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So after keeping journals at other bodybuilding sites like Ironmagazine, Wannabebig, BB.com, and Elitefitness, I have to say I didn't really like any of them all that much. BB4U seems like a solid forum and its probably going to explode with activity over the course of the next couple of years, so I'm going to start a journal here.

The program that I'm going to be following is called Baby Got Back, and I'm going to copy and paste the article:

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Building the Ultimate Back

The back can be thought of as being divided into vertical and horizontal planes. So, back training should really be split into two workouts - one devoted to horizontal pulling (thickness based workout / rowing movements) and one devoted to vertical pulling (width based workout / pull ups). As for heavy Deadlifts, they will round out your back workout.

I have divided some exercises into the two planes of motion you will be working in.

Horizontal Pulling

• Barbell Rows (vary the grip between pronated and supinated)
• T-Bar Rows (vary the grip between pronated and supinated)
• Rack Pulls (vary the pin height, usually set them set below the knee/mid shin area)
• Seated Cable Rows

Vertical Pulling

• Lat Pulldowns (various grips and widths)
• Pull Ups
• Chin Ups
• Pull-Overs (Nautilus, cable, bar)

Picking a Grip

Choose one and stick with it throughout the course of the program - then switch when you want to change exercises. This will help with maintaining consistency and you'll be able to tell whether you're progressing or not.

For example, if you perform the Bent Barbell Row - you'll find that you can probably lift more weight with a supinated grip because the biceps are assisting the movement.

So if you're switching back and forth between grips during each workout, or every other workout, then it may be difficult to gauge progress.

So choose one and stick with it.
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There are three main grips that can be utilized when lifting:

1. Supinated grip means palms facing your body.
2. Pronated means palms facing away from your body.
3. Semi-supinated (neutral grip) means palms facing each other.

Examples of each grip used in an exercise would be: pull-up uses a pronated grip, palms facing away from your body while chin-ups use the other two grips.

Dealing with Deadlifts

Straight Legged Deadlifts/Regular Deadlifts

Straight Legged Deadlifts/Regular Deadlifts are decent for the hip extension function, and therefore the lower back, but not so much for great upper back development, at least comparatively speaking.

Regular Deadlifts

Regular deadlifts are a 'hip dominant' exercise. They hit the whole posterior chain - from hamstrings up to traps. They are the King of back development. Deadlifts should be performed first in your back workout, as they require appropriate motor control of multiple muscles. In other words, if you choose to do them down the line in your list of exercises, the chances of injury will increase.

You can be pretty sure you're doing it right if you're getting war-wounds on your shins. It's basically a sign that the bar is staying really close to your body.

Try to keep your sets short for two reasons:

1. It is a complex movement and form tends to break down with higher reps.

2. It is a strength movement. Your goal is to get strong on this exercise.

Keep the reps under 5 with regular deadlifts. You can go higher with SLDLs/RDLs as the weight you will be using is not as heavy and as taxing as a regular deadlift is on the body.

Rack Pulls

A rack pull is performed like a regular deadlift, except off pins. Click here for a graphical example of rack pulls

Pulling from the floor presents a greater challenge. The weight travels a greater distance, and the glutes and hams are targeted to a greater degree. If you choose to pull from pins, focus on your back. This is essentially what’s working on the upper portion of a deadlift. Also, because the range of motion is shorter you should be able to lift a bit heavier.

You can vary the pin height, but try not to do it set-to-set or workout-to-workout. This has to do with being able to accurately gauge progress. Changing things too frequently will make tracking progress from a strength standpoint more difficult. Stick with something for four weeks, and then switch it up a bit.

Building This into a Workout

Try pairing a horizontal pulling workout with horizontal pushing (chest) and the vertical pulling with vertical pushing (shoulders) to ensure that the volume around the joints is kept constant. This is assuming that muscle groups are being trained once per week.

An upper/lower split or an undulating split (with increased frequency, where everything basically gets hit twice per week) is better for hypertrophy. The one thing you have to consider when doing this is that the volume per body part per workout is lowered, but the weekly volume stills allows for an adequate growth stimulus to occur.



The 4 day split workout

DAY 1 - HORIZONTAL PUSH PULL

Horizontal plane back (pull)

Select from:

• Bent barbell rows (vary the grip between pronated and supinated)

• T-Bar Rows (vary the grip between pronated and supinated)

• Rack Pulls (vary the pin height, usually set them set below the knee/mid shin area)

• Seated Cable Rows

• Dumbbell row

• Hammer Strength row

Horizontal plane chest (push)

Select from:

• Flat barbell press

• Dumbbell press

• Low incline press.

• Flat or incline flies

(Standing calves, short, heavy sets)

DAY 2 - QUAD DOMINANT LEGS

Go short and heavy on two quad dominant exercises and lighter with higher reps for one ham dominant exercise. (Here, hams are accessory, so they go lighter, with higher reps)

(Biceps)

DAY 3 - VERTICAL PUSH/PULL

Vertical plane back (pull)

Select from:

• Lat Pulldowns (various grips and widths)

• Pull Ups

• Chin Ups

• Pull-Overs (Nautilus, cable, bar)

• Any of the Hammer high rows

Vertical plane shoulders (push)

Select from:

• Standing barbell press

• Dumbbell press

• Arnold press

• Laterals, etc

(Seated calves, long sets)

DAY 4 – HIP/HAMSTRING DOMINANT LEGS

This is the opposite of day 2. Go short and heavy on 2 hip/ham dominant exercises and light with higher reps for one quad dominant exercise. Here, quads are accessory, so they go lighter, with higher reps.

(Tricep work)



BGB Programme Notes

It’s a four-day workout.

Day one is an upper body day: horizontal push-pull. This means back and chest are paired together so they don't tire each other out.

Back will hit back hard, biceps light. Chest will hit chest hard, triceps light. Chest work also hits front delts a bit.

Since there's no legwork on this day, toss in some calf work. You can throw in an ab exercise as well.

If you do seated calves on this one, do standing calves on the next upper-body day.

Day two is lower body: quad-dominant, hamstring accessory.

This means you're hitting quads heavy and hard, hams lightly. Add in an arm exercise to round this out. Either biceps or triceps - if you do triceps on this day then do biceps on the other leg day. Pick two different arm exercises - one heavy and hard, one a little lighter, slightly longer reps.

Day three is upper again: vertical push-pull. This means more back (but mostly lats), and shoulders. Biceps get another small hit here with lat work, triceps a small hit with some of the shoulder work and possibly some of the lat work.

Since there's no legwork on this day, toss in a calf exercise, and add in an ab exercise as well, just like horizontal push-pull day. Pick a different calf exercise, and a different ab exercise than you did on horizontal push-pull.

Day four is lower: hamstring dominant, quad accessory.

This workout hits the hamstrings hard and heavy while going a little lighter and longer with the quad work. You're still working all muscles hard, but with different rep ranges.

Because the arms aren't overly fatigued on hamstring-dominant day, add in two arm exercises - if you did biceps on quad-dominant day, do triceps on hamstring-dominant day.



SAMPLE WORKOUT

Day 1: Horizontal push pull, calves, and abs

Thickness back: direct
Chest: direct
Biceps: indirect
Triceps: indirect
Front Delts: indirect
Calves, abs: direct


Thickness-Back:

Rack pulls 5x5 (direct, hard, strength range)

Bent-over rows 3x8 (hypertrophy range)
(If you do a third, Hammer Rows 3x10-12)

Chest:

Flat bench 5x5

Incline dumbbell press 3x8
(if you do a third, Incline cable flyes 3x10-12)

Calves: (soleus) 3x12-20 seated calf raises. Pause at the bottom

Abs: 3 sets of 8-12, weighted

Day 2: Quad dominant, hamstring accessory. Biceps.
Quads: direct, heavy, low reps
Hamstrings: direct, lighter, high reps
Arms: direct
Calves: indirect
Abs: indirect

Quads:

Full squats 5x5

Leg press 3x8

Hamstrings:

Leg curls or high foot placement leg press 3-4 sets of 12-20

Biceps:

Seated alternating bicep curls 5x5

Hammer curls 3x8-12

Day 3: Vertical push-pull, calves, abs

Width-Back: direct
Shoulders: direct
Calves: direct
Abs: direct
Biceps: indirect with pull-ups, chin-ups, pulldowns
Triceps: indirect with shoulders and some lat work
Chest: indirect with some lat work, possibly, such as dumbbell pullovers

Width-Back:

Chins 5x5

Hammer high rows 3x8
(if you do a third, Hammer Behind the Neck rows or lying pullovers 3x12)

Shoulders: (I like to warm up with bent over side laterals, which work the often-neglected rear delts anyway – 3x10)

Arnold Press or Military Press 5x5

Standing side laterals 3x8

Calves: (gastrocs) standing or donkey calf raises, 3x8-10

Abs: 3 sets of 8-12, weighted

Day 4: Hamstring dominant, quad accessory. Triceps.

Hamstrings/Glutes: direct, heavy, low reps
Quads: direct, lighter, high reps
Triceps: direct
Calves: indirect
Abs: indirect

Hamstrings/glutes:

Romanian Deadlifts 5x5

Good mornings or high foot placement leg press 3x8

Quads:

Walking lunges or seated leg extensions 3x12-20

Triceps:

Skullcrushers, Dips, or between bench dips 5x5

Cable pressdowns 3x8-12
I've used this program in the past and I absolutely love it. I absolutely hate training legs like a lot of you out there and it pairs up biceps or triceps with quads/hamstrings, which really makes it much more tolerable. This program uses the 5x5 or 5 sets of 5 technique on a regular basis, and I'll be looking forward to getting into that.

My diet is going to be tracked daily on Fitday.com and I'm going to be shooting for around 300g of protein, 200g of carbs, and 100g of fat a day, roughly 3K calories a day. My split is probably going to be something close to 3 days on / 1 day off but I always play it by ear. I've gone as many as 10 days in a row training straight before on Baby Got Back.

Feel free to post comments/questions/support/advice/suggestions.
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Sunday; 7-23-2005


Horizontal Push/Pull (50 minutes, 20 sets)

Flat DB Presses
5 sets of 5 with the 100's

Bentover Rows
5 sets of 5 with 225

Incline DB Flyes
3 sets of 8 with the 40's

Hammer Strength Rows
3 sets of 8 with 150

Pec-Deck Flyes
2 sets of 12 with 100

Reverse Pec-Deck Flyes
2 sets of 12 with 60

Cardio
10 minutes of incline walking on the treadmill, 3.4 MPH at an 8% incline.


Diet-

Preworkout: 1 scoop of whey protein, whole-grain english muffin
Postworkout: 1 scoop of whey protein + 1 cup of skim milk, 1 oatmeal packet
Meal 1: 2 cans of tuna + mayo
Meal 2: 1/2 ham sandwich
Meal 3: low-fat turkey chili, salad, sweet corn
Meal 4: 3 scoops of whey protein + 2 cups of skim milk
Meal 5: 2 tbsp. peanut butter

Total Calories: 3,000
Total (g) Protein: 316g
Total (g) Carbs: 230g
Total (g) Fat: 92g


Sleep- 8 hours.

Weight- 211 lbs. A bit too high, looking to get under 200 lbs. in the next few months.
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you have any goals of pulling 700 lbs? that would be awesome considering only a few can pull that much.

-lets see how big your back gets. i'll be reading
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Yeah I have set a few goals in the past, but as of now I'm basically trying to cut down a bit. I want to cut up my midsection a little more, so we'll see what happens. And I posted a few back shots in the other thread, so I think I have decent back genetics as it is.
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Well look at this! If it isn't the Baby Got Back inventer herself, nice to see you stopping by, appreciate it. I absolutely love these forums so far, and I think you will to. I'm looking forward to keeping my journal here. And by the way, I'm mixing up things a bit in the program. Instead of doing all 3 chest exercises then all 3 back exercises, I'm going to start alternating one chest exercise, then one back exercise, etc. I think I'm going to do the same thing today with quads and do one leg exercise, then a biceps exercise, etc.
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hey I had to laugh at the title...ah Sir Mix a lot...
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Hah, I think we all have a little bit of a laugh at that. The program is sound though, I can't stray from it. Everytime I try something new I always end up right back doing this program again. Gotta' stick to what works.
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Monday; 7-24-2006


Quad Dominant Legs (40 minutes, 19 sets)

Leg Presses
5 sets of 5 with 590

Standing BB Curls
3 sets of 5 with 105
2 sets of 4 with 105

Lying Leg Curls
3 sets of 7 with 110

Incline DB Hammer Curls
2 sets of 10 with the 35's

Standing Calf Raises
2 sets of 15 with 205

Abcore Crunches
2 sets of 15 with 25

Cardio
10 minutes of incline walking on the treadmill, 3.4 MPH at an 8% incline.


Diet-

Preworkout: 1 scoop of whey protein + 1 cup of skim milk, whole-grain english muffin
Postworkout: 2 cans of tuna + mayo, 1/2 cup of brown rice
Meal 1: 1% cottage cheese + apple sauce
Meal 2: 2 scoops of whey protein + 1 cup of skim milk + 2 tbsp. peanut butter
Meal 3: low-fat turkey chili, low-carb bread
Meal 4: 2 scoops of whey protein

Total Calories: 3,104
Total (g) Protein: 381g
Total (g) Carbs: 225g
Total (g) Fat: 73g


Sleep- 7 hours.
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hey I had to laugh at the title...ah Sir Mix a lot...
Hey, YOU do RDLs while wearing spandex. I swear, this routine just named itself!

Glad to see you're doing so well with this, Mike.

And good call on moving it around - I do the same thing, sometimes antagonistic supersets, sometimes like giant sets, only I rest in between - not iron cardio!

Did you see the wave loading parameters I'm using with it for my cut right now?

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The name of the program is classic, especially since its more of a back specialization program in a way I guess. No I haven't seen the wave loading, looks interesting, though. I never want to complicate my workouts too much because when I do that I never seem to listen to my body as much, I don't know why.
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Tuesday; 7-25-2006


Vertical Push/Pull (45 minutes, 20 sets)

Arnold Presses
5 sets of 5 with the 55's

Pull-Ups
3 sets of 5 with +45
2 sets of 4 with +45

Seated DB Lateral Raises
3 sets of 8 with the 25's

Crossbench DB Pullovers
3 sets of 8 with 75

DB Shrugs
2 sets of 11 with the 100's

BTN Cable Pulldowns
2 sets of 11 with 140

Cardio
10 minutes of incline walking on the treadmill, 3.4 MPH at an 8% incline.


Diet-

Preworkout: 1 scoop of whey protein + 1 cup of skim milk, whole-grain english muffin
Postworkout:
Meal 1:
Meal 2:
Meal 3:
Meal 4:

Total Calories:
Total (g) Protein:
Total (g) Carbs:
Total (g) Fat:


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