Tampabay's bulking journal - Page 9 - BodybuildingForYou

jlozan84 · #**161** (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by musclesntx

I never do that. I prefer to work a HUGE BACK MUSCLE that is responsible for PULLING with my back.

LOL - I meant to say they should be worked with Back. If you read the rest of it, you will see that I was criticizing him working them with shoulders in the first place.

My bad.........

tampabay3990 · #**162** (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by musclesntx

I never do that. I prefer to work a HUGE BACK MUSCLE that is responsible for PULLING with my back.

i think the traps can be done with the shoulders or the back...this is prolly the most debatable muscle when in comes to which day to work it on. i like doin traps with shoulders because when i hit rear delts i hit my traps and i kno i hit them on back day too indirectly but idk...i just like doin them with shoulders better.

tampabay3990 · #**163** (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 06:52 AM

thanks supr@. hows your bulking comin? im stayin full all day.

GetFit · #**164** (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 06:56 AM

You guys are no match for my 7 lb gain so far.

tampabay3990 · #**165** (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GetFit

You guys are no match for my 7 lb gain so far.

lol...and how much of that do you think is muscle? its only been a week and you have gained 7 lbs...sorry but only a small fraction of that is muscle if any...plus ive seen your diet youve posted...its sh!tty

GetFit · #**166** (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tampabay3990

lol...and how much of that do you think is muscle? its only been a week and you have gained 7 lbs...sorry but only a small fraction of that is muscle if any...plus ive seen your diet youve posted...its sh!tty

Don't hate man. You'll see the results soon enough. I had pork/beef ribs with beans yesterday. Ummm. Enjoy your bulk!

tampabay3990 · #**167** (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GetFit

Don't hate man. You'll see the results soon enough. I had pork/beef ribs with beans yesterday. Ummm. Enjoy your bulk!

i drank some hateorade this mornin..artic blast flavor. good luck. hope your bulk works out for you.

GetFit · #**168** (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tampabay3990

i drank some hateorade this mornin..artic blast flavor. good luck. hope your bulk works out for you.

Haha thanks. Should we do updates after a month or something? What do you think about that. Maybe just one picture that is the same as one of the others you posted.

tampabay3990 · #**169** (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GetFit

Haha thanks. Should we do updates after a month or something? What do you think about that. Maybe just one picture that is the same as one of the others you posted.

uh...idk. i was thinkin about it and i would prolly like to wait till atleast halfway even if we did it at all. because if we wait till the end we will REALLY see differences...thats up to the others too though

tampabay3990 · #**170** (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 08:23 AM

bout to go hit some chest and tri's...ill post up later.

jerseymuscle71 · #**171** (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tampabay3990

i drank some hateorade this mornin..artic blast flavor. good luck. hope your bulk works out for you.

hateorade, lol. Try the propel with fruit flavors. I just recently started drinking and won't leave the house without them.

I have been checking out your journal. You have some pretty solid and strong lifts for your age. Great job!

jlozan84 · #**172** (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tampabay3990

i think the traps can be done with the shoulders or the back...this is prolly the most debatable muscle when in comes to which day to work it on. i like doin traps with shoulders because when i hit rear delts i hit my traps and i kno i hit them on back day too indirectly but idk...i just like doin them with shoulders better.

That right there is the problem man. You Don't Know. Boyd does know. I know. My advice to you would be to take advice that is given to you by people that have been training for a long time.

Or you could just continue on with your sh*tty split and watching every calorie worrying about gaining an ounce of fat. In the meantime, you won't win the bulk contest and your gains will be no where near optimal.

Your decision though.

Supr@ · #**173** (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 10:12 AM

yup i agree.. traps should be done on back days.. i mean the trap is a part of your back ain't it

tampabay3990 · #**174** (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jlozan84

That right there is the problem man. You Don't Know. Boyd does know. I know. My advice to you would be to take advice that is given to you by people that have been training for a long time.

Or you could just continue on with your sh*tty split and watching every calorie worrying about gaining an ounce of fat. In the meantime, you won't win the bulk contest and your gains will be no where near optimal.

Your decision though.

you didnt have to be such an ass about it dude...i dont think i have a sh!tty split and i dont worry bout every calorie. i dont know what made you say that. i eat healthy but im not crazy bout it. and i DO KNOW that you work your traps working your back AND your shoulders. i do take the advice you and boyd give me. i know you guys know what your talking about but working traps on my shoulder day doesnt make my split ****ty and isnt goin to lose me the bulking competition. i might change the day i do traps. i dont know. thanks for the advice

tampabay3990 · #**175** (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Supr@

yup i agree.. traps should be done on back days.. i mean the trap is a part of your back ain't it

they are a part of your back...but they also connect to your shoulders so arent they apart of you shoulders too??

dannyboy9 · #**176** (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jerseymuscle71

hateorade, lol. Try the propel with fruit flavors. I just recently started drinking and won't leave the house without them.

Propel is hilarious LOL. Marketing + rip off. Just like Vitamin Water.

All it is is some B vitamins mixed with flavored water plus you don't even know if you're absorbing half the stuff in there. I provided the same rant on the "Chewing Gum" thread but oh well...

musclesntx · #**177** (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tampabay3990

i think the traps can be done with the shoulders or the back...this is prolly the most debatable muscle when in comes to which day to work it on. i like doin traps with shoulders because when i hit rear delts i hit my traps and i kno i hit them on back day too indirectly but idk...i just like doin them with shoulders better.

Anything can be done with anything, it really doesn't matter. But I prefer to hit my rear delts on days I pull. They get a significant amount of action on these days anyway.

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Originally Posted by GetFit

You guys are no match for my 7 lb gain so far.

Drink 2 gallons of water and go take a sh!t. You're bloated son.

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Originally Posted by jlozan84

That right there is the problem man. You Don't Know. Boyd does know. I know. My advice to you would be to take advice that is given to you by people that have been training for a long time.

Or you could just continue on with your sh*tty split and watching every calorie worrying about gaining an ounce of fat. In the meantime, you won't win the bulk contest and your gains will be no where near optimal.

Your decision though.

LOL - that's the bottom line, cuz J LO SAID SO!

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Originally Posted by Supr@

yup i agree.. traps should be done on back days.. i mean the trap is a part of your back ain't it

Holla.

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Originally Posted by tampabay3990

you didnt have to be such an ass about it dude...i dont think i have a sh!tty split and i dont worry bout every calorie. i dont know what made you say that. i eat healthy but im not crazy bout it. and i DO KNOW that you work your traps working your back AND your shoulders. i do take the advice you and boyd give me. i know you guys know what your talking about but working traps on my shoulder day doesnt make my split ****ty and isnt goin to lose me the bulking competition. i might change the day i do traps. i dont know. thanks for the advice

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Originally Posted by tampabay3990

they are a part of your back...but they also connect to your shoulders so arent they apart of you shoulders too??

JLo is a hardcore b!tch, don't make him go to Tampa cuz he will and he'll make you learn to get big on soup and mashed potatoes when he slaps your teeth down your throat! whoooo!

Seriously though, that logic (the traps connect to your shoulders) is like saying the biceps connect to the shoulder. Yeah, of course they do but I believe more in movements than in training individual bp's. With that being said, the traps are a pulling muscle (as well as the rear delts).

But I will follow up on ONE thing that JLo says that I agree and it was about you watching every calorie:

I don't have a problem with that although I think I have a more effective strategy that pretty much anyone could use for any goal. I DO have a problem with people who spend way too much time on that and stupid splits when they don't focus on what needs to be focused on - lifting heavy ass weights.

Like I always say, the problem usually isn't eating too much or working out too hard. It's usually under-recovery, undereating, not training hard enough, etc, etc.

tampabay3990 · #**178** (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by musclesntx

Anything can be done with anything, it really doesn't matter. But I prefer to hit my rear delts on days I pull. They get a significant amount of action on these days anyway.

Drink 2 gallons of water and go take a sh!t. You're bloated son.

LOL - that's the bottom line, cuz J LO SAID SO!

Holla.

JLo is a hardcore b!tch, don't make him go to Tampa cuz he will and he'll make you learn to get big on soup and mashed potatoes when he slaps your teeth down your throat! whoooo!

Seriously though, that logic (the traps connect to your shoulders) is like saying the biceps connect to the shoulder. Yeah, of course they do but I believe more in movements than in training individual bp's. With that being said, the traps are a pulling muscle (as well as the rear delts).

But I will follow up on ONE thing that JLo says that I agree and it was about you watching every calorie:

I don't have a problem with that although I think I have a more effective strategy that pretty much anyone could use for any goal. I DO have a problem with people who spend way too much ti