50g carbs. I'm dropping weight and gaining strength on this diet, taking in 300g protien 225g carbs and 100g fats
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hows this diet? good or too much?

7:00a
1c high fiber oatmeal
5 egg whites
1 scoop whey
1 small apple


9:00a
6oz chicken breast
1c uncooked broccoli
1 small apple

11:00a
4oz beef jerky (2g fat, 12g carb, 60g protein)
1 grapefruit or orange

1:00p
1 scoop whey
1 small apple

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2 scoops whey
1 banana

5:00p
6oz chicken breast
1c any veggie probably steamed or raw

8:00p
6oz chicken
12oz v8

10:30p
2 scoops whey in lowfat milk
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thats only 15g of protien your going to need alot more eggs than that. My typical breakfest is 12 egg whites 2 whole eggs and a cup of oatmeal around 50g of protien and 50g carbs. I'm dropping weight and gaining strength on this diet, taking in 300g protien 225g carbs and 100g fats
haha my bad i didnt mean to post that i wasnt finished
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thats only 15g of protien your going to need alot more eggs than that. My typical breakfest is 12 egg whites 2 whole eggs and a cup of oatmeal around 50g of protien and 50g carbs. I'm dropping weight and gaining strength on this diet, taking in 300g protien 225g carbs and 100g fats

also thats too much fat and carbs for me at this point
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That is a lot of whey
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As Patrick said, make sure you do re-feed days for your carbs if you are going ultra-low on them.

I didn't do the numbers on that diet, but it doesn't look like much food. Personally, I would melt away on that diet. Can you post up the macros? As Stuk said, you seem to be relying on too many shakes......
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its 180g carbs, 350g protein, 27g fat, 2400 calories...and sunday will be my "carb-up" day...ill probably eat some pizza or spaghetti
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instead of whey before i go to bed ill change that to a carton of processed egg whites which is 0g fat, 250 cals, 50g protein...
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That isn't enough cals man, especially at your age.......I would add some more healthy fats in. Like olive oil in the morning shake or something and maybe some in the afternoon.

Stuk is lighter than you and he is taking in 3k cals and losing weight. You don't want to drop muscle man.

IMO, you need to up your protein, reduce carbs to only in the morning and surrounding your training and up the healthy fats a little.

This is your pre-workout meal? Joke right?

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what else should i eat pre-workout? how many cals should i get? is 400g protein enough or more?
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You need to carb-up before you train. After you train, eat carbs as well. Bateman posted some good carbs above (oatmeal, sweet potatoes, rice, etc). 400g of protein is enough.......

I would start @ 3k and see how it works out. If you don't lose weight, lower it. With the right diet and cardio, you will drop enough.

On non-training days, I would only eat complex carbs for breakfast (not many) and only trace carbs rest of the day.

For your re-feeding day, don't go insane and blow your whole week, but you do need to carb up.

EDIT: Was the pre-workout meal above what you did for you bench max attempt this week?
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no i had a huge carb meal, spaghetti and pizza..then an hr later i took 3 scoops no xplode and nitrix and cellmass together
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today i weighed in at 260.5...

i worked out at 930 for about an hr then i ran for 15 minutes right after..then i worked out