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Old 03-20-2006, 10:59 PM
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I think I will do my next workout on thursday or friday. Prob friday. I am going to continue to post my diet and workouts. Also, should I repost my pics in 1 month and see if there is any difference. Do you think that there should be a noticeable difference. Also, if I do this for say 3 months and I still look like I do, do you think I should go to the doc and see what the crap is the prob.
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Old 03-20-2006, 11:06 PM
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I think I will do my next workout on thursday or friday. Prob friday. I am going to continue to post my diet and workouts. Also, should I repost my pics in 1 month and see if there is any difference. Do you think that there should be a noticeable difference. Also, if I do this for say 3 months and I still look like I do, do you think I should go to the doc and see what the crap is the prob.
If this workout and eating regimen is not going to work for you then I can say that it might have a problem. However, by limiting your workouts it might just be what you needed to grow!! Some people are just hard gainers that's all.
Remember, start out with 65% of your working weights and build up to 90-95%by 6-7th week. Then you can go all out for a month and use a spotter and all that stuff to push new weights. So take it easy nowfor 4-6weeks.
In 3 months you should be able to gain about 10lbs.
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Old 03-20-2006, 11:09 PM
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That would be awesome, I just hope that I get a little more cut than what I am right now. But, I am going to work at this harder than I ever have in my life in order to weed out the problem. If I give my full effort all of the time, we know that the problem is not me trying hard enough.
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That would be awesome, I just hope that I get a little more cut than what I am right now. But, I am going to work at this harder than I ever have in my life in order to weed out the problem. If I give my full effort all of the time, we know that the problem is not me trying hard enough.
YOu need to train smart that's all, you will have the chance to train hard as well. For the 4-6 weeks you train smart at the beginning and for 5 weeks or so at the end you will train hard!!!
Listen, I usually do not go give this much help to anyone, but I feel that since you want to learn and work I will make an exception.

BTW, in the future if you hit a flat spot having some superdrol on the side will be a great help to break it off and grow again. So just keep some with you for some future use.
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Old 03-20-2006, 11:15 PM
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Sigh*

You should of done my workout. Dont be fooled by complicated routines it only leads to confusion and frustration. You should of kept it simple and incorporated squats, bench AND deads. I fail to see you overloading the muscle with 1 set of squats.

goodluck because your gonna need a ****load of it.
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Old 03-20-2006, 11:18 PM
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Listen man, I am incorporating your workout into mine quite a bit. I would normally do about 4 times the lifts that I am doing right now. Thanks for the encouragement though. Vassille, you have really been a help and I appreciate it a lot. But, I think I will hold on to the superdrol just because I know it will be gone soon, but I think I have a long ways to go before I start that stuff again.
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Listen man, I am incorporating your workout into mine quite a bit. I would normally do about 4 times the lifts that I am doing right now. Thanks for the encouragement though. Vassille, you have really been a help and I appreciate it a lot. But, I think I will hold on to the superdrol just because I know it will be gone soon, but I think I have a long ways to go before I start that stuff again.
U welcome man, and keep your focus and not pay attention to some here that are giving advise without knowing what they are saying. I will let you figure out who they are but I 'm sure you know already....LOL
Got to go now, but of you need advice or help PM or I will check this tread from time to time
One last suggestion, do 3*8 for squats starting in 2 weeks

Keep updating , peace
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Old 03-20-2006, 11:29 PM
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U welcome man, and keep your focus and not pay attention to some here that are giving advise without knowing what they are saying. I will let you figure out who they are but I 'm sure you know already....LOL
Got to go now, but of you need advice or help PM or I will check this tread from time to time
One last suggestion, do 3*8 for squats starting in 2 weeks

Keep updating , peace
I dont know what im talking about? The only one here who is a tad ignorant is you my friend.

You want proof? I'll post my routine and you put yours up, we'll see who doesnt know what they're talking about.
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Old 03-20-2006, 11:34 PM
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here is a good routine

MONDAY- Legs




Squats 4 Sets @ 5 reps
Box Squats 2 Sets @ 5 reps
Leg Press 4 sets @ 5-8
Seated Hip Abduction 1 set @ 20 reps
Heavy Abs 1 set @ 20 reps

WEDNESDAY




Barbell Bench Press 3 sets @ 5 reps
Dumbell Incline 3 sets @ 5 reps
Cable cross overs 3 sets @ 8 reps
military Press 2 sets @ 5 reps
Side lateral raises 2 sets @ 8-10 reps
Front lateral raises 2 sets @ 8-10 reps

FRIDAY




Deadlifts 4-5 sets @ 5 reps
SLDL 3 sets @ 5 reps
Barbell Rows 4-5 sets @ 8-10 reps
Upright Rows 3 sets @ 8-10 reps
Dumbell Rows 4-5 sets @ 8-10 reps




There is no arm work because your arms are only small part of your body, if you wish to gain weight you'll benefit more concentrating on the big compound lifts.

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Old 03-20-2006, 11:35 PM
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Hitting the exact rep is not that importan, but its good to hit heavy sets for strength, but some is good to have higher reps because form is too hard at a heavy weight.

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Old 03-20-2006, 11:51 PM
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That is very similar to the routine that I was doing for the last couple of months. You see what I look like with that routine. I was doing 4 sets of 4-6 reps on the big compound lifts. I didn't get any results but strength gains.
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That is very similar to the routine that I was doing for the last couple of months. You see what I look like with that routine. I was doing 4 sets of 4-6 reps on the big compound lifts. I didn't get any results but strength gains.
Obvioiusly due to the reason that you weren't eating enough. Dont tell me that that routine is ****, powerlifters use similar routines (excpet for upright rows, cables etc.).

What you dont think size comes with strength? Look at the powerlifters, look at Strong man competitors. ffs man its not just the routine that matters its what you eat as well.

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Old 03-21-2006, 05:01 PM
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I eat more than my 205 pound friend who is got 17 inch biceps and a 47 inch chest. He eats around 50 grams of protein a day. I eat about 3 times that. He eats around 3000 calories a day, pretty much what I do. He does the workout I posted and he has been doing it for 7 years, i would give anything to look like him. So, diet does have a lot to do with it, but apparently it is not everything, because he would be tiny if it was.
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Looks good, vassille has made some good points.

You are not working your back with those exercises. Also I think there is too much there for triceps. You were planning on doing this 3x a week so 4 heavy sets of tris, plus bench would be overkill. Thats 12 heavy sets of tris and 9 sets of bench in a week. If you want to get bigger what hmmm said is true. Focus on major muscle groups. "Your arms are only a small part of your body."

I would also switch up the order. Start with your larger groups and move through to your smaller. Ideally it should go legs, back, chest, shoulders, tris and finally bis.
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Old 03-21-2006, 08:47 PM
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He eats around 50 grams of protein a day. I eat about 3 times that. He eats around 3000 calories a day, pretty much what I do. He does the workout I posted and he has been doing it for 7 years, i would give anything to look like him.

1) you dont eat more than him just cause u eat more protein.

2) how long did you do the workout posted? Give it 7 years and u would be a lot closer than you are now

3) you may be ectomorph and him a mesomporph or endomorph and gains a lot easier than you genetically speaking. If you are a ecto, u need many more calories than a meso or endo.
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He is a mesomorph. So, he will get better gains, but I do eat more than him. Even in calories I eat more than him.
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well the mesomorph gives him a great advantage. dont expect gains as easily as he gets them. Expect to have to bust ure but 3x as hard as him and give it 3x as long to get the same results as him (though it may not take as long)
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Old 03-21-2006, 10:04 PM
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yeah, i always tell him that he could look at some weights and get big. It pretty much is the truth. He has not lifted in about 3 months and has not lost anything yet. I am going to give it my all though. I feel like I should go lift tommorrow again, but i guess I won't.
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I used to workout every day and saw really, really slow gains...Don't be scared to rest as it is equally as important for growth as lifting. I know it is hard to stay out of the gym. I have a serious lifting addiction myself (check my sig ) and I would love nothing more than to lift 4 hours a day 7 days a week, but it just doesn't work that way unfortunately.
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Old 03-22-2006, 08:27 AM
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I decided not to lift until tommorrow. I just am a little sore, also I played a basketball last night for about 2 hours and tore my feet all to pieces. I ahve blisters the size of half dollars. It really sucks and it would probably affect my lifting.
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