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Old 01-31-2010, 06:38 PM
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PLEASE!! ADVISE IS WELCOME!!! YOUR KNOWLEDGE IS A GIFT TO ME

1/31/10....Starting a new workout...3 day split..with the help of some members here.

Stats as of now... 5'10'' 19 yrs old...155lbs...

1/31/10...BACK/BI'S

Deadlift
3x8 95lbs (warmup)
1x8 135lbs
1x5 155lbs
1x5 185lbs

Cable Rows
3x8 120lbs

Wide pullups
3xfailure

Shrugs
4x8 55lb DB's

DB Alt. Curls
3x8 35lbs

Forearms
3x15 BB 65 lbs

Next workout Tuesday..Bench day with a little shoulders/tri's

Hope this works out!

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Old 01-31-2010, 07:03 PM
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Bench day i plan...

Bench
3x8 (warmup)
3x4-10 going up in lbs every set.

Incline DB press
3x8

Seated DB or BB press??
3x6-8

(Tricep Workout??) suggestions?

ABS
3x25 hanging leg raises (every training day) or no?

SQUAT Day..

Squat
3x8 (Warmup)
3x4-10 up lbs every set...(3 sets? 5 sets?)

SLDL??
(I really need some advise on what else to do..in another post i cant seem to fin any of those exersises?!
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Hey bro,
I threw some advice your way in red, see below



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1/31/10...BACK/BI'S

Deadlift
3x8 95lbs (warmup)
1x8 135lbs
1x5 155lbs
1x5 185lbs

* ADD IN MORE SETS OF DEADLIFTING (5-7 TOTAL SETS)


Cable Rows
3x8 120lbs

* DROP THE CABLE ROWS FOR REGULAR BARBELL ROWS.
USE THE CABLES AS AN ALTERNATE EVERY NOW AND THEN, AND STICK TO THE FREEWEIGHTS FOR THE MASS BUILDERS. ALSO ADD IN MORE SETS, 5-6 TOTAL.. A GOOD ONE WOULD BE 3 SETS OF BB AND 3 SETS OF DB



Wide pullups
3xfailure

* I'D ALTERNATE ROWS WITH PULL UPS EACH WORKOUT. ONLY DO ONE, BUT ADD MORE SETS, THEN ALTERNATE THE NEXT WORKOUT WITH THE OTHER.



Shrugs
4x8 55lb DB's

* IF DOING DEAD'S, NO NEED FOR SHRUGS, DROP THEM.
IF YOU WANT BIGGER TRAPS, TRADE THESE SETS FOR MORE DEADLIFTING SETS.



DB Alt. Curls
3x8 35lbs

* ALOT OF PEOPLE HERE WILL TELL YOU THAT YOU NEED VERY LITTLE BICEP AND TRICEP EXERCISES. I DONT ALWAYS AGREE.
FOR YOU, I'D THROW IN A COUPLE MORE SETS OF CURLS. BARBELL CURLS ARE THE FIRST CHOICE....NO MORE THAN 6-8 SETS TOTAL. 3 BB AND 3 DB



Forearms
3x15 BB 65 lbs

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Hey bro,
I threw some advice your way in red, see below
Good advice from Tommy,drop the forearms also,deadlifts will sort your forearms.
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Thanks alot for the guidance! it helps alot!

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Your welcome,we are all here to help each other.
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Good advice from Tommy,drop the forearms also,deadlifts will sort your forearms.
I was going to say that too
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OK and some advice on your Chest/Shoulder/Tri day

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Bench day i plan...

Bench
3x8 (warmup)
3x4-10 going up in lbs every set.

* You are blowing your load on all those warm up sets....
And 8 reps is hardly a warm up bro, thats too much tension to start off. Warm up on the bike or treadmill for 5 mins, then one light set of 10 reps, but choose a weight that you could get 20 reps with, then get right on to the good stuff.

Choose below instead

Flat Bench
1 x warm up set
4-5 sets x 4-10 reps


Incline DB press
3x8

* Do 2-3 sets, depending on if you did 4 or 5 sets of flat

Seated DB or BB press??
3x6-8

Both, alternate DB one workout, BB the next, or a similiar pattern, etc...I'd also throw in 2-3 side lateral raises to hit your medial delts

(Tricep Workout??) suggestions?

* Close grip bench press x 3-5 sets

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And your squat day

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SQUAT Day..

Squats
3x8 (Warmup)
3x4-10 up lbs every set...(3 sets? 5 sets?)

Again, too many warm up sets. Stick to 1-2 at most, use a weight you can rep 20 with but only do 10. Then on to the good stuff

I'd do the following

Squats x 5 sets
Front Squats x 3-5 sets
Calve Raise x 5 sets
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And call it a day
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Thanks BiggerGuns,

Its always nice to have people lookin out and givin good advice!

Ill be keepin track of this in here and ill post up some before and after shot sand see where it gets me!

Thanks again!

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Good, look forward to it.

You got it all covered bro

* Goals = Check
* Plan of action = Check
* Motivation = Check
* Decent routine = Check
* Desire to progress = Check
* Support = Check (BB4U)

All you need now is

* Consistency = Still in progress

This is perhaps the biggest of all
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Tell me about it..my workouts change too constantly..but i WILL stick with this one.. its got everything covered as to what i wanna do too..
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Good, look forward to it.

You got it all covered bro

* Goals = Check
* Plan of action = Check
* Motivation = Check
* Decent routine = Check
* Desire to progress = Check
* Support = Check (BB4U)

All you need now is

* Consistency = Still in progress

This is perhaps the biggest of all
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Tell me about it..my workouts change too constantly..but i WILL stick with this one.. its got everything covered as to what i wanna do too..
No i didnt mean it like that bro, you should actually change up your workout ever 2-3 workouts, or of the like, just to stay fresh, so change reps, sequence or exercises, but stay to same routine

No I mean consistency as in no missed or skipped workouts and then letting months go by, thats how you get progress

good luck Ethan
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Gotcha,

No worries then, I rarely miss a workout day.

Thanks!

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No i didnt mean it like that bro, you should actually change up your workout ever 2-3 workouts, or of the like, just to stay fresh, so change reps, sequence or exercises, but stay to same routine

No I mean consistency as in no missed or skipped workouts and then letting months go by, thats how you get progress

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And your squat day
you wouldn't suggest he throw in some SLDL's?
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I'd start off with hypers with focusing on using the full posterior chain (especially the glutes and hams) then move on to SLDL
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2/2/10.....BENCH day...

Bench
warmup 95lbs x10
5x6-7.....3x155...2x165

Incline DB bench
3x8 50lbs

BB press
3x8 85lbs

Side Lat Raises DB
3x8 20lbs

Close BB Bench
3x8 95lbs

Overall i feel good.. alittle confused though...

theres a personal trainer there that has been training pple for over 30yrs i suppose thought this new workout is crap...says at my age 3on1off3on is the best and one day recovery a week is sufficient for my age...idk..im really confused...he also said Deadlifting should not rule out trap and forarm excersizes....Also Benching does not really work shoulders enough to rule out shoulder excersizes the day before(as i was doing) Ah...idk idk.. we'll see in time...just need some motivation! i always seems like a lost deer!

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2/2/10.....BENCH day...

Bench
warmup 95lbs x10
5x6-7.....3x155...2x165

Incline DB bench
3x8 50lbs

BB press
3x8 85lbs

Side Lat Raises DB
3x8 20lbs

Close BB Bench
3x8 95lbs

Overall i feel good.. alittle confused though...

theres a personal trainer there that has been training pple for over 30yrs i suppose thought this new workout is crap...says at my age 3on1off3on is the best and one day recovery a week is sufficient for my age...idk..im really confused...he also said Deadlifting should not rule out trap and forarm excersizes....Also Benching does not really work shoulders enough to rule out shoulder excersizes the day before(as i was doing) Ah...idk idk.. we'll see in time...just need some motivation! i always seems like a lost deer!
he recommended you do 3 days on and 1 day off? hmmm... so basically this guys is telling you that you should be lifting 6 days a week?

did he also try to get you to hire him for training sessions 6 days a week? not a bad way for him to boost up his income there... assuming he gets paid per hour or per training session, lol

you really don't need to do trap and forearm isolation exercises... I see younger skinnier guys in the gym all the time doing tons of isolation work... and they don't get bigger, it's all about the compound lifts

and are you saying the guy recommended you to do shoulder exercises the day BEFORE benching... wow... I hope not... that's TERRIBLE advice if he told you to do that

not to discredit a guy who's been training people for over 30 years... but it sounds like he doesn't know what he's talking about
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haha..he helped me with my prior workout with no cost...and yes..back/shoulders....chest/arms....legs..off....repeat...it seemed too demanding and i wouldnt recover fast enough and wasnt a good feeling..he said i must not have been consuming enough protein... maybe not..but i have been eating like a horse!! so i dont think thats it..
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never ever train your chest the day after training shoulders... I did it a long time ago and suffered an injury because of it

if you felt like you weren't recovering enough before I'd stick with the advice the guys on here gave

personally, I wouldn't consider lifting 6 days a week
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