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Old 05-04-2007, 04:03 AM
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Yes, Nickelback would be appropriate for such a situation. Lol.


You know, the owner of fitness freaks might show up that weekend cause he lives close by. That dude supposedly has an 1800lb total. You might actually have some competition.
Right now, I'm a 1600lber - I've never hit the 1700lb mark.
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Right now, I'm a 1600lber - I've never hit the 1700lb mark.

Only a 1600 lber????

Lets not get too greedy, thats an amazing accomplishment there Boyd!
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Only a 1600 lber????

Lets not get too greedy, thats an amazing accomplishment there Boyd!
LOL - I honestly don't even care. I like being strong, but I don't obsess over the total. I'd like to bench 500lbs in the next year or so, but right now, looking good is a bit more important.
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I'd like to bench 500lbs in the next year or so, but right now, looking good is a bit more important.
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LOL - I honestly don't even care. I like being strong, but I don't obsess over the total. I'd like to bench 500lbs in the next year or so, but right now, looking good is a bit more important.
benching 500 might a quicker option for you, not sure how long it will take you to "look good".
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benching 500 might a quicker option for you, not sure how long it will take you to "look good".
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I was trying to think of a way to help you look better, and I've found it. I'm going to keep an axe at the gym to chop your f*cking head off.
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I was trying to think of a way to help you look better, and I've found it. I'm going to keep an axe at the gym to chop your f*cking head off.
my tight ass is my best feature anyway, along with my giant arms.
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my tight ass is my best feature anyway, along with my giant arms.
Isnt that backwards? Because you told me that your best features were your "giant ass and tight arms"

Which is it bud? I need to know because I am an ass man
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Mod - delete the last 4 threads out of this thread.

Guys stop cluttering my f*cking log...
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Most people that are obsessed with fitness know a few numbers: they know how much they can bench press (or have an idea). They know their weight. They know their body fat percentage within a few points. Guys can tell you the circumference of their arms while most ladies can tell you the size of their waists. People watch their cholesterol levels, blood pressure, and pulse rates - but how many people know their Carotenoid and Antioxidant Scores?

I think one of the biggest mistakes people make is their lack of micronutrient support. Ladies and gentlemen, there are more things to worry about than grams of protein, carbs, and fats (and I realize many don't pay attention to all 3). I've written about the Limited Amino Effect which basically means that if any of the amino acids are not present in the body, it is nearly impossible for the body to be in a positive nitrogen balance. There is a similar situation with minerals and other micronutrients - if the body is deficient in JUST ONE micronutrient, there is absolutely no way the body can work optimally.

Different situations bring up different demands on different nutrients, and if there is a lack of a particular vitamin or mineral in the body, the body has to borrow from somewhere else to make due (kind of a rob Peter to pay Paul type scenario). It isn't just as simple as eating plenty of foods and hoping you're right. You could very well be eating an insane quality of every possible nutrient, yet, if they aren't absorbing, it will mean absolutely nothing.

Unfortunately, too many people believe that consumption of the necessary nutrients is the most important thing. Go to any vitamin or mineral store in the US. Aside from the staff being relatively uneducated about macro or micronutrition, you're going to be led to believe by the manufacturers that the product with the most ingredients is definitely the best. I'll admit - I felt the exact same way a long time ago. However, with a multivitamin, more isn't always better. IF the molecule binds with other molecules, the nutrients can become "log-jammed" and more than likely, will not be absorbed. Same thing with proteins - gross grams of protein consumed do NOT mean that you're actually getting everything you need.

Unfortunately, there are few ways to tell if your product is working. Before, you just had to assume it was and through positive thinking, I think most of us have done this. I was basically convinced my multis were working, so when I volunteered to be tested in front of a room full of people a couple of months ago, you can imagine that when my numbers came back just a bit lower than an obese smoker's, how shocked I was... Here is me that spends well more than $200 per month in vitamins and minerals ALONE (that doesn't count fatty acids, aminos, protein, etc) and have been for several years, only to find out that although I bought the best products out there (according to documentation and reputation) they weren't working.

My point is this: don't believe the hype created by most supplement companies and magazines. You have NO idea if your multi is absorbing - whether it is a pill, liquid or whatever. You just do not know. If you can find someone that has a scanner like I have, get tested. They shouldn't charge you, and if they do have a charge, let me know and I can probably get it dropped. If you're interested, LET ME KNOW and I'LL PERSONALLY FIND ONE IN YOUR AREA that you can use. Of course, they aren't everywhere, but if there is one, I can find it.

The amount of antioxidants in your body are directly relational to how long you'll live - they also play a great role in your body's ability to recover from a workout, injury or sickness, and also play a role in muscle gain and fat loss (if one of the other nutrients are limited because of the lack of antioxidants, it can definitely have a domino effect).

So, if I can help you out, I will!

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I'm entertaining the thought of going to Vegas with a client for the weekend (private jet) and watching the fight/gambling, but I have a few minutes to make up my mind, and I'm leaning toward REST.

Alright, I dabbled in this a few weeks ago, but it has been on my mind and I thought I'd take the time to actually write about this. I see so many threads here about "Go over my routine and tell me what you think" and usually, I'm just so disgusted that I decide not to even offer my help. I think that most people could blindly eliminate 80% of the filler sh!t they are doing and they'd be just as well off as they are now.

Gaining muscle is not about individually stimulating the muscles in the body and making them burn. The pump, DOMS, "feeling the exercise" etc have nothing to do with hypertrophy. For whatever reason, people have determined that greater muscle gains can be made by absolutely annhilating muscles. I get sick about hearing bb'ing v. pl'ing conversations. That's just f'n ridiculous. I've often said that every other elite athlete on this planet is capable of making net muscle gains of over 30lbs in a single year, yet bb'ers act as if 5-10lbs net is amazing progress.

The magazines have filled everyone's heads with the idea that the latest bb'ing workout is the way to go, when the biggest guys in every gym are usually the strongest. You can almost bet your ass they didn't get that way doing endless amounts of drop sets and isolation exercises...

If you gave me two identical clones (and kept them steroid free), and told me that I have to make one of them bigger than the other one in one year, and I can have the one that gets to be trained by the 5 best powerlifters of all time or the 20 best bodybuilders and bodybuilding minds, 99 out of 100 times I'm going to send my guy to powerlifting camp. Gaining muscle is about recruiting as many muscle fibers as possible, and that is what PL'ing and Weightlifting is all about. Nothing about feeling the burn or the pump...

Without further chatter, I'm going to give the exercises that I think everyone needs to be doing to gain muscle mass. I'm ignoring accessory work here - we all understand that you're only as strong as your weakest link and GHRs and such SHOULD be done. Now I'm sure some bb'ing advocate will jump on that, but accessory work isn't endless amounts of bicep curls and tricep rope work...

1. Deadlift
-Few exercises recruit as many individual muscle fibers as the deadlift, and if you have a weakness, this exercise exposes it like no other. I put this one ahead of squatting for the simple reason that it is the most elementary of any lift. You pick sh!t up off of the ground. It doesn't get any more basic. Strong upper back/traps? Check. Lower Back? Check. Quads? Hams? Hips? Glutes? Check. Check. Check. Check. Check...

2. Squats
-There are so many training protocols for the natural manipulation of natural hormones, and nearly every one of them involve squatting in some way or form. There's a reason - the weight is ON TOP OF YOU, so everything must be in tune and ready to rock. I'm not talking about those sissy 1/2 squats or knee bends. I mean ass to the grass.

If you tell me your goal is to gain muscle mass and you aren't squatting and deadlifting, I'm calling you a liar.

3. Bench Press
-The most glamorous exercise of all time, as it is probably the best indicator of upper body strength (definitely pushing). Although form can carry a long way, nothing can substitute brute strength. All of the cable and db flies in the world won't mean anything if you don't start pushing heavy ass weight. Want big arms? THIS is the most important exercise - the triceps are 2/3 of the upper arm, and nothing makes them blow like this. There are 1019 variations - do all of them for overall development.

The best of the rest...

Now, I'm not keeping these in any specific order from here on out. These are just exercises that I believe you SHOULD be doing.

Bent BB Rows
-This one barely missed the cut from above, and if not for deads, it would've been there. This is kind of like the bench press for the back, IMO. A lot of muscles come into play for this. It's basic - you and the weight. That core had better be strong if you're going to pull some weight here. This is a MUST for a thick back...

Stiff-Leg Deadlifts
-THIS happens to be my favorite exercise. I don't know how many times I've had clients come in the day after SLDL and tell me that their TRAPS are sore. It's just one of those things - not only are the hams under durress, but you had better have a grip and plenty of posterior core to get strong here.

Push Press/Standing Military Press
-Want Abs? Do this. If they're weak, you'll know. Smokes the shoulders and the triceps, and again, a very elementary move - you're pushing weight over your head... I can feel the entire deltoid burning right now.

Leg Press
-This one was tough for me to include, but due to the sheer amount of weight you can do on this exercise, I couldn't leave it out in good faith. Not only a great quad exercise, it slams the hams, hips and glutes when you do it right (bury those knees in the chest). Most guys like that 2" of movement they do, but they're also walking around on legs that look like they rode an ostrich to the gym.

Pullups (or at least a type of pulldown)
-Another back exercise. BIG MUSCLE GROUPS = MORE MUSCLE FIBERS RECRUITED = MORE OVERALL GROWTH. I thought about letting this slip to the list below, but if you want width, these need to be involved.

Other Exercises You Cannot Afford To Ignore...

For whatever reason, there are a few exercises that I have left off of the above list. Some or due to the proper training/technique that must be learned. Don't get me wrong, they HAVE their place and if you don't ever do them, you need to be. Take the time to learn them and watch your physique change for the better.

-The Olympic Lifts (snatch, cleans, jerks)
-Hanging Cleans
-Heavy Lunges
-Zercher Squats
-Other Squat Variations (hacks etc)
-Any Posterior Core Work (GHR, Good AMs, etc)

Everyone has their favorite exercises and often, there is a time and a place for many of them. However, if you're looking to gain muscle mass AND EVENTUALLY BE MISTAKEN FOR SOMEONE WHO IS A WEIGHTLIFTER and not some skinny dude at the pool, you need to be doing the aforementioned lifts. It's time to stop looking for reasons to NOT bust your ass.

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Excellent posts Boyd. Your contributions are highly appreciated
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And my ass gets repped once in a blue moon, while half of these ass clowns copy and paste other people's sh!t and get repped like hell!!! lol I seriously don't give a damn.

I went to crush golf balls and then it started lightning, so that lasted like 2 minutes.

My son had his stitches taken out, came in my house and 3 minutes later fell the EXACT SAME WAY IN THE EXACT SAME PLACE, but this time he narrowly missed the corner of the wall and hit the wall straight on. Just a bruise by his stitch scar. Amazing. I'm going to put a helmet on him.

Anyway, today was a light leg day, and the last day of this ridiculous deloading. Nah, I needed it and I actually felt so incredibly rejuvenated today so that's what it's about. I do legs with one of my clients - he has a lighter day during the week and Saturday is usually his crucifixion, so I had to kind of tailor my workout around him. I would've foregone squats today, but he had to do them, so I did them light.

Squats, hams touched the calves on EVERY SINGLE REP
135x20
185x20
225x20
275x20x3

The AIR SUCKED. Even for a light load day, it wasn't easy because I didn't rest between sets. MAYBE 2 minutes between the heaviest sets, but the first 3 were done on < 1min rest.

Pull-Thrus
150x20x5

Very light rest. My bud doesn't like these because his lower back is weak, but that's the reason for the enslaught.

Walking Lunges - DB
20 steps w/75lb dbs x 5 sets

That sh!t was pretty intense, I have to admit (after the pull throughs and 20 rep squats). I'd normally go with 100s, but the 75s did the trick today.

DB Squats (kind of like a Plie Squat) SS w/90 Degree Hypers
100x25 / hold 25lbsx20 x 4 rounds

Teardrop area of my quad looked as if it were going to explode

Leg Press Calves (just regular cadence) SS w/RC Situps w/25lbs
360 x 20 / 25x25 x 4 rounds

Not sure what regular cadence is, but this is a pretty slow negative, controlled concentric with slight holds at top and bottom. I have a client that just tore his Achille's playing volleyball, so the thought of my Achille's ripping didn't make me want to go very intense here today. lol I have great calves anyway, so these were all for my client.

Still went about 80 minutes, which I would've cut it to 40 if I didn't have someone with me.

This next week is going to be back to brutally heavy... Can't wait.
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